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  1. #201
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam View Post
    I'm going to eat some lunch, and then go see if I can find Oswald's grave and take a picture. I printed three sets of directions off the internet.
    Wish me luck!
    Good luck Sam - Looking forward to your pics!

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    Post 'em when you get back!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissVondaKaye View Post
    The author, Gerald Blaine, is not the "Guilt-Ridden Ex-Agent" - that would be Clint Hill.
    My bad. As the case recedes in time, the cast of characters keeps growing ("I was the waitress for the Secret Service detail at Jack Ruby's strip club the night before the assassination and I haven't told everything I know!") and 48 years of disinfo has been stirred in with whatever the truth is, it gets more difficult to juggle all the people centrally and peripherally involved.

    Quote Originally Posted by MissVondaKaye View Post
    I think there was planning and conspiracy and I think it all leads back to Lyndon Johnson.
    Definitely. He was part of the coverup after the assassination and certainly had reasons (along with about a half-dozen other groups) to want Kennedy dead: LBJ found out through a White House staffer who roomed with one of Kennedy's many girlfriends that JFK was going to replace him as vice pres in the second term. The girlfriend's name? Mary Jo Kopechne, whose body would end up in Ted Kennedy's car at the bottom of a river off Chappaquiddick 6 years later.

    Quote Originally Posted by MissVondaKaye View Post
    I just chaps my ass that the Warren Commission sealed the key records until 2039. I don't want to wait 28 damned more years!!
    Government commissions and administrations do that: whitewash the case for John Q. Public, then seal the incriminating revelations until long after the conspirators are all dead and beyond the reach of the law.

    Luckily with the dawn of the internet we don't have to wait a generation or two to find out that we've been lied to yet again by our government. It's no wonder Washington wants a "kill switch" for the world wide web!

  4. #204
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    Well. it was further away from Fort Worth than I thought, but thank God for GPS!
    I can't believe this old man figured out how to use my iPhone and my new computer, but I did.
    I was wondering around using a photo from the internet as a reference. I used the masoleum in the photo as a reference point didn't look like the same in the front, but when I saw it in the rear view mirror I knew where to start looking for the flat stone.
    Believe it or not, there were two ladies there and an employee from the cemetary actually told them where it was. (Which is a NO NO, but I think he wanted to hit on them.) I was about 30 feet away, and I walked over to them and struck up a conversation. We may have a couple of new members to FAD. They were VERY nice, and VERY interested in FAD.
    It's in the upper 70's today, so it was very nice. I've intended to do this since I moved to Fort Worth in 1998. Glad I finally did!
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  5. #205
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam View Post
    Well. it was further away from Fort Worth than I thought, but thank God for GPS!
    I can't believe this old man figured out how to use my iPhone and my new computer, but I did.
    I was wondering around using a photo from the internet as a reference. The masoleum in the photo as a reference point didn't look like the same in the front, but when I saw it in the rear view mirror I knew where to start looking for the flat stone.
    Believe it or not, there were two ladies there and an employee from the cemetary actually told them where it was. I was about 30 feet away, and I walked over to them and struck up a conversation. We may have a couple of new mwembers to FAD. They were VERY nice and VERY interested in FAD.
    It's in the upper 70's today, so it was very nice. I've intended to do this since I moved to Fort Worth in 1998.

    Good job, Sam! Nice pics/sticker

  6. #206
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    Scott sent me the "Death Hag" sticker when I allowed him to use my photo taken in 1979 of the "Sharon Tate House" for "The Six Dergrees Of Helter Skelter". This is the first time I've used it. I didn't remember until I started to put it away that he actually signed the back of it.
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  7. #207
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chevyheaven View Post
    he doesnt look well.
    You know why? Because he's DEAD!

  8. #208
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    Quote Originally Posted by morticom View Post
    Hi everyone,

    I dug up this conspiracy photo which may actually show Oswald standing in a doorway watching the president driving by before any shots took place.

    The person standing in the doorway bears a striking resemblance to Oswald.

    Could it really be him.

    Tel me what you all think! Eerie!
    Whoa! This story will never die! It will always have legs due to all the players that potentially could have been involved! I love Oliver Stone's JFK because it throws almost dizzying information at the viewer and either makes one think how outrageous the possible "players" were, or that there could actually BE something to the angles of the mafia, Cubans, Johnson henchmen, CIA FBI and various "lone nuts!"

