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  1. #101
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    I would like to see the McCanns undergo lie detector tests. I don't know how easy they are to fool but I'd hope to get some definate information from them.

    And I would agree the vast majority of Brits would never leave their kids and go out for dinner. Aside from the fact it's wrong to leave the kids I'm sure if you did it in the UK you'd get into trouble. I suppose some people relax too much on holiday and feel safe and take risks they wouldn't normally. As I said though the vast majority wouldn't do it and I know someone who paid for a family friend to join them on holiday so that he and his wife could go out some nights and know their child was being well looked after.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SassySu View Post
    Again I say

    I hope their dinner was worth it.
    when i read your first post, i thought you were gonna say that they ATE her! lord, what a mind i have!

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    Quote Originally Posted by susalu View Post
    when i read your first post, i thought you were gonna say that they ATE her! lord, what a mind i have!
    no, that's a different thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnegan View Post
    no, that's a different thread.
    AND what thread would that be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by susalu View Post
    when i read your first post, i thought you were gonna say that they ATE her! lord, what a mind i have!
    Me too thats what I thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PvN73 View Post
    AND what thread would that be?
    http://www.findadeath.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2714

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    This case is fast turning into a farce and Madeline seems to have been forgotten in the midst of it all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathyf View Post
    Me too thats what I thought.
    gmta kathy gmta

  9. #109
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    Apparently the British forensics team are having a meeting with the forensics team from Portugal regarding the blood found in the McCann's hire car. I guess we'll have to await the reports on that one.

  10. #110
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    Pornstar Zoey Zane Missing - Foul Play Suspected



    EL DORADO, Kan. - A missing Kansas college student believed to be the victim of foul play apparently led a double life as an Internet porn star by the name of Zoey Zane.

    Nude photos of 18-year-old Emily Sander appeared on a Zoey Zane Web site before she vanished, and investigators are looking into whether her modeling had anything to do with her disappearance last Friday.
    “She enjoyed it. She is a young teenage girl and she wanted to be in the movies and enjoyed movies. She needed the extra money,” Nikki Watson, a close friend of Sander’s at Butler Community College, told The Associated Press on Wednesday. “Nobody in El Dorado knew besides her close friends.”

    Sander’s brother, Jacob Sander, confirmed that the nude woman pictured on the site is his sister.

    ‘Apparently involved in a Web site situation’
    El Dorado Police Chief Tom Boren said FBI and state experts on Internet crime have been called in.
    “Investigators are aware that Miss Sander was apparently involved in a Web site situation,” he said. “Allegations that this may factor into her disappearance are being thoroughly investigated.”
    Sander was last seen leaving a bar in El Dorado, about 30 miles from Wichita, with a man identified as Israel Mireles, 24, authorities said. Sander and Mireles had met that night at the bar, according to Watson.
    After Mireles did not show up Saturday at his job at an Italian restaurant, his employer went to the motel room where he was staying.
    “His motel room was found to appear in great disarray and a large quantity of blood was found in the room,” Boren said. “Bed clothing was found to be missing. The police were called.”

    Manhunt under way
    A nationwide manhunt was under way for Mireles and his 16-year-old girlfriend. A rental car he had been driving turned up Tuesday in Texas, where he had family. On Tuesday, authorities released a photo of a white bedspread with a floral design and asked for the public’s help in locating it.
    “Our hopes kind of diminish each day we don’t hear from her,” the police chief said Wednesday.
    Sander recently signed a contract for the pornographic work on the Web site, and told her parents about it on Thanksgiving, Watson said. Her boyfriend broke up with her because he did not approve, Watson said.
    Sander’s grandmother, Shirley Sander, said: “What you are telling me now is things we have never been told or heard. I don’t know what to say. We have never heard anything like this and truthfully I don’t believe it.”
    The company listed as the domain registrant for the Web site lists a Wichita address. Its administrator did not immediately return a call for comment. The site domain record shows the site was created in April.

    ‘Emily did not want anybody to know’
    Watson said she does not believe Sander’s pornography work had anything to do with the disappearance.
    “Nobody even knew about this until one of our close friends came out and told everybody because Emily did not want anybody to know,” Watson said.
    The brown-haired, blue-eyed Sander was last seen wearing low-rider jeans and a “Don’t Mess With Texas” T-shirt. She has tattoos and body piercings.

    http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5i...32wtwD8T6UR180

    http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3925266&page=1

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22012733/
    Last edited by SomeChick; 04-25-2009 at 12:24 AM. Reason: Pic link to porn site removed.

