lets not try to be know it all's on these posts. we're here for discussion and fun, not for one upsmanship. (btw i am sophia loren, but only on wednesdays)
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lets not try to be know it all's on these posts. we're here for discussion and fun, not for one upsmanship. (btw i am sophia loren, but only on wednesdays)
pull the string!
Not sure who that is directed to, but everyone can speak their opinion as they see it.Originally Posted by hell0kitty
Isn't that what we are doing? I thought everyone was having a discussion. Oops, guess I'm wrong again
Sometimes it's like that around here beatle. It usually doesn't last long.Isn't that what we are doing? I thought everyone was having a discussion. Oops, guess I'm wrong again
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last laff is on me!
pull the string!
Okay, thanksSometimes it's like that around here beatle. It usually doesn't last long.
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WAGNER has a reputation within Hollywood circles for being a discreet 'bi'.Like Cindy said, it is only one side of the story. I agree some things just don't add up. I don't know about any homosexual acts on RJ's part and I am not entirely sure I buy into that but I do believe something more happened that night that we man never know about. I remember when she died very clearly, she was one of my fav actresses and so beautiful. Such a shame.
There are some additional things that I know, but cannot go into detail about; you'll have to take my word for it. Do you honestly think that any leading male star would had such proclivities would be frank about it ?
Career suicide for one of the 'Leading Men' type actors. The women might be able to get away with that information become common knowledge (think ANGELINA JOLIE), but the same is not true for their male counterparts.
I don't think that he & WALKEN were doing anything sexual whatsoever.
I think that NATALIE WOOD'S drowning was an unfortunate accident and that WAGNER has been unfairly judged in regards to speculation about the circumstances of November 29, 1981.
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I did not know about his reputation, not that it matters. Yes of course it would be career suicide if something like that got out especially in those days (yes and today as well). I truly believe it was a tragic accident but the circumstances leading up to the accident have always seemed hushed to me. Just my opinion.
You have an amazing capacity to misinterpret everything you read.
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I work as a death investigator and have investigated many drownings. It is proven though that you can survive in cold water.
But that was not what I was getting at. What I was getting at is had she stayed sober or not gotten so drunk, there would not have been a need at least in her mind to get into a dingy in the dark.
You have an amazing capacity to misinterpret everything you read.
Ooops I think you are confused infact I am sure of it.
LOL SUnshine..I took up skydiving to get over my fear of heights (come on go with me) and you will not be afraid anymore..I know some great skydiving clubs in FL. .and I took up scuba because I was always afraid of the ocean..certifed diving instructor now although I gave diving up long time ago since I moved to Ca...too rough her at my age lol Anyway I thought that RJ got her some help with her fear of water and they got that boat. If she had that fer still, I don't think she would gotten on the boat much less in a dingy. I think she was over that.
heheh I could tell you a great story about diving at the Farlon Islands but it wouold give you nightmares LOL
Nov.....couldn't you have just told yourself, "don't be silly"?
Wow, you're the second person I've heard say that's the reason they tried sky diving.
Power to ya. all I can say is nevernevernevernevernevernever ad infinitum!
OMG Nov! Please tell me, wait no don't tell me, oh ok tell me. LOL LOL
OK NOV, I know the Farallons are one of the world's largest breeding grounds for great whites, so this story MUST BE TOLD !! Give it up, PLEASE !
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I've read about Wagner hearing Natalie calling for help and he was taunting her. People aboard a ship (small boat-OK, I don't know my nautical words) heard a man's voice laughing and saying, "We'll help you.... If I'm not mistaken, I think Wagner was making fun of her being afraid in the water.
I second that!
I was wondering the same thing.There is no mystery about SharonTate is there??
Natasha looks exactly like her.
If that's true he's probably never forgiven himself.
I almost didn't read this thread because I thought I had heard it all
on her death. I was wrong. I never heard the Walken/Wagner
link up. That's a tough one to buy, but it is Hollywood.
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Hes scary
Yeah, he plays scary really well!!
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What is this from?
This is an interesting shot where you can see how tiny she was,from left to right, Ingrid Bergman, Natalie,Jane Fonda, Diahann Carroll and Rosalind Russell*loves*
I cried for shoes .... til I met a man with no feet.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Great Picture!!!!!
Academy Awards - 1978?
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1968 AWARDS held in 1969 I believe.
