robert wagner has a new book out...there is a abc news video of him talking about natalies death...
think this link should work
http://buzz.yahoo.com/article/1:y_fe...aNdDZa0P8azJV4
robert wagner has a new book out...there is a abc news video of him talking about natalies death...
think this link should work
http://buzz.yahoo.com/article/1:y_fe...aNdDZa0P8azJV4
First post here.
I love your board and the fact that many of you know the older stars and their histories.
I remember when Natalie died, I heard it on a clock radio when I woke up that morning. I heard later that she died while trying to tie up a dinghy and I at first thought she was trying to leave the boat and go on the mainland, but knowing she wasn't dressed properly, this most likely was not the case. I too saw an interview with Wagner today and he speaks of her death.
Just about each time I look at a photo of her, I am drawn to her wrist. I had read her biography many years ago and I remember reading that it was because of an injury. I couldn't remember the exact circumstances so I just looked this up and the following was written by Gavin Lambert who wrote Inside Daisy Clover and adapted it for film and he and Natalie became life long friends. Interesting complete article on her:
http://www.arlindo-correia.com/141204.html
Some of what he wrote:
Maria (Natalie's Mother) would stop at nothing: during the making of a now-forgotten masterwork named The Green Promise, little Natalie was called on to cross a footbridge over turbulent waters. Lambert reports: "Maria knew that the footbridge was timed to collapse; and she agreed that Natalie mustn't be told, because it might frighten her." In the event, the bridge broke, the terrified Natalie nearly drowned and was left with a disfiguring wrist-injury which had to be concealed for the rest of her life.
Throughout the movie, Natalie Wood wears a bracelet on her left wrist, not for any esthetic reason, but because she had injured her wrist on the set of a previous movie, causing an unsightly bone protrusion on her wrist. She wore the bracelet to hide the injury.
After reading that she wore bracelets to hide this injury years ago, as I mentioned above, my eyes are sometimes drawn to her tiny wrist.
Also, I am terrified of water as I cannot swim, but I love vacationing at beach houses and the sound of the waves is the most relaxing thing I can think of.
I enjoy reading your posts and I am fastenated at research and information that you provide here.
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I haven't read through this whole thread, so I'm sorry if this has been mentioned. I just read an Ann Rule book "In The Name Of Love And Other True Cases Vol. 4", Well, this guy almost drowned in the exact same spot that Natalie Wood did. His wife said the sound of the ocean and waves were sooo loud, she couldn't hear him scream for help. He made it back on board by himself. I know that a lot of people think that Natalie's drowning wasn't an accident, but this makes sense.
Natalies mother was a real poop!
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she was scared of water \ the ocean right?
yup
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I think it was accidental drowning. she was drunk n it was late n stuff. but thats just m.o.
I don't think she was murdered either. I think they were all drunk, an argument ensued and she went off to bed. The men stayed up and drank some more. The dingy was bumping against the wall where her bed was so she couldn't sleep cuz of the noise and went out to tie the dingy up. Being drunk or tipsy, she lost her footing and fell in. The men who were elsewhere drinking didn't hear her and so she drowned. That's what I think.
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not that anyone asked for my opinion lol.
your opinion is just a valuable as everyone else's
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Originally Posted by beatlebaby4
your opinion is just a valuable as everyone else's
why thank you
I think you are right beatle..I think that it happened the way you said...
I loved Ms Wood, she was such a pretty lady...
I never knew that Robert Wagner was gay.
He sure was handsome.
Last edited by MoonRabbit; 03-15-2009 at 10:39 PM.
Who knows? It could have been that too?I don't think she was murdered either. I think they were all drunk, an argument ensued and she went off to bed. The men stayed up and drank some more. The dingy was bumping against the wall where her bed was so she couldn't sleep cuz of the noise and went out to tie the dingy up. Being drunk or tipsy, she lost her footing and fell in. The men who were elsewhere drinking didn't hear her and so she drowned. That's what I think.
I read that people in other boats heard a woman yelling for help.
Why no one helped her is beyond me?
Yes Beatle, I agree. Natalie was supposedly very emotional, got deeply angry in arguments....she was a diva, god love her. She probably huffed off, all tipsy and "eff them," etc, and ......well.....I don't think she was murdered either. I think they were all drunk, an argument ensued and she went off to bed. The men stayed up and drank some more. The dingy was bumping against the wall where her bed was so she couldn't sleep cuz of the noise and went out to tie the dingy up. Being drunk or tipsy, she lost her footing and fell in. The men who were elsewhere drinking didn't hear her and so she drowned. That's what I think.
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I always wondered if her death was truly an accident...probably wasYes Beatle, I agree. Natalie was supposedly very emotional, got deeply angry in arguments....she was a diva, god love her. She probably huffed off, all tipsy and "eff them," etc, and ......well.....
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Yes Beatle, I agree. Natalie was supposedly very emotional, got deeply angry in arguments....she was a diva, god love her. She probably huffed off, all tipsy and "eff them," etc, and ......well.....
Look, I loved NATALIE, but no question that she was quite the 'histrionic' !
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Just thought of something. In Lana's book, she mentions that Natalie was very big on turning her back on people who crossed her. Would just shut you out, a back in your face. That would fit the whole "storming off" scenario.
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Well weren't her last words to the two actors something to the effect of,
" RJ, I won't stand for this ! ! " (?)
(That is) when she allegedly stormed off, out of the 'salon' supposedly to head to the 'stateroom' she shared with RJ.
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Does anyone ever wonder what she would look like today if she hadn't died? She was so beautiful and even as she aged, her skin was always picture perfect. I think she would have been just as gorgeous at 70 even without plastic surgery!