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    That is some sad shit. So young.
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    I honestly am surprised that this was kept a secret. I think this sort of double life would not be easy to be kept secret.

  13. #113
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    One can always have hope, that she didn't meet with foul play. Odds are bad though. Bless her and her family, I pray for them to find her.

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    I hope they find her

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    after many months of information from the UK journalists etc, I now feel that the parents are ONLY guilty of negligence (they're never gonna get done with that, unfortunately). Their so-called-friends, I don't believe their statements at all!! too many convenient memory lapses!!

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    pogo, any guesses on what happened to the child?

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    not gonna be popular for saying this but I reckon Maddie is dead, gut feeling! sorry all! Don't honestly know.....sorry.....my instinct tells me this

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    Quote Originally Posted by pogobean View Post
    not gonna be popular for saying this but I reckon Maddie is dead, gut feeling! sorry all! Don't honestly know.....sorry.....my instinct tells me this
    Pogo you're not alone on that one, alot of people on the messageboard i go on believe she's dead as do i

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    Quote Originally Posted by pogobean View Post
    not gonna be popular for saying this but I reckon Maddie is dead, gut feeling! sorry all! Don't honestly know.....sorry.....my instinct tells me this
    Have a feeeling you're probably right about her being dead. Sad though it is to say. Very few cases like this ever end happily.

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    Yahoo/AP reported that they think they found her body fifty miles east of where she was last seen alive:
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071129/...56JTyBLTOs0NUE

    Her poor family. I don't care what kind of "secret life" you have, you should be able to go out and be safe doing it.
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    That bastard Mireles is on his way to Mexico by now. I hope they catch him.

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    is dead..

    She was found dead!

    Sad deal for sure!


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    http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com...fm?action=list

    I can't believe this Gerry McCann has been nominated for scot of the year award
    what so now he's getting praised and may win an award for leaving 3 children alone in an apartment and having his daughter disappear through his and his wifes neglectfulness to make sure the children were not in any danger

    defies belief i'm disgusted

  24. #124
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    It's obscene whenever a young life is wiped out like this.

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    Well I don't want to seem cold or uncaring but my gut instinct tells me it was a bad trick. I have no issues about prostitutes or 'internet performers', hey you gotta make a living. It is just that sometimes they have no control over the loons they pick up.
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    this so sad~ & the fact that i heard her grandpa interviewed yesterday before they had found her body & he was so sad & just wanted to find her no matter the outcome~ & the damn interviewer would not stop bringing up this porn stuff, i just wanted to smack the guy!!!~

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    Quote Originally Posted by GODDESS6 View Post
    this so sad~ & the fact that i heard her grandpa interviewed yesterday before they had found her body & he was so sad & just wanted to find her no matter the outcome~ & the damn interviewer would not stop bringing up this porn stuff, i just wanted to smack the guy!!!~
    Journo's can be the sleaziest of the lot at times. We have some real shockers in Australia. I have no idea how they sleep at night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neilmpenny View Post
    Well I don't want to seem cold or uncaring but my gut instinct tells me it was a bad trick. I have no issues about prostitutes or 'internet performers', hey you gotta make a living. It is just that sometimes they have no control over the loons they pick up.
    I'm with you on that... girl who is into porn turns up dead, the odds are against "random killing". Reminds me of Aileen Wuornos except she would be on the run and the guy would be killed.


  29. #129
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    I'm sad for her. But I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE it when people lead double lives like as porno stars and stuff. Maybe it's because I secretly want to do the same.

    My favorite movie growing up was "Angel." I have the back cover of the movie memorized: "During the day, 15-year old Molly Stewart is an honor student at an expensive Los Angeles private school. At night, she become 'Angel,' a streetwise prostitute making a living among the slime and sleaze of Hollywood Boulevard residents, resulting in electrifying action and suspense."

    The movie poster read, "Her two lives are about to collide. It's her choice. Her Chance. Her Life."
    I wanted to be Angel growing up.

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    It's trilogy out on DVD, but the first was the best.




