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    Ha, Mammy!

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    I don't like horror movie.

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    I went to see Dark Skies last night with my son. I usually don't get into alien movies, but this one looked scary so I bit. It wasn't a bad movie. There were some really scary scenes in it, I jumped a few times actually! I really liked it.
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    the only "scary" thing about Killer Clowns from Outer Space are how creepy and slow moving the clowns are. The actual movie itself is ..... yawn. Um, worth a remake if considered.
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    MTV is making Scream into a tv series? Sounds like something I wouldn't mind watching.
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    OOOH! The "Scream" series looks like it could be promising, especially if Wes Craven directs.

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    OKay, since this topic cropped back up: last year's (2012) Sinister was nearly the creepiest thing I've seen-if I could only excise about 5 minutes of footage about an hour in that actually gives the ending away, it would be perfect. Movies don't ever bother me but this one really, really did. I highly recommend it as something that gets under your skin in a disturbing way
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg King View Post
    OKay, since this topic cropped back up: last year's (2012) Sinister was nearly the creepiest thing I've seen-if I could only excise about 5 minutes of footage about an hour in that actually gives the ending away, it would be perfect. Movies don't ever bother me but this one really, really did. I highly recommend it as something that gets under your skin in a disturbing way
    Thank you! I am hardly scared by movies, but that one really got under my skin too. My dad always teases me by saying Ba'gul is going to be on my computer screen!

    A movie that really scared me isn't really strictly a horror, kind of more of a thriller, but it is called Session 9. It came out in 2001. Ugh. The sound of the voices on the tape (it is set in an abandoned mental hospital) still gives me chills.

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    The original Haunting scared me something awful and I am still sometimes haunted by the sound of that entity bouncing off the walls. Eeeek! Halloween 1 and 3 were spooky too. There was also some movie back then about Zombies that was supposed to be scary as hell, but was so campy I LMAO during the entire film.

    The Haunting of Hill House--I could have done without seeing that one. Scary. What got me was the vibrating ghosts. Ew.

    Greg, Thank God Netflix doesn't offer Sinister, otherwise I would have watched it and been so scared I'd have crawled in bed with Sissy. Seriously.
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    god, you gotta see Sinister. In the first 45 seconds I was stunned....and it got worse from there
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg King View Post
    god, you gotta see Sinister. In the first 45 seconds I was stunned....and it got worse from there
    I just watched the trailer. Yikes! I gotta see this movie now.
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    I'll put it like this: I write and always have some movie or another on all night long as I work. I saw the first minute of Sinister and knew this wasn't any usual movie; I turned off the computer and just watched, something I haven't done with any movie for more than a decade. Again, I WISH I could delete 5 minutes an hour in, but other than that, man....
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    I'm going to order the DVD. I'll let you know what I think about it.
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    You won't be disappointed. We went to the theaters to see it.. Ethan Hawk and Del Toro.... this was a must see for me. Even my husband liked it, and he doesn't normally do horror.

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    I've been trying to quit doing horror but sometimes I just gotta.
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    Gore fests

    Many years ago during my youth, back in the days when dinosaurs roamed the earth, it was common for myself and other young lads - and to some extent girls too - to rent horror videos partly just to revel in the gore. Back then, video cassettes themselves were a fairly new thing, whilst the internet still did not exist as a public medium. There was much debate in the UK at the time certainly about so-called "video nasties" and their potential impact on young minds.

    But it was always common for young people at the time to seek out the goriest horror films and delight in describing the most gruesome scenes to each other. And most of us turned out pretty normal in the end. We all knew it was just special effects, and that no one was being hurt. And like many I soon enough lost interest in such films as I grew older if they were little more than gorefests with crappy plots. But back then the Friday 13th films, and banned films like Driller Killer and Cannibal Holocaust were much sought after and viewed.

    But to be honest, I think that whilst this juvenile delight in gore is no doubt still there, what is available now that wasn't back then really does horrify me. Films that were banned at the time, look tame in comparison to stuff like Saw today, which seems to be actively and openly pandering to sadistic impulses at times. I don't watch this kind of thing anymore because it just turns me off. But far worse are the offerings of the internet, where genuine murders and tortures - real life and not merely "special effects" - are readily available. Beheadings and burnings alive can be very readily found - as I discovered in only a couple of minutes before starting this thread, though I chose not to view very much of it.

