It is funny. I have no doubt that every Celeb that had died i bleive it. But after having seen the pics and heard the aurguments, dead or not, that wasnt Elvis in that box.Originally Posted by Tony Trout
It is funny. I have no doubt that every Celeb that had died i bleive it. But after having seen the pics and heard the aurguments, dead or not, that wasnt Elvis in that box.
Renowned Death Hag
Its Elvis in the coffin. Sure it's hard to look at but its him. It's a deep shame he died so young, had so much more to give and I miss him loads x
Renowned Death Hag
I think it's tough for us to believe it's him because of how he looked...and how "young" he seemed to look. He certainly does not look like a 42 year old man lying there.
Can you direct me to the pictures you've seen? There wasn't more than one actual photo taken that day. Although...take a look at this photo...I read somewhere that this photo is actually the one taken by Billy Mann, Sr. on the night of August 17, 1977 before the Enquirer "did their tricks" and lightened the picture. You can definitely tell that the picture is darker than the one I first posted (the board won't allow me to post it again...why?)
So my question is...
Which one is the real photo??
"Dance like no one is watching. Sing like no one is listening. Love like you've never been hurt and live like it's Heaven on Earth" - Mark Twain
He looks really young and thin in that photo yet at the end he looked old and bloated.
Renowned Death Hag
That looks like the real photo! Wow, I've saved that photo! I've got the other lighter verson but this one has to be the real photo! Thanks for posting it
I saw him 6 months before he died, and I'm sorry, but he was no longer young, thin, or unaged.
What I see in the picture is what he wished he had looked like.
I'm jealous. Where'd you see him??
He came to Atlanta for a concert. It was terrible. He forgot the words, and had to read them. He got down on the stage and couldn't get up. People Booed, and walked out. Some demanded their money back. I just cried, because my hero was no longer. So for them to make me think that suddenly he has lost 200 lbs, and looks 30 years younger, is impossible for me to believe.
So what do you guys think about Lisa Marie being pregnant? I say good for her!! 40 is the new 30!
Hot dame is she preggers again? Good for her!So what do you guys think about Lisa Marie being pregnant? I say good for her!! 40 is the new 30!
Her mother Priscilla had her second child at 40 or 42.
Renowned Death Hag
Tony - I will never, ever, ever believe that's Elvis in that casket. Elvis is still alive! *stamps foot* Yes! Yes! Yes! I have made up my mind and don't care to be confused with the facts thankyouverymuch!
Spooky - I love your avatar! And I had no idea James Dean was born before Elvis. Ya learned me something today.
For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans 8:38-39
My mom read in a book written by a psychic that when the psychic visited Graceland, said that Elvis's body wasn't buried there. Kinda strange, maybe the lady's a fraud. I dunno
Elvis used to wear gurdles under his jumpsuits so he was actually a lot bigger than a 34 waist
Man, that is sad to hear. Do you remember how long it was before he died after you saw him?? It had to be near the end...
I believe it was in February or March of 1977. Several months before he died.
Renowned Death Hag
The girdle "rumor" is something I don't believe because if that was so, it would have shown under his jumpsuit.
Elvis played Atlanta, GA for the final time on December 30, 1976.
"Dance like no one is watching. Sing like no one is listening. Love like you've never been hurt and live like it's Heaven on Earth" - Mark Twain
It is actually true. You can see interviews with not only others talking about it, but him laughing about that was what his life I become.
Renowned Death Hag
The girdle thing I believe, but the 34 waist? Not a chance. The costumes that you are speaking of are also available for viewing at Graceland and they are "taken in" to look better on display. I love E with all my heart and soul, but he had the body of a 42 year old man, which he should have. He was no health freak and his body was being abused. I get upset when people talk bad about him gaining weight and being big & nasty because as most of us know, thats what happens when you don't take care of yourself. Heck in some cases even when you do take care of yourself gravity and age takes it's toll regardless. =( I'm 35 and I fo' sho don't have the body I had when I was 25 even though my lifestyle hasn't changed.E was getting older, it gets way harder with time, trust me. I still woulda licked his eyeballs out, no matter what his waistline was!
My Posse's On Broadway
I think you just contradicted yourself. I disagree with your first point- that EP "had the body of a 42 yr old man, which he should have," I could see if he had a pot belly and some extra flab-- but in those last couple of years he was grotesquely bloated and obese- at least at certain times. But I agree with your second point; as a matter of fact, not only didn't he "take care of himself", but he abused himself with prescriptions and massive quantities of junk food.
I loved Elvis to death, but the truth was he was huge. He was also a drug addict.
Elvis was no different than anything that is going on today, IMO. People gorge themselves on shit food and take large quantaties of prescription and OTC meds. We have overweight people in their late 30's and early 40's on our ME table every morning that are the epitome of what Elvis was.
In 1977, it was not cool. Today, it's accepted. JMO.