  31. #131
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysticakasha View Post
    http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com...fm?action=list

    I can't believe this Gerry McCann has been nominated for scot of the year award
    what so now he's getting praised and may win an award for leaving 3 children alone in an apartment and having his daughter disappear through his and his wifes neglectfulness to make sure the children were not in any danger

    defies belief i'm disgusted
    OMG that is just bizarre and kind of a kick in the teeth for the other nominees. Especially the airport guy (can't remember his name) who tackled the terrorist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Littleroben View Post
    OMG that is just bizarre and kind of a kick in the teeth for the other nominees. Especially the airport guy (can't remember his name) who tackled the terrorist.
    The dude who stopped the fricking Terrorist in Glasgow should win. That is all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuckMyKiss View Post
    The dude who stopped the fricking Terrorist in Glasgow should win. That is all.
    Totally agree with you there, no question he should win. Especially over Gerry McCann and Gordon 'clueless' Brown.

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    I think the parents are guilty, but they are going to get away with it.

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    the parents are getting away with it, nominated for awards, treated like wonderful parents and anyone who dares question it or mention the word 'neglect' they are called 'Mccann Bashers'

    these 2 are getting away with murder...literally

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    Well it looks as though the Portugese police want to question them again. Hopefully they'll either charge them or formally say they believe they didn't do it. Just wish the police had pulled their finger out sooner ie back in May!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christie Prody View Post
    I'm sad for her. But I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE it when people lead double lives like as porno stars and stuff. Maybe it's because I secretly want to do the same. (snip)
    Well the internet is the perfect vehicle for that I would expect.
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  38. #138
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    They confirmed that the body they found is Emily Sander

    http://www.kansas.com/197/story/243070.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christie Prody View Post
    It's trilogy out on DVD, but the first was the best.


    oooooowwwww i loved these movies!!!~

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    Sander’s brother, Jacob Sander, confirmed that the nude woman pictured on the site is his sister.

    That had to be a little weird for him.

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    I've just got this from a messageboard i use portugese(i think) then translated into english
    El Mundo, Lunes 3 de Diciembre de 2007

    ‘Caso Maddie’ : se estrecha el cerco

    Las escuchas telefónicas implican a Gerry McCann y también a Russel O’Brien, que pasaría a ser sospechoso

    LONDRES.- Siete meses después de la noche en que Madeleine McCann desapareció misteriosamente de su cama, la policía portuguesa parece mas cerca que nunca de la solución del caso, que tanta tinta y dinero, ha hecho correr. Tras una visita sorpresa a Elderby, sede de la policía de Leicestershire (Reino Unido), de la que dependen Kate y Gerry McCann, las autoridades portuguesas se preparan para volver a interrogar al grupo de los nueve británicos que están en el centro del misterio.

    Tras cooperar con las autoridades inglesas, la Policía Judicial portuguesa tendrá que viajar a Inglaterra las próximas semanas, con el objetivo de interrogar tanto a Gerry y Kate McCann como a siete de sus amigos, con los que los padres de Maddie estaban cenando la noche del día 3 de mayo.

    La reunión de Elderby, entre la policía portuguesa y británica con la presencia de diversos especialistas de la policía científica, sirvió para reforzar la línea de investigación que el equipo de Paulo Rebelo sigue desde el pasado mes de julio y que condujo a considerar como arguidos (sospechosos) al matrimonio McCann.

    La Policía Judicial portuguesa sigue sospechando que Kate y Gerry McCann escondieron el cadáver de su hija, Madeleine, y simularon su secuestro. Una imputación que amplia a otros dos sospechosos, Robert Murat y Russell O’Brien. En contra de lo que muchos pensaban hasta ahora, la Policía Judicial tiene en su poder más elementos probatorios que los simples análisis del ADN.

    Según diversos testimonios, dispone, por ejemplo, de la lista de las llamadas telefónicas efectuadas por el matrimonio McCann y sus amigos, y conoce, asimismo, as los destinatarios de esas llamadas y, en algunos casos, el contenido exacto de las conversaciones realizadas por todos los miembros del grupo.