    But here's the worry. Turning the clock back 30 years and knowing how much I and most other young people delighted in gore and gory imagery at the time, I know that if all these real life beheadings, burnings, tortures, murders, and whatever, were available to us back then, we'd no doubt have revelled in it and frequently viewed it. So I am sure that many of today's younger people do exactly that. And so I worry that they are too easily able to get off on watching actual murders and tortures of people they know to be real victims. And that for some this must desensitise them to the horror of such crimes and even "normalise" them for some whose moral compass is already less than fully operative.

    And when I read of all the sickness and depravity committed sometimes by some very young people, I cannot help but wonder if there is a connection there.

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    OMG. Hubby got hold of the director's uncut version of the first "Hostel." O...M...G. It started slow, and then... That is the ONLY movie to ever give me nightmares. I dreamed about that man in the rubber apron several nights in a row after that.
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    Watched Stephen King's "Thinner" today...hadn't seen it in years. About to watch a new horror film called "Finale"...picked it up at my local video store for 3 bucks. Supposedly similar to Argento's work. We'll see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RiaBrown View Post
    OMG. Hubby got hold of the director's uncut version of the first "Hostel." O...M...G. It started slow, and then... That is the ONLY movie to ever give me nightmares. I dreamed about that man in the rubber apron several nights in a row after that.
    I remember seeing Hostel in the theater being extremely bored with it until the last 10 minutes or so of the movie. Then it was like AWWWW YEAHHHHH gore time.

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    I can't get into the torture movies like Hostel. It's not really horror to me, horror is scary shit, and torture flicks seem more disturbing than scary to me. I usually avoid them like the plague. I do love a good haunting or zombie movie.

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    mine are simple: Original Amityville Horror even though some parts are way too overly done. I simply can't watch Halloween anymore- the plot now does not make sense. Speaking of, in Halloween H20 Jamie Lee C says 'He killed my sister'. Does that mean Laurie Strode and Michael Myers are related too? Was Laurie's sister baby-sitting someone else's kid??? The whole damn movie is exaggerated and really is stupid at this point.
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    Loved the Saw movies, very clever.

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    It has been years since I had Seen Hello Mary Lou- Prom Night II, I must say I enjoyed it. I just found in my collection He Knows You're Alone with Tom Hanks, I barely remember the premise, let alone him in it! Lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mansfield67 View Post
    It has been years since I had Seen Hello Mary Lou- Prom Night II, I must say I enjoyed it. I just found in my collection He Knows You're Alone with Tom Hanks, I barely remember the premise, let alone him in it! Lol.
    I don't remember Hanks, but I sure remember the premise.
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    Now I remember. This was Tom's first film and acting credit, he has come along way.
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    Best: I so enjoyed the film: Abbott and Costello meet Frankenstein (1948)
    Frankenstein monster played by Glen Strange and not Boris Karloff.
    Worst: any of the saw films.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theotherlondon View Post
    Best: I so enjoyed the film: Abbott and Costello meet Frankenstein (1948)
    Frankenstein monster played by Glen Strange and not Boris Karloff.
    Worst: any of the saw films.
    A&C Meet F is a fave, I will have to get it out again. Never seen any of the SAW films, but out of umpteen Halloween franchise films the 1978 one is still the best hands down.
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    Watched Fade To Black with Dennis Christopher from 1980. I had forgotten how much Linda Kerridge looked like Monroe! Click image for larger version. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mansfield67 View Post
    Watched Fade To Black with Dennis Christopher from 1980. I had forgotten how much Linda Kerridge looked like Monroe! Click image for larger version. 

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    I thought it was Monroe before I read your post.
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    Best - The Changeling (1980)

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    Best: Halloween 1978
    Worst: Some thang about zombies in the late 70s that was so corny it made us giggle, especially when others in the theater screamed in terror.
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    Best : Halloween 1978
    Worst: RIPD hubby and I went to see it when it came out, it was so bad after ten mins we got up and left, as well as a few other people.