Renowned Death Hag
Nope - not contratdicting - I was jsut stating the facts. He was 42 years old. Everyone "expected" Elvis to look 21 forever. Besides the drugs and the nasty eating habits, he was not a 21 year old hip shaking pimp anymore, he was a 42 year old middle aged man living a hard lifestyle. My point was to bring to light that everyone ages and your body changes. Even if he wasn't doing drugs and eating better, her would have still not been what people wanted in their minds....
Renowned Death Hag
I agree with the part about licking his eyeballs out...The girdle thing I believe, but the 34 waist? Not a chance. The costumes that you are speaking of are also available for viewing at Graceland and they are "taken in" to look better on display. I love E with all my heart and soul, but he had the body of a 42 year old man, which he should have. He was no health freak and his body was being abused. I get upset when people talk bad about him gaining weight and being big & nasty because as most of us know, thats what happens when you don't take care of yourself. Heck in some cases even when you do take care of yourself gravity and age takes it's toll regardless. =( I'm 35 and I fo' sho don't have the body I had when I was 25 even though my lifestyle hasn't changed.
For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans 8:38-39
Renowned Death Hag
I had to delete this post.
Sorry about that.
I just thought it was amusing, that's all.
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Not so good example of photo shop.
I tend to believe most of his weight gain was actually extreme water retention. Judy Garland suffered the same thing due to her drug abuse and had 20 quarts of liquid siphoned off her.
They both had that same bloated looked about them - it's different to the overweight look - the face and upper body swell up but the limbs stay relatively slim.
that might explain why he looked slim in the coffin - those liquids oozed out after death.
Ok Katie, sorry for posting.
I'm deleting them now.
Sort of OT, but still kind of related. Priscilla Presley is going to be on the new season of Dancing with the Stars. I am going to watch just to check out her terribly thin hair and bad plastic surgery!
You know besides the money part I am sure being the daughter of Elvis was alot of pressure growing up. She seems to handle it well...except when she married Micheal "peophile" Jackson!
Elvis Lives !!!!
Renowned Death Hag
OMG!! She looks like that Wildestein Cat Lady!! Terrible! Her left side of her face is bigger than her right! What was she thinking? She could have got a nip here & a tuck there if she wanted, but still grow "gracefully" with her own face. Now she can't move her mouth or close her eyes! She did dance pretty good though... It just makes me sad that she is so plastic looking when she woulda been beautiful anyway you know. Now it's kinda like her ex-son-in-law - too late....
OMG!! She looks like that Wildestein Cat Lady!! Terrible! Her left side of her face is bigger than her right! What was she thinking? She could have got a nip here & a tuck there if she wanted, but still grow "gracefully" with her own face. Now she can't move her mouth or close her eyes! She did dance pretty good though... It just makes me sad that she is so plastic looking when she woulda been beautiful anyway you know. Now it's kinda like her ex-son-in-law - too late....
She does look pretty bad, but I thought she danced pretty awesome for it being the first night!
in an earlier post..someone stated that at his biggest elvis had a 34 inch waist..theres no way that could be possible..my husband is 6'3..and 165 -170 pds..very thin...and wears a 32 waist pants..we've seen the pics of elvis at his biggest....theres no way possible at his biggest this man was a 34 waist..lol yikes...i dont even think laying down on a bed could get those pants zipped lol...
I saw him in person, several months before his death, and his neck was bigger than a 34.
She went too far with the surgery. Priscilla was a beautiful woman and truely, she is not even that old. Sad that she felt she had to have that much surgery.OMG!! She looks like that Wildestein Cat Lady!! Terrible! Her left side of her face is bigger than her right! What was she thinking? She could have got a nip here & a tuck there if she wanted, but still grow "gracefully" with her own face. Now she can't move her mouth or close her eyes! She did dance pretty good though... It just makes me sad that she is so plastic looking when she woulda been beautiful anyway you know. Now it's kinda like her ex-son-in-law - too late....
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I saw his home in tupelo in 1967. It was not the place it is now. It just had a sign that EP lived there. I saw GL before he died (from outside) and after he died too. I love that house and I am glad they are leaving his rooms the way they were.
They had to get rid of all the drugs. I am sure they "cleaned house" I read once that a doctor came over first and declared him dead and then they wen to work getting rid of all the stuff. I am sure they thought they could cover up the drug use but what the hell he was human, he was addicted to prescription drugs , he wasn't rolling up dollar bills and snorting.
Now look at the pictures of he and GA. elvis did not look bloated or old and these were done 4 months before he died.
I understood that the contract Lisa Marie has with themis the upstairs is off limits and has to be left alone? I also do not think Grace Land smelled or stunk. I am sure that his private rooms are cleaned on a regular basis but his things are not moved or tossed out. But the house did not stink.