  9. #209
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    Quote Originally Posted by **Jenna** View Post
    Bruce Willis reminds me of Lee Harvey Oswald.

    Don't people always compare the two? And doesn't Brad Pitt remind one of Sirhan Sirhan?

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    Good going Sam!
    I told my lawyer he's better step it up or we would both end up on an episode of "SNAPPED"

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    Thanks for the pics!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kahuna View Post
    You know why? Because he's DEAD!

    Bwahahahahahahaha! Sorry, I about fell out of my chair on that one!

  13. #213
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    Those stitches on Oswald look terrible. I hope they make mine look better!

  14. #214
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    You'll only have those if you have an autopsy. Do you plan on needing one? LOL It's called the big "Y" and unless you plan on having an open casket naked viewing, no one would see it anyway. *wink*

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    Some of you may not have read June (Oswald) Porter's 1995 interview and might find it of interest_____Interesting perspective from the Assassins Daughter.____________________________________
    LEE HARVEY'S OLDEST
    JUNE OSWALD

    By Steve Salerno

    As America's obsession with her father goes on, a daughter tries to set the record straight. From The New York Times Magazine April 30, 1995.


    MORE THAN 30 YEARS AFTER the Kennedy assassination, Lee Harvey Oswald is a name that will not go away. One of the latest authors to wade into the conspiracy waters is Norman Mailer, whose book "Oswald's Tale: An American Mystery" will be published next month. The assassination has also been a constant in the life of June Oswald Porter, the 33-year-old daughter of Lee Harvey Oswald. In her early years, grocery shopping with her mother, Marina, and sister, Rachel, took place amid stares and finger-pointing; hushed conversations ignited around them like flash fires as they walked the supermarket aisles.

    Because Marina Oswald realized that she and her children could become the focus of attention at any time, she made sure June and Rachel were always neatly dressed - no matter how small the chore, and despite the fact that the family was often financially strapped. "She never knew when we'd run into someone, and she didn't want us to look like poor white trash"' June says simply. Upon entering public school, June took the surname of her stepfather, Kenneth Porter, who married Marina in 1965.

    But anonymity exacted a curious price of its own, as June faced myriad graceless references to her father, mother and family. Even an intended compliment could hold hidden barbs - as when a male co-worker remarked on June's resemblance to "a young Marina Oswald," then immediately apologized, saying he "didn't mean to insult her" by invoking the infamous name. Nonetheless, during several interviews over the past she reports being content. And she recalls her childhood as a "pretty happy" time, thanks in large part to her stepfather. June is quieter about her own marriage, which ended in 1992. She remains protective of her privacy, distancing herself and her sons, ages 6 and 3, from the overall clique of assassination cultists who have dogged the Oswald women - Marina, now 53, June, and Rachel, 31 - ever since the events of Nov. 22, 1963. (June has requested that her married name, which she still uses in business, not be printed)

    Despite privacy concerns, she's pushing for the release of all records pertaining to the assassination. "We have to get the Government to move before it's too late."

    Q: What are your thoughts on Norman Mailer's new book?

    A: I don't have a comment on it as far as its conclusions because I haven't read them, but I did start the book. Mailer is such a great writer; I was just so enthralled. The first chapter opens with my family, and he goes way back to my great-grandmother in Russia.

    This is material I never would have known about insofar as my mother's side of the family, because my mother was illegitimate, you know. It's a little bit like opening a family album you didn't know existed before. I can tell you that I am very excited about the book in concept. I believe he's the first writer-researcher to get interviews with sources in the Russian Government and so this is an opportunity to shed new light on the subject from an area that has never been explored in any meaningful depth.

    Q: To what extent have you followed the various conspiracy theories?

    A: It's only in recent years that I've started to get into all that, mostly as part trying to get the records released. There was a bill passed at the end of the Bush Administration that required all Government agencies to review their files for any information related to the assassination and to release it - unless they felt there were matters of national security or a couple of other issues. The law said that if they felt that way, then those documents needed to be turned over to the Assassination Records Review Board and those folks would review the records and either concur, release them in blacked out state or release them entirely.

    Q: Over the years, you've kept a pretty low profile. Why have you started to speak out?