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    Best: Halloween 1978
    Worst: When A Stranger Calls 2006 "Hello? Is someone in the house? Hello" Just ridiculous! LOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mansfield67 View Post
    Best: Halloween 1978
    Worst: When A Stranger Calls 2006
    I loved When a Stranger Calls. I might not now, though. Actually, I can't watch horror movies anymore. They give me nightmares. It is not funny to run from Michael Myers, let me tell ya. Lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cindyt View Post
    I loved When a Stranger Calls. I might not now, though. Actually, I can't watch horror movies anymore. They give me nightmares. It is not funny to run from Michael Myers, let me tell ya. Lol.
    Lol. The original WASC from 1979 is genuinely scary, as is the sequel When A Stranger Calls Back. Carol Kane was great in both. I can watch horror if someone who is really famous is in the cast. I figure if they can make it, I can watch it! Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mansfield67 View Post
    Lol. The original WASC from 1979 is genuinely scary, as is the sequel When A Stranger Calls Back. Carol Kane was great in both. I can watch horror if someone who is really famous is in the cast. I figure if they can make it, I can watch it! Lol
    Lol. I don't remember if I saw the sequel to WASC. The movie that scared me crapless psychologically was The Haunting. That ghost banging against the walls--YIKES! I first saw it when I was a kid, and it still terrified me when I saw as an adult. It wouldn't faze me now that I've lost my hearing, though.
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    I'm a big fan of Billy Gray (The Day the Earth Stood Still) so I'm mentioning two of his later films, The Navy versus the Night Monsters and Werewolves on Wheels. The former has a better-known cast, the latter is a mixture of Easy Rider, satan worship and werewolves. Gray has mentioned in interviews that his appearing in these was the belief that "work begets work". Unfortunately, the only work it led to Dusty and Sweets McGee, a drug-culture movie featuring some real-life addicts (in spite of what Leonard Maltin said, Gray not being one of them, lol).

    Anyway, Night Monsters also has Mamie Van Doren, Bobby Van, Joan Crawford's ex Phil Terry and James Mason's ex Pamela. They're on a navy base on a remote island, the villains are some seeds / pods that grow into killer trees. Yes, killer trees. The things that are deeply rooted into the ground so they can't move, so in order for them to kill you, you need to walk close enough to them so they can grab you. All I could think of were the talking apple trees in The Wizard of Oz and couldn't stop laughing. Gray has a website with an email address; I emailed him twice and he quickly and graciously responded to my questions. I told him that I considered Night Monsters and Werewolves to be cult films, interesting in their own right.


    Not sure if I mentioned this in another post (which I can't find) so sorry if this is a repeat, but Alice Cooper in Monster Dog is beyond horrible. Nothing against him, but he's not photogenic from any angle, the plot has him going to his family home after many years to make a music video (natch, his character is a rock star). The sparse crew (as few people as it probably takes to film bad amateur porn) that accompanies him end up getting killed by monster dogs. Yes, nothing screams "quality music video" like having 4 or 5 people as your total production crew. Alice himself transforms into the title role at the end of the movie.



    Oooh, don't the dogs look scary. One is so bored, it's actually looking towards the camera for direction from its trainer!


    Alice on the left, showing why he'd be runner-up in any Howard Stern (or maybe Tiny Tim) lookalike contest....


    Bad movies deserve to have bad art on the walls. As much as I like to see what kindergarteners can draw, damned if I'm going to frame their drawing and hang it on the wall! A magnet attaching it to the fridge will do.



    One of the absolute worst horror movies is It starring Roddy McDowall. He works in a museum that has a Golem statue, he finds the magic scroll that gives it life to be commanded by Roddy.



    People who piss Roddy off (incidentally, his character is an unsympathetic, unlikable piece of shit) are conveniently bumped-off by It. Eventually the police realize Roddy's responsible for the murders, but too late! He's escaped with It to some country mansion. The police (working with scientists) determine the only logical way to destroy It is to drop an atomic bomb with a one-mile radius! The bomb kills Roddy (thereby depriving him of a dramatic death scene) but It survives, to walk off into the sea off the British coast.
    Oh, and in case the main plot didn't suck enough, there's a subplot involving his dead mom. Roddy never buried her, he's keeping her at home and talks to her, just like Norman Bates in Psycho. Told ya Roddy's character was an unlikable piece of shit.


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    I will probably spend Halloween night watching my favourite episodes from The Twilight Zone and Night Gallery. There is an episode of The Alfred Hitchcock Hour called An Unlocked Window that you can see on Dailymotion that is really tension filled. They did a remake in 1985, skip that one. The original in B/W still gives me chills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mansfield67 View Post
    I will probably spend Halloween night watching my favourite episodes from The Twilight Zone and Night Gallery. There is an episode of The Alfred Hitchcock Hour called An Unlocked Window that you can see on Dailymotion that is really tension filled. They did a remake in 1985, skip that one. The original in B/W still gives me chills.
    I so enjoy all those American TV shows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mansfield67 View Post
    I will probably spend Halloween night watching my favourite episodes from The Twilight Zone and Night Gallery. There is an episode of The Alfred Hitchcock Hour called An Unlocked Window that you can see on Dailymotion that is really tension filled. They did a remake in 1985, skip that one. The original in B/W still gives me chills.
    I used to love it back in the day when you had all nighters on the TV. It would start off with more family friendly stuff and then the later it got, the scarier the films got. If Halloween fell on a weekday, my mum would let my sister and myself have the next day off school because she knew we would be up till the early hours. Nowadays, you are lucky if you get one film shown on the night, never mind a bunch of them so more than likely it will be Netflix or Disney+ for me.