Notice how FONDA'S sporting the marcel hairdo she wore in
THEY SHOOT HORSES DON'T THEY.....?
(Besides, ROZ RUSSELL on the right was gone by 1978.)
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Should I go find the gorgous photographs of him round Deer Hunter etc! He was quite sublime when young! IMOPHes scary
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I don't know how accurate the Vanity Fair article was, but yes, he probably would never be able to forgive himself. That would be a living hell to remember that every day.I second that!
I was wondering the same thing.
Natasha looks exactly like her.
If that's true he's probably never forgiven himself.
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Natasha looks exactly like her.
The older daughter isn't as pretty as NATALIE (was), but there's no question that she has a very strong resemblance to her late mother.
The other daughter, COURTNEY looks more like her father.
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Do you have any pics of Courtney today? I would love to see old family pics from the 70's, if anyone has them kicking around
The older daughter isn't as pretty as NATALIE (was), but there's no question that she has a very strong resemblance to her late mother.
The other daughter, COURTNEY looks more like her father.
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COURTNEY is third from the left in beige tube top with stupid looking scarf.
This photograph is about 5 years old.
L-R: WAGNER, 3rd wife (4th marriage) JILL ST.JOHN, COURTNEY & daughter KATIE (from his marriage to MARION MARSHALL)
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I think Courtney looks like a blonder version of Natalie, what is she doing at the moment?
Designing jewelry with this woman in LA. And didja know Courtney was named after the role Natalie played in the TV movie "The Affair" which she made with RJ while she was pregnant?
Here you go.....I would love to see old family pics from the 70's, if anyone has them kicking around
Thanks!!!
Yes I think she looks like a blonde Natalie too. Especially around the eyes and mouth!
This thread reminds me of an elderly relative of mine, now deceased himself....he had a New Yawk accent, always pronounced her name "Natly." It was he, one Thanksgiving, who mentioned he'd heard on the news that "Natly Wood drowned." So when I read her name, I always hear "Natly" in my head and think of him.
Funny, the associations we have.
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Yep. Stinky movie. NATALIE as a former 'Poster Child' for muscular dystrophy or something similiar. (And) of course the glass shattering in the hand scene............Based On A Real Life Event (of NAT').
What histrionics !
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Cold water going in there trying to resue someone, feeling like the water after 3/4 metres hitting them like a hammer on their head, Lisa please help!
If Courtney designs good jewellery she will succeed! I have an artist friend who was a painter who is suddenly designing jewellery and in all the social pages! Why should she not succeed! If her work is good and she is lucky like many to have contacts, thats the way it all works!
Strangely enough... She always had premonitions of drowning her ENTIRE life from early childhood, she was so afraid of water and never learned how to swim.
I love Chris Walken and I'm not saying anything but... I da know... SOMEBODY knows what happened that night and I REALLY DON'T buy that she was drunk, wandered off and drowned...I just don't! There was also a known love triangle going on bewteen the 3 of them and we all know that murder usually has 1 of 3 elements Sex, Money, Jealousy or... All of the above in some way or another.
I'm sorry but my common sense just tells me that SOMEONE just isn't talking and got away with it too. I'm sure we will never know.
She fell into the water and drowned.
What wood doesn't float?
Natalie, it seems.
LOL! Wow do you have proof of this? Where you there? And tell me this... "She fell into the water and drowned?" Um, care to explain why the dingy to the boat they were on was found adrift and near her when her body was found?
Can anyone help me with a photo of Christopher Walken circa :The Deer Hunter" I seem to be only able to post randomly as my wayward way allows!
Im a big fan, think he has boundless charisma and love his roles from the early eighties onwards when I got into him!
I always thought he was a beauty then but I was just a kid!
He aged does that make him evil?
Here u go
Nobody saw her fall in. If they had she'd still be here.LOL! Wow do you have proof of this? Where you there? And tell me this... "She fell into the water and drowned?" Um, care to explain why the dingy to the boat they were on was found adrift and near her when her body was found?
Or not.
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If there had been a murder that night it would have been Walken or Wagner murdering the other. But that didn't happen either. What could either man have said? That they were passed out drunk when Natalee needed rescuing? Fate is not a crime
Yep there is something about him I just love! Obviously Natalie saw something in him too! He was hot in younger days!
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He still gives me the willies
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