    La llamada que más intrigo a la policía portuguesa tuvo lugar el día 10 de junio entre Russell O’Brien y Gerry McCann. El padre de Maddie aseguro inicialmente a la policía que la llamada había sido realizada desde un lugar situado a cuatro kilómetros del Ocean Club. Sin embargo, las escuchas de las llamadas y la triangulación de las antenas permitió a la policía portuguesa, en colaboración con los técnicos británicos, comprobar que tales afirmaciones eran falsas.

    El lugar desde donde se hizo esa llamada y el contenido de la misma son los indicios que faltaban y que la policía quiere explorar en los interrogatorios, que podrían conducir a la rápida localización del cuerpo de Madeleine.

    La triangulación de las llamadas ha permitido que la policía descubra un granero abandonado, donde se encontró una toalla manchada de sangre y residuos procedentes del maletero del Renault Scénic alquilado por los McCann.

    Además, varios videos y diversas fotografías forman parte del sumario, especialmente algunas que demuestran que Murat ya conocía a los miembros del grupo. Aparte de la extraña coincidencia de que Murat hubiera estado en Exeter, el lugar donde residían entonces Russel O’Brien y Jane Tanner, la policía recibió de sus colegas británicos diversos elementos que pueden probar que Gerry McCann y Robert Murat ya se habían visto y hablado en diversas ocasiones, incluso antes de que los McCann viajasen a Praia da Luz.

    Una fuente cercana a la Fiscalía confirmo que existen pruebas suficientes, independientemente de los test de ADN, para poder realizar las acusaciones oficiales. Pero esa decisión solo se tomara después de los interrogatorios y ya cerca del final del plazo tras el cual el sumario del caso dejara de ser secreto.

    Con el reforzamiento de la línea de la investigación y de las sospechas de la policía portuguesa sobre los McCann, los investigadores disponen de ocho meses para concluís el sumario. A partir de ese momento, el proceso se hace público, según el nuevo Código penal portugués.

    La situación de Robert Murat, Gerry y Kate podría, pues, agravarse. En efecto, Murat fue declarado sospechoso o arguido el día 14 de mayo y, por lo tanto, sus ocho meses de plazo terminan en enero. El matrimonio McCann fue declarado sospechoso el día 7 de septiembre, con lo que, en su caso, el plazo terminaría en el mes de mayo.

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    GOOGLE Translation

    The World, Wednesday December 3, 2007

    'Case Maddie': the siege narrows

    The wiretapping involving Gerry McCann and also Russell O'Brien, which would become suspect

    LONDON - Seven months after the night he disappeared mysteriously Madeleine McCann his bed, police Portuguese seemed closer than ever to solving the case, which so much ink and money has caused. After a surprise visit to Elderby, Police Headquarters Leicestershire (UK), which depend Kate and Gerry McCann, the Portuguese authorities are preparing to return to question a group of nine British are at the heart of the mystery.

    After cooperating with the British authorities, the Portuguese Judicial Police will be required to travel to England the next few weeks, with the aim of interrogating both Gerry and Kate McCann and seven of his friends with the parents of Maddie were having dinner the night of May 3.

    The meeting Elderby between the Portuguese and British police in the presence of various specialists in forensics, served to reinforce the line of research equipment Paulo Rebelo continues since last July and which led to consider as arguidos ( suspects) marriage McCann.

    The Portuguese Judicial Police still suspecting that Kate and Gerry McCann hid the body of her daughter, Madeleine, and simulated his abduction. A broad allegation that two other suspects, Robert and Russell Murat O'Brien. Contrary to what many thought so far, the Judicial Police has in its possession more evidence that simple DNA analysis.

    According to various testimonies, available, for example, from the list of telephone calls made by the marriage McCann and his friends, and known also as the recipients of those calls and, in some cases, the exact content of the talks conducted by all members of the group.

    The call that most intrigo the Portuguese police took place on June 10 between Russell O'Brien and Gerry McCann. The father of Maddie assure initially to the police that the call had been made from a location four kilometers from Ocean Club. However, listening to the calls and triangulating antennas enabled the Portuguese police, in collaboration with technicians British verify that such claims were false.

    The place from where the call was made and the content of the signs are missing and the police want to explore in interrogations, which could lead to the rapid location of the body of Madeleine.

    The triangulation of calls has enabled the police discovered an abandoned barn, where there was a towel stained with blood and debris from the trunk of Renault Scénic rented by McCann.