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    Those were the days! I still watch It's The Great Pumpkin Charlie Brown every year. It's a time honoured tradition. Next stop Christmas, which usually starts the day after Halloween here! Lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mansfield67 View Post
    Those were the days! I still watch It's The Great Pumpkin Charlie Brown every year. It's a time honoured tradition. Next stop Christmas, which usually starts the day after Halloween here! Lol.
    My sister is the same. She loves xmas and if she she could put the decorations up now she would. She loved it when she had kids because she could really start going way out with stuff the way she couldn't before hand. She wasn't happy when they got to the age they weren't really bothered then decided sod it and kept on to the point that it's become a running joke that my niece threatens to take her card away and change her passwords online lol.

    As for Halloween films, my niece loves Nightmare Before Christmas, The Corpse Bride and Coraline. She doesn't just watch them at Halloween but all year round. It became a tradition to watch them with her when she was little and now she guilt trips me into it every time. Part of it is because she likes the films but I think the bigger part is I take her to the shop and let her buy goodies for us which is usually enough to supply a cinema and lasts her and her friends for weeks after.

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    I've got an urge to binge on Halloween movies Sunday, and it's this thread's fault! LMBOooo! If I can find some good Stephen King. I do have the IT reboot and the sequel. I might do those, maybe Cujo. Hmmm. But absolutely no slashers.
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    Have yŠll seen Stephen King's A Good Marriage. It is one of the best sneak ups to a real jaw-dropper. It isn't on par with IT or Cujo or The Stand, but it is shock worthy.
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    I don't like most of the hacker and slasher movies. The only one of that type that I do like is Nightmare On Elm Street. I do like Freddy's sarcastic sense of humor.
    I do like some of the movies that are called Psychological Thrillers. The one I like the most is Pacific Heights. Anybody remember that one? It starred Michael Keaton and Melanie Griffith.
    The two scary movies I definitely cannot watch are Silence Of The Lambs and The Fly, the Jeff Goldblum version. Either of those will keep me awake all night, and not in a good way!
    Oh, I almost forgot to add, Kingdom Of The Spiders, with William Shatner. Cheesy, bad these days, but watching it as a kid, in a drive in theater, it creeped me out. I thought the spiders were going to crawl into the car. And the scene where William Shatner goes down to the basement, to see why the power went out, and finds a gazillion spiders all over the power box, nearly sent me over the edge!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cindyt View Post
    I've got an urge to binge on Halloween movies Sunday, and it's this thread's fault! LMBOooo! If I can find some good Stephen King. I do have the IT reboot and the sequel. I might do those, maybe Cujo. Hmmm. But absolutely no slashers.
    I loved Tim Curry's version of Pennywise and went into the 2017 one thinking I was never going to like it but I was really surprised. Part of what made it good was Bill Skarsgard didn't try and play it like Tim did and went his own way and it worked. Two wasn't as good as one in my opinion but still worth a watch.

    Quote Originally Posted by "What Tha....?" View Post
    I don't like most of the hacker and slasher movies. The only one of that type that I do like is Nightmare On Elm Street. I do like Freddy's sarcastic sense of humor.
    I do like some of the movies that are called Psychological Thrillers. The one I like the most is Pacific Heights. Anybody remember that one? It starred Michael Keaton and Melanie Griffith.
    The two scary movies I definitely cannot watch are Silence Of The Lambs and The Fly, the Jeff Goldblum version. Either of those will keep me awake all night, and not in a good way!
    Oh, I almost forgot to add, Kingdom Of The Spiders, with William Shatner. Cheesy, bad these days, but watching it as a kid, in a drive in theater, it creeped me out. I thought the spiders were going to crawl into the car. And the scene where William Shatner goes down to the basement, to see why the power went out, and finds a gazillion spiders all over the power box, nearly sent me over the edge!
    The first three Freddy films were good but like with the Hellraiser franchise, the more they released, the worse they got and by the time they did the TV show it was beyond cheesy and lost what made it good to begin with.

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