I think it depends on who you ask. I would assume there are some real ones out there because there is a market for it especially with those who get off on seeing people killed but I think they would be traded the same way as the sickos who deal in child stuff because if they were caught then it would be handcuffs time. Although I have been on some fetish sites that advertise it and it's nothing more than well acted scenes.
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^ hmmm maybe maybe ... the idea of making a film and death being a by product, not the other way round is obviously a crime and seeking it out would be also, so just to clarify i'm not attempting to procure a link ... but then again you never know what's lurking right under your nose, only a very potent artist could get away with that ... i doubt it could be found in the vain compulsions of a garden variety serial killer or the demented sentimentality of a trophy/souvenir collector
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Luka Magnotta infamously murdered Jun Lin on camera and leaked it onto the internet. It wasn't for financial gain but he seemed hungry for attention regardless of how it was obtained.
Hungry was one word for it yeah. As bad as what he did to that guy was and in no way am I diminishing it but what really made him a sicko in my eyes is what he did to the animals.
When I've been reading about Christine over the years since I've found out about her, I've noticed quite a few have said it was for publicity she did it which I don't believe for one second. I just think she had got to the end of her tether and that was it.
I agree. But for it to qualify as a snuff film, it has to be made for profit, and it was not.
Huh, so many people here agreeing we should delve into the deep web in search for the video, yet no one seems actually eager to do so, myself included. I guess I'm just a bit too paranoid to even touch the necessary software. It's all made (or at least modified) by hackers, who the hell knows what it contains. And even if the software itself is safe, it still feels a bit like walking into a really seedy neighborhood ruled by the mob in a 3rd world country - you just don't do it unless you have no choice.
Another thing I've been thinking about is that movie about Christine, set to be released next year (it's hard to find any updates online). I don't know how much research the creators want to do (or have done), but maybe, just maybe, they will find something that will lead them to the video. No doubt they have more resources than any of us. Or maybe at least they will finally dig out a couple of complete Suncoast Digest episodes. Those almost certainly exist, I think I read in this very thread that the weather guy has them but refuses to release them "out of respect" (yeah, like she cares).
Anyway, be prepared to see this thread flooded next year by people who found out about Christine from the movie. I'm gonna miss being a Christine fan before it was cool.
i suppose these guys could qualify
The name of the weatherman in question is Steve Newman. Yeah I have seen postings by him many years ago saying that he won't release his Chubbuck/Suncoast Digest stuff "out of respect". However the more I think about it, no I am sure about it...if the price is right and he still has the tapes he will let others to view them. It's not the first time I had seen this sort of thing. Back in 1986 there was a country singer from my hometown named Al Hogan. Talk about being on the verge of becoming a star. The man had just signed a recording contract and was about to do a music video. The man was set !! Unfortunately while appearing at a county fair in Virginia Al Hogan while doing a Chubby Checker tune dropped dead of a heart attack. The final concert was recorded by someone in the audience using a then-new thing called a camcorder and yes he did get Al's heart attack on tape.and that tape still exist too. Every so often on