    In addition, several videos and various photographs are part of the summary, particularly some showing that Murat already knew the group members. Aside from the strange coincidence that Murat had been in Exeter, where residents then Russell O'Brien and Jane Tanner, the police received from his British colleagues various elements that can prove that Gerry McCann and Robert Murat had already been seen and spoken on several occasions, even before the McCann travel to Praia da Luz.

    A source close to the Attorney can confirm that there is sufficient evidence, regardless of the DNA test, to make formal accusations. But that decision was taken only after the interrogation, and near the end of the period after which the summary of the case ceases to be secret.

    With the strengthening of the line of the investigation and the suspicions of the police on the Portuguese McCann, investigators have eight months to concluís content. From that moment, the process is made public, according to the new penal code Portuguese.

    The situation of Robert Murat, Gerry and Kate could therefore worsen. Indeed, Murat was declared a suspect or arguido on May 14 and, therefore, his eight-month period ending in January. Marriage McCann was declared a suspect on September 7, which, in his case, the term expiring in May.
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    The place from where the call was made and the content of the signs are missing and the police want to explore in interrogations, which could lead to the rapid location of the body of Madeleine.

    The triangulation of calls has enabled the police discovered an abandoned barn, where there was a towel stained with blood and debris from the trunk of Renault Scénic rented by McCann.


    this sent a shiver down my spine

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    thanx for the new info, this case has been very sad & i hope it all comes to an end soon~

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    could they not do a better job translating than that?!
    can someone pls give me the readers digest version of that?
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    If it smells like shit... it's probably shit.

    Mom or Dad probably beat her or did something to cause her death and the cover up began.


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    As I understand it they (Portugese Police) either want to charge aguido's before the 8 months for each (Murat and the McGanns) ends as after that time their solicitors are allowed access to the documents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Littleroben View Post
    As I understand it they (Portugese Police) either want to charge aguido's before the 8 months for each (Murat and the McGanns) ends as after that time their solicitors are allowed access to the documents.

    Yes. Looks like Murat is required to be charged by January which, if these claims are true, will see facts coming our way in January at the latest.


    Can't find anything about this anywhere else though. Anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by attackatdawn View Post
    Four-year-old Madeleine McCann from Rothley, Leicestershire, disappeared on May 3 during a holiday with her parents in the Algarve region of southern Portugal.

    Honestly I did not hear about this case until I seen it on the internet, I guess cause I am from the US. This is so sad do you think the parents had anything to do with her disappearance?
    This case reminds me of the Ramsey case in the sense that, we may never know what truly happened here.

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    I heard that the mother had given Madeline too much medication to make her sleep so she would calm down, as apparently she was hyper active and they wanted to go out to a restaurant. The dose that they had administered was too strong and Madeline died and the parents panicked and and dumped Madeline's body in the boot of there rental car and later buried her in an unknown location. I really do think that they are guilty, the mother seems cold to me, and she plays the religious card really well, I wonder if the church knows more that they are letting on too.
    Saying all this even if Madeline is found safe and well , the parents should be charged with neglect, for leaving her alone in the house while they were wining and dining. (bastards)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nowereman View Post
    I heard that the mother had given Madeline too much medication to make her sleep so she would calm down, as apparently she was hyper active and they wanted to go out to a restaurant. The dose that they had administered was too strong and Madeline died and the parents panicked and and dumped Madeline's body in the boot of there rental car and later buried her in an unknown location. I really do think that they are guilty, the mother seems cold to me, and she plays the religious card really well, I wonder if the church knows more that they are letting on too.
    Saying all this even if Madeline is found safe and well , the parents should be charged with neglect, for leaving her alone in the house while they were wining and dining. (bastards)
    It was proved untrue about maddie being hyperactive, but I still reckon all 3 children where sedated. How did someone manage to break into an apartment without waking up 3 kids, then take maddie without waking her up and making her scream for mummy and daddy. My daughter is the same age as maddie and I know for a fact if someone tried to take her and she didnt know them she would scream for me and her father. I believe the parents are guilty.
    If they had left the kids alone in england to go over the road to the pub I believe they would be charged with neglect and lose the twins. For some reason because they were abroad they are getting away with it and making it sound like we all leave our kids alone and go out on the piss. This really annoys me because no way on earth would I ever leave my daughter alone anywhere while I went out.

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