Thanks for the great pics, Kelt.
I think she would have aged gracefully too. What a beautiful lady she was. One of my favorite movies was "Love With The Proper Stranger".Does anyone ever wonder what she would look like today if she hadn't died? She was so beautiful and even as she aged, her skin was always picture perfect. I think she would have been just as gorgeous at 70 even without plastic surgery!
Thanks for the great pics, Kelt.
Clip from the film: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQUFqEZBgbk
That would she have been now... 70?? It's a toss up of whether she would have aged gracefully. I heard she was "stuck on herself"... meaning to me she would have had plastic surgery just like everyone else to perserve her youth.
Def plastic surgery. Again, going by Lana's book, both girls were raised with utmost emphasis on being "beautiful, glamorous women."
Why am i able to quote Lana wood's book? that's just sad.
Not sad, Noelle. But sure death haggy!
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Had she lived she might well have looked like this once she was in her 80s . . . .
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i always wanted to pull off a Gypsy-like strip tease for my husband...but i really don't have the guts. i think it is hellasexy...when she is walking across the stage with her fur - "boom, bada boom, bada...".
FAN tastic.
hmm I am sure your husband would appreciate that...especially the "pull off"
Kinda what I would expect, 80 but still have the skin of a 60 yr old. Thanks, Kelt.Had she lived she might well have looked like this once she was in her 80s . . . .
I watched this film called Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice last night. It's dated but not bad. Natalie Wood was sweet. Great body, so pretty. I wish women still wore false eyelashes like back in those days. Hot.
Poor Drift
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Some women still do, they have just gotten more natural looking and not as easily detected as back then. I agree though, love the look of all those lashes. Makes a me feel sexy to wear them too.I watched this film called Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice last night. It's dated but not bad. Natalie Wood was sweet. Great body, so pretty. I wish women still wore false eyelashes like back in those days. Hot.
Not that I do it very often, takes a lot to put them on.
Wow... a very interesting thread, and as I was reading it I wondered why I hadn't heard much about the case... I just remember hearing she drowned accidentally, and that was that. Then I looked at the dates; she died on Nov. 29, 1981. My father died on Oct. 29, 1981, so I very much had other things on my mind besides reading the tabloids.
Does anyone know if her purse was found? I ask because no woman goes anyplace without her purse, and she'd have needed cash or credit cards if she really was intent on getting away from the boat. If her purse was still on the boat, along with the fact that she'd have been unlikely to embark on such a trip in her nightgown would tend to indicate she wasn't trying to go ashore. This of course still does not tell us if she fell, or was pushed in.
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An Article on her written by Robert Wagner
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...sappeared.html
Just read that article Wicked! I think the banging of the boat ??? against the side of the Splendor may have been annoying her and she went out to stop it and fell in! Theories abound!
I remember that theory back when she first died that the banding of the dinghy is what led her out there....
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The photograph included in the artuicle that is supposedly of WAGNER & WOOD from ALL THE FINE YOUNG CANNIBALS is not NATALIE WOOD. The woman shown is SUSAN KOHNER.
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Explains why she did not have her purse with her. I think she had just thrown a coat over her PJ's.
This is the theory that I have always liked best. And it makes the most sense in my opinion.
Maybe its just because I dont want to think Robert or Chris could ever hurt her lol. Actually I dont think they ever could have.
Im watching West Side Story as I type this lol. My BFF texted me to say it's on, and that she has always thought I look a lot like Natalie Wood (she has always told me this growing up together, I think she's crazy, but I love her) close enough to be her twin, I wish!!
Great thread... such a beautiful and complex woman...
She was great in West Side Story and also very beautiful. Her daughter Natasha Gregson Wagner is also a pretty good actress she has been in several movies and looks alot like her mom.
Natasha is beautiful as well. Man how time flies. It's hard to believe she is 38 years old now!
she looks a lot like her mother. beautiful.Natasha is beautiful as well. Man how time flies. It's hard to believe she is 38 years old now!
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Here's a clip of NATALIE as the 'Mystery Guest' on a spring 1966 episode of tv's
WHAT'S MY LINE........................?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tf1zlqp9PyU
She must've loved that dress because I've seen photographs of her wearing it on other occassions like the LONDON premiere of the film
FUNNY GIRL 2 years later in 1968. She had to have had the dress altered later too because on the clip above the dress is a good 2,3 inches longer than it was in the picture below from 1969 due to the fact that back in 1966 the women were still wearing the length to just at and just above the knee with the pointy toes stiletto pumps & yet a year or two later (circa '68,'69) those were long out of style with the hem-lengths being shorter and the low heeled square toed slipper styled pumps being the fashion.
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Great pic as always Kelt, thank you!
The man that was driving the Yacht for them (Skipper/Captain?)
said that the trio was drinking and taking drugs.
On shore they were partying up a storm in bars.
One night the skipper even slept on the hotel bed with Natalie.
She told him he must behave though. Natalie and him were only sleeping.
Quaaludes were one of the drugs he recalls Robert, Natalie, and
Christopher were taking.
When loaded they probably had an argument and Natalie wanted to
get away because she was angry.
Drinking and taking drugs might have made her natural fear of the water
subside.
I think she slipped into the water and the guys thought she was asleep.
I think it was a sad accident.
One of Natalie's idols was Vivien Leigh.Great thread... such a beautiful and complex woman...
Natalie was proud when she once tried on Vivien Leigh's
dress from "Streetcar Named Desire" and it fit
her perfectly!
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