    A: Well, there was a lot of misinformation being released related to a book, "Case Closed," by Gerald Posner. And they got my mother on television in a live interview - she still doesn't have a good grasp of the language - and they were asking her specific questions about this book. She hadn't read it. I felt they manipulated her and made her look foolish. I had already written a we got to President Clinton to try to make sure he would appoint this review board from the Bush legislation to review assassination records, and to release those records. I was really supportive.

    Since I hadn't gotten a response, I toyed with the idea that I might have to go public. When my mother came on and this interview went so badly, I decided I really wanted to rebut.

    Q: I guess you must be encouraged that the review board was finally sworn in last year.

    A: Yes, I'm also very excited about that. They first met last April in Washington. And there have been public hearings there and in Dallas and Boston.

    Q: What is the status of your present-day identity? It sounds as if most people are not aware you're Lee Oswald's daughter.

    A: Yes and no. Now, Mom does articles that she doesn't bother to tell me she's doing, and sometimes my name comes up. We always used my stepfather's name, Porter, growing up, even though we were never legally adopted. My secretary in my last job put two and two together based on one of those articles. She copied it and put it on all my staff's desks. I didn't really want to be the center of gossip in this whole building. So I called my staff in, a group of 10 or so, and I said: "Yes, that is me in the article. Obviously, if I'd wanted to share that I would have told everyone a long time ago. I don't think it's relevant to anything we do here and I appreciate you keeping it to yourself." My biggest concern was that people at the office had my home address and phone number and I didn't want it leaked to The National Enquirer I have two small children, I'm divorced, I didn't want people to harass the kids.

    Q: Give me an example of what you'd consider harassment

    A: When I was pregnant with my first, some lady got my phone number and called in the middle of the night. And she said, "June Oswald?" That catches you off guard when you just wake up. And I said, "Yes?" And she said: "I'm so and so, and I just want you to know that I've written a song about you - and your child. And I'm gonna be in Dallas, and I want to sing it to you."

    I said I appreciate it, but I really don't get involved in that. You try to be nice because you don't want to make somebody upset who's going to seek you out if they're kooky enough to do that stuff anyway. There's always been this little group that's followed us - Mom, Rachel and me-and calls us and is fascinated by anything surrounding us. My first serious boyfriend -that's what he was fascinated about. He tracked me down. He said things when we were together like he really wanted to have children because "that would be the blood of Lee Harvey Oswald that was flowing through the kids."

    So he moved to Boston and wanted me to join him. I move all the way up there, and his parents wouldn't even let us stay in his house because I was the daughter of Lee Harvey Oswald. They said it would depreciate the value of their home. Then I find out he's been doing some quote-unquote assassination research. So I ended up supporting him. Anyway, the only person I knew up there was Priscilla Johnson McMillan, who wrote my mother's book. We stayed with her for the summer.

    My boyfriend would sneak down to Priscilla's basement and read all her old files. He sold an article for an astronomical amount back then - I think it was $25,000. The way I finally woke up was, one night he said, "I'm gonna sell an article to Penthouse or Playboy"- I forget which - "and it's about your mother. I'm convinced that your mother and Priscilla had a sexual relationship." So I said, O.K, this is it. Just get out.

    Q: Tell me about growing up in the aftermath of the assassination. I know you were just a toddler, but do you have any recollections of turbulence in the household?

    A: I don't have any real memories of those ages. I know some people can remember vividly like it was yesterday, but I don't do that - even about yesterday.
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    Part Two:

    I do remember that our phones were tapped. We always had this really bad connection, and when you'd pick up the phone you'd hear that other click. This was before wiretapping got more sophisticated. For all I know it's still tapped.

    Mom was always overprotective of us. We didn't use the Oswald name, and it didn't come, up a lot around the house except when reporters would call It was always a big deal in November, when it was very stressful in the house. Mom would smoke all the time. Reporters came over and she would tell us, "shhhh, go in the other room"

    Q: When were you actually told about your father and the assassination?

    A: Something had come up where Mom had old boxes of letters out. People sent us money following the assassination, because Mom was young with two small children and didn't speak the language. Somehow those boxes came down and she was reading, and I guess she felt it was time to tell us. She sat us down, with my stepbrother, and started to explain who our father was- that it wasn't Kenneth - and who Lee was and what he had done. I just remember crying a lot because Mom was crying.

    Q: How old were you then?