I whole heartedly disagree about Priss. He never had sex with her after Lisa was born. He had a thing about women having sex after becoming a Mother. She turned Ep estate around and I think if ep had been faithful to her they would have stayed together. She loved him, I also do not believe she was a tramp before she met Elvis. Lisa Marie got every cent of her inheritance. In fact if it weren't for Priss firing and suing the Colonel she would have gotten a hell of a lot less. The court papers on this law suit are available. Priss said the Colonel was using Elvis for years and he got 50 percent of every thing Elvis made! She got tired of being the bitch that left Elvis and wrote her side of the story. No one asks to get raped and if Elvis was that pissed about her wanting a divorce and cheating with Mike Stone maybe he did. I see no reason for her to lie and make her kid feel bad. You didn't sleep in their bed and neither did I .but I am sticking up for the womant hat made his kid the money that she has today. People hate her because she had the balls to get out of an unhappy marriage,if you can even call it that .with the Mafia hanging around 24/7 and people runing in and out of that place all night and day long. I loved EP ,but as far as his marriage went there was shit on both sides. She just stood up for herself and I would have too.
I actually have always liked Priscilla. I do not believe her to have been a whore, but I do believe her to have been manipulating even at the young age when she met Elvis. For years there was the rumor that Priscilla slept with one or more men to get to meet Elvis when she was 14. I believe that rumor.
I think she left Elvis because the lifestyle was no longer working for her, they did not have a marriage anymore and she had the money and her daughter to start a new life in Cali, which is what she did. She opened a boutique and went on with her life. She and E stayed friends until the end and that just goes to show that they were probably better off as friends. I believe that they loved each other, but it was a different kind of love.
I think it is wonderful what she did for Lisa to secure her future, however Elvis is rolling over in the grave to see that Lisa is a Scientologist.
Fried banana and peanut butter samwiches lol And I love em too
Renowned Death Hag
ROTFLMAO - I love the King, but dang that was funny! Poor Guy!!
Renowned Death Hag
There's finally a reason behind why Priscilla looks so bad:
Priscilla Presley Victim Of Cosmetic Scam
Priscilla, whose face looks ... strange on "Dancing with the Stars," went to Dr. Daniel Serrano around 2003. Serrano was a good-looking doc from Argentina who hooked into Hollywood's social A-list and started giving them what he claimed were miracle injections that worked better than Botox.
In fact, Serrano was injecting industrial, low-grade silicone similar to what's used to lubricate auto parts in Argentina into the faces of these women. Several women, including Shawn King, Larry's wife, and Diane Richie, Lionel's wife at the time, held injection parties in their homes, with Serrano needling them with the non-FDA approved drug that he had smuggled in to the U.S. He charged between $300 and $500 a pop.
But wait, it gets worse. Serrano wasn't even a licensed doc in the U.S. The injections caused lumps, paralysis and holes in the faces of some of the women (and some men) he injected.
Serrano, who was nicknamed Dr. Jiffy Lube, was indicted by the Feds for smuggling drugs, and the conspiracy and use of unapproved drugs. He was convicted, and last week he was released and is currently being investigated by federal immigration officials and could be deported.
BTW, Diane Richie was also indicted as an accomplice. She pled out and was placed on probation.
As for Priscilla -- who had no idea she was being injected with silicone -- we're told she's undergoing corrective work.
"Dance like no one is watching. Sing like no one is listening. Love like you've never been hurt and live like it's Heaven on Earth" - Mark Twain
Renowned Death Hag
Nova, Lisa and everyone else - I live in Tupelo - as a matter of fact, my Mom lived behind the Presleys (their back yards joined. Mom is a lot younger than E, but her older sister remembers him well. When you take you tour, y'all can come on down and stay with me. I live on the opposite end of town from the Birthplace...but it's a small town.
BTW - it hasn't really been publicized yet, but they just moved his church over to the Birthplace Park. They are restoring it to what it was and will have it opened up in a year or so. Tupelo Hardware (the store Elvis bought his first guitar in) also does Elvis tours.
I am a HUGE Elvis fan, but can you believe that I've never been to the Birthplace, Graceland, or the Tupelo Hardware tour (I've been there, but have never taken the tour)? And I live in the same city! I really need to get out more.
And I was the one that was talking about his jumpsuit being a size 34 waist. I'm just telling you what the sign said - I didn't measure it. The reason I remember it is that it jumped out at me the same as you. But then I thought, maybe TV does add a ton of weight. Remind me never to go on TV...
For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans 8:38-39
Elvis-Upstairs photos of Graceland
Here is a link for pictures of the upstairs of Graceland. Has some awesome pictures of the bathroom. I think they are authentic. Thought Scott might like them if he checks out this post. Love FAD. I'm totally addicted. Keep up the good work.
http://www.linkydinky.com/graceland/
Renowned Death Hag
Thanks and welcome, but we already have a HUGE Elvis thread with that link in there.
Someone like to merge?
Thanks Aries. New to the site. I didn't know something had already been posted. I just got on a roll looking for Elvis stuff today and came across it.
Thanks
I have a couple of things to add. 1) my cousin's husband owns a plumbing company here and they have the Graceland account. They have done lots of work in "the bathroom" (nothing earth shattering, I know, just info) When the last of Elvis' horses died, they dug the grave with their backhoe.
2) I work with a guy who is retired from memphis City Police and was the first officer on the scene when elvis was found. He assures me Elvis is really dead.
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