    A: It would have been, like, first grade. And then, they tell a story about how after that I stood up in front of the whole class and said, "My father shot the President." Just out of the blue. But I don't remember that.

    The next memory I actually have is in second grade. We were studying the Presidents. The Presidents were all around the walls in the rooms. And we got to President Kennedy and I was told to go across the hall during that one. So I sat across the hall in a time-out room.

    Q: How did you feel about being singled out?

    A: I remember what I did during that time-out was, I plotted how I could run for class president and win! So l never connected it as a big negative or anything.

    Rachel felt differently. She his always felt really bogged down by it. She didn't feel like Kenneth was her dad. She wanted to know Lee; she wants lee to be a saint. Well, I was satisfied with my dad, so I've never felt this big need to connect with Lee or do the daughter-father thing.

    Q: One can't help but notice that you address him as "Lee."

    A: I've always called him that. My father is Kenneth Porter, the man I grew up with, the man who was there for my mother and Rachel and me.

    Q: And if someone were to show scientifically that Lee Oswald was or wasn't involved, that wouldn't make a difference to you?

    A: I would make a difference in the sense of justice being served. If the truth can be found that shows Lee had nothing to do with the assassination, I would feel better in that there have been a lot of things said and done regarding my family that all proceeded from an erroneous perception of what he did or didn't do. But you have to understand that, aside from what role he had in the assassination, there's the issue of what role he had in our family. I know that in my life, Lee wasn't a good man. He wasn't much of a husband, he wasn't much of a father. He beat my mother. There were times when we didn't have milk to drink. We lived in poor housing or were taken in by others. So if I'm able to be detached or seem cold and unemotional about it, it's because I look at Lee in those terms.

    Q: I assume you've seen the footage of Lee being shot by Jack Ruby. Are you able to maintain the same detachment when you see that?

    A: The first time l saw it l was very upset, but it gets to the point where it almost becomes unreal, this movie you're watching that has very little to do with you as a person. Mostly I feel bad that Lee was never able to tell his story. He tried to after the arrest but everybody discounted it. I would have liked for him to have his day in court.

    Q: Where do you stand today as far as your perception of what really happened out there in Dealey Plaza?

    A: I've never publicly said one way or the other for sure. There are a lot of assassination buffs who have analyzed all the technical data and the other available material and even they don't agree about what happened.

    Q: But are you comfortable with the fact that Lee Oswald played at least some role?

    A: I think there definitely is circumstantial evidence that could imply he had something to do with it because of the characters he was hanging out with in New Orleans. But you know, just because you're hanging out with a weird group - they could have set him up, and he could have had no idea what was going on that day.

    Q: Did you ever take the so-called assassination tour?

    A: Not until recently. I went on a car trip up to the house I had lived in with Lee, Lee's boarding house, another house Mom had lived in with Lee that's still standing, the path of the motorcade, where the bullets hit.

    Q: How did you feel about that?

    A: It was – unusual. I didn't break down and cry or anything. It was just kind of eerie.

    Q: I'm sure there must have been a lot of unusual incidents as you were growing up.

    A: I remember Rachel's seventh grade dance. So this little boy she was going with, his parents were going to come get her and they were going to go to the dance.

    Well, we're all waiting and a car pulls up in the driveway, and Mom rushes out to greet these parents, and they happen to be a man and a woman, and they've got a camera and she says, "Oh, you're gonna take pictures! Great!" And she's just welcoming them with open arms. And they say: "Oh, we can take pictures? Oh great!" Another car pulls up - and that's the parents and the little boy. The first car was The National Enquirer. But it was so funny because Mom talked to them for - I mean, nobody noticed that the date wasn't there! During college, Rachel supported herself at the Texas Chili Parlor in Austin. It's right across from the Capitol, and she was a waitress. Well, there's a travel guide she found out about that actually listed the Texas Chilli Parlor and said the daughter of Lee Harvey Oswald worked there. So she became a sort of tourist attraction.

    Q: Your childhood doesn't sound like it was easy.

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    Part 3:

    A: Mom kept us together. She was pretty strong. I don't know if I could've done it and kept my sanity: two small children, don't speak the language, dirt poor, everybody in the country pointing their finger at you -hating you in some cases. I'm a strong woman, but I don't know if I could've kept myself together. But she did. She kept herself together for us.

    Q: Was any of this an issue in your marriage?

    A: No. My husband couldn't have cared less. But I still have problems in that area, because I date a lot. I always feel torn by whether I'm required to tell somebody about my history. I usually end up telling people that I'm seeing very often. And I'll tell you why: It could come up at any minute.

    Q: Did you see the "Seinfeld" episode in which they're at the ballpark, and they get spat upon, and-

    A: The "second spirter," right. It was hilarious.

    Q: If someone was to ask you today who your father is, what would you say? Whom do you really think of as dad?

    A: Kenneth. Now, the word father does mean Lee to me, But dad is Dad. And you know, it's not Lee's fault he got killed by Jack Ruby. I don't blame him for not being here for me. I do blame him for having beat my mother, and not being a good father or a good provider. Because some people have called me and said, "I knew your father and he really loved you." I have to admit that when I heard that he used to play with me all the time, that was a nice feeling. I try to hold that in the back of my head.

    Q: Do you worry about telling your children as they grow up?

    A: I do. I started worrying about, first of all, do I have a responsibility to tell them? What do I tell them? And I realize that I'm kind of cold about it, so how do I tell them? Do I need to be more compassionate' about it? I want to make sure they understand why I'm so matter-of-fact about it. But see, I'm matter-of-fact about a lot in my life.

    The other thing is, you just worry genealogically: Lee was illegitimate, and so was my mother. I've wondered what my kids are going to turn out like. Are they going to take after some ancestor we don't even know? There's a lot of genetic things you can't even control that are inborn in your kids.

    Q: How are things between you and your mom these days?

    A: The last two years have been very stressful, because she started doing things that she hasn't let us know about, then all of a sudden I hear about it or see it on TV. Like she did a movie and it involved me and Rachel, and she didn't tell us first. l think her physical health and mental health have been damaged in recent years over all of the pressures put on her.

    Q: After all this time?

    A: Part of it was the big anniversary, the 30th. There were a lot of things leading up to that that they wanted Mom to do, and Mom in recent years has gotten more and more involved, I guess because she's getting older and trying to rectify some of the things she may have done unintentionally - like stating publicly that Lee did it. I've never seen her act like that, like she needed to become more of a crusader, and it's taking its toll.

    Q: On your relationship with her as well?

    A: It has put certain strain on it. Mom accused me one day of being ashamed of who I was. I don't think that's true. It's not a matter of being ashamed, it's a matter of wanting to be judged as June Oswald and not "the daughter of Lee Harvey Oswald."

    Q: Do you and Rachel argue much about this?

    A: Yes. Just in recent years; but yes. We are very close - except when these kinds of things come up. See, this is the difference. We visited the set of "JFK" when it was going on, and somebody said, "Your father was a hero." Well, that's what Rachel wants to believe. Rachel loved listening to that. She got all caught up, because she wants so badly to have this identification with her father.

    That didn't set well with me. If they could prove somehow that he was innocent, he'd still not be a hero, he'd be a martyr. I have to remind Rachel that this is the man who beat our mother, who didn't provide for his children. I tell her, "Rachel, for all we know, we could have been living in the streets." Because that's mostly what I think of when I think of Lee. As for what his exact role in the assassination was - well, he'll have to be judged for that before God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ima Sikfuk View Post
    I don't know why I post this, I suppose my screen name says it all. From the cover of a documentary on "fair Use" that I own, I give you - Lee & The Assassins

    Marvellous mock up that!

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    Last edited by johnny; 10-08-2011 at 11:53 AM.
    Delusion. Life's Best Coping Mechanism
    Check out Floyd's new Band:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHYA5iAAJg8

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    and if you have some more time, another extended pbs program on lee harvey oswald.
    who was lee harvey oswald.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nor67AKBF-U

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ih9KnpAl3OY&NR=1


    Last edited by johnny; 10-08-2011 at 11:57 AM.
    Delusion. Life's Best Coping Mechanism
    Check out Floyd's new Band:
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    Quote Originally Posted by morticom View Post
    Hi Everyone,

    Here are a couple of more pics of Lee Harvey Oswald.

    It shows his decomposed head and a close of his teeth after he was exhumed in the 80's.

    MMMMMMM give me a kiss!
    Oh man. Those pics are awesome! I have never seen them before.

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    Probably the most extensive website regarding film clips, video clips, etc etc around on the web.

    now this is a lone gunman website bias but even a conspiracy minded person will appreciate the depth of resources that are available.
    for example, he has the abc, nbc, and cbs first assassination coverage.
    trust me, you'll spend days on this site just looking at the variety of rare or hard to find clips.

    http://davidvonpein.blogspot.com/
    Delusion. Life's Best Coping Mechanism
    Check out Floyd's new Band:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHYA5iAAJg8

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    I don't think that the photos are filled with gore. There wasn't any blood that I could see. The autopsy pics were of an autopsy and the casket photos were of decomp. It didn't bother me at all.

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    Thanks for the link Johnny! Love this stuff!
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    I couldn't decide the best place to put this, but decided on this thread:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/11/us...tombstone.html

    I had always thought the original stone was lost to the ages, then my bro-in-law was telling me about this. Very interesting stuff this guy has! Too bad it's all the way up in Illinois.

    All of this came to mind while working/hoping to get us Texas Hags together - Dallas might be a good place.

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    Wow! --- Such great pictures, and neat links in this thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sam View Post
    Well. it was further away from Fort Worth than I thought, but thank God for GPS!
    I can't believe this old man figured out how to use my iPhone and my new computer, but I did.
    I was wondering around using a photo from the internet as a reference. I used the masoleum in the photo as a reference point didn't look like the same in the front, but when I saw it in the rear view mirror I knew where to start looking for the flat stone.
    Believe it or not, there were two ladies there and an employee from the cemetary actually told them where it was. (Which is a NO NO, but I think he wanted to hit on them.) I was about 30 feet away, and I walked over to them and struck up a conversation. We may have a couple of new members to FAD. They were VERY nice, and VERY interested in FAD.
    It's in the upper 70's today, so it was very nice. I've intended to do this since I moved to Fort Worth in 1998. Glad I finally did!
    I had no idea that he had an actual grave marker. I assumed he was in a unmarked grave. --- If I ever make it to Texas, I definitely want to see this in person...

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    They're tearing down the apartment complex that Lee Harvey Oswald used to live in. I'm going to find it and take pictures. It's abandoned so maybe I can get in.

    Lee Harvey Oswald's Apartment Building Is Coming Down, Dallas Declares


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    How'd I miss this thread?

    Read through each page and saw each photo, but was left with one minor, dumb question...

    What's going on with LHO's left eye, along the eyelash line. In his mug shot and of course in the slab pics, it looks like he's wearing heavy eyeliner atop his eyelid that extends past the corner of his eye. It appears even darker and heavier in the autopsy photos.

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    In the videos that showed him being transferred it looked like he might have "resisted arrest" with his face a little. Maybe he still had a black eye or cut or something.
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    Lee Harvey Oswald was an utter failure and a joke. His family was living of the charity of the Paine family and the great marxist revolutionary Oswald was reduced to working in a school book depository. Oswald was so broke he didn't have the 35 cents he needed for admission to the movie theater he was trying to hide out in, causing his capture. Oswald tried to kill a right wing general the previous April and failed. When Oswald read that the leader of the largest capitalist country in the world would drive under his window at work, the perfect opportunity presented itself to Oswald By killing Kennedy, Oswald would be an American historical figure and he would strike a blow for marxism. Likewise loser gangster wanna be Ruby took advantage of his opportunity to raise his self esteem by shooting Oswald.

    Oswald received the bruises and cuts from the arresting officers while being arrested in the movie theater. When the cops closed in on Oswald he pointed his gun at them and attempted to fire. Oswald had minutes before murdered a cop. The bullets from the murdered cop came from Oswald's revolver. I think those cops arresting Oswald showed great restraint by not shooting him outright and taking him alive but they beat the shit out of him.

    Fifty years later we have a marxist president.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagnusDippytack View Post
    Lee Harvey Oswald was an utter failure and a joke. His family was living of the charity of the Paine family and the great marxist revolutionary Oswald was reduced to working in a school book depository. Oswald was so broke he didn't have the 35 cents he needed for admission to the movie theater he was trying to hide out in, causing his capture. Oswald tried to kill a right wing general the previous April and failed. When Oswald read that the leader of the largest capitalist country in the world would drive under his window at work, the perfect opportunity presented itself to Oswald By killing Kennedy, Oswald would be an American historical figure and he would strike a blow for marxism. Likewise loser gangster wanna be Ruby took advantage of his opportunity to raise his self esteem by shooting Oswald.

    Oswald received the bruises and cuts from the arresting officers while being arrested in the movie theater. When the cops closed in on Oswald he pointed his gun at them and attempted to fire. Oswald had minutes before murdered a cop. The bullets from the murdered cop came from Oswald's revolver. I think those cops arresting Oswald showed great restraint by not shooting him outright and taking him alive but they beat the shit out of him.

    Fifty years later we have a marxist president.
    Glad someone else see's it the same way I do! Unless anyone can come up with some irrefutable ironclad evidence, I'll always believe LHO was the lone gunman. Funny how conspiracy theorists forget the murder of officer Tippit. It's even harder to believe that some regular day Joe could bring down the leader of the free world, but it happened.
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    The rooming house where LHO lived when JFK was assassinated is up for sale. Of course historians know the house is located in the Oak Cliff section of Dallas and has been owned by the family of Patricia Hall since 1942. Asking price is $500K.
    http://www.dallasnews.com/news/commu...for-500000.ece

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    Glad someone else see's it the same way I do! Unless anyone can come up with some irrefutable ironclad evidence, I'll always believe LHO was the lone gunman. . . .
    Yeah, it's kinda odd that in this day and age with all the resources available, many intelligent people still buy into the conspiracy theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bidmor View Post
    The rooming house where LHO lived when JFK was assassinated is up for sale. Of course historians know the house is located in the Oak Cliff section of Dallas and has been owned by the family of Patricia Hall since 1942. Asking price is $500K.
    http://www.dallasnews.com/news/commu...for-500000.ece
    That has got to be the only $500,000 piece of real estate in the history of Oak Cliff lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiraculousMandarin View Post
    That has got to be the only $500,000 piece of real estate in the history of Oak Cliff lol
    Ha! Yeah that's upscale for Oak Cliff.

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    Now you could own LHO's wedding ring! Going up for auction. On going thru the pix in the story, that baby looks just like her daddy!!!http://www.dallasnews.com/news/jfk50...tion-block.ece

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    Who killed the "Kennedys?",When after all it was U and me..........

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    I appreciate all of the info in this thread.

    I still think it was bigger than just Oswald; I choose to believe that the mob was involved; but that's just me.
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    can't wait to go to dallas later this year, unfortunately i wont be there in november and will miss out on the tour

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimC View Post
    I still think it was bigger than just Oswald; I choose to believe that the mob was involved; but that's just me.
    I would add that I believe the mob was involved but not the sole entity. The mob could not have arranged for Secret Service agents to be pulled away from walking with the limo and riding on the bumper and motorcycle cops flanking both rear quarter panels as was SOP then. Gross deviations of standard presidential parade security were designed and executed from people within federal agencies and/or military. Who told them to put together such a plan is another question.

    Removing agents from the limo bumper was the key to LHO getting the blame and leaving JFK out there like a sitting duck.

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    This is a recent photo, taken last week, of a house where Lee Harvey Oswald once lived while in New Orleans. 4907 Magazine Street, it was rented by Mr and Mrs Lee Harvey Oswald from May through September of 1963. They paid $65 a month. The house is in shambles but note the flag on the gate, and especially note the sketch picture on the transom over the door. It is a photo of JFK and Jackie.
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    No picture?

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    Mystery of grave marked "Nick Beef" next to LHO's solved:

    http://news.yahoo.com/mystery-texas-...164009755.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bidmor View Post
    Mystery of grave marked "Nick Beef" next to LHO's solved:

    http://news.yahoo.com/mystery-texas-...164009755.html
    I like this guy. He's definitely a hag.
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    LHO's wedding ring has been sold for $90,000...the ring he left in a china cup for Marina that morning.

    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/DC-Deco...-assassination

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    Marina Oswald today - she's not cute anymore

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...niversary.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by cash View Post
    Marina Oswald today - she's not cute anymore

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...niversary.html
    Well, I never thought of Marina as cute. Now, at 72, she resembles the typical Russian woman of her time.

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    I just watched this film/docudrama about Marina Oswald called "Fatal Deception: Mrs. Lee Harvey Oswald". It was surprisingly good. Helena Bonham Carter played Marina and Frank Whaley played Lee. It's on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J16UoWz3rdo

    If you have an hour or so to kill, check this out. It helps show Marina's side of everything and the hell she had been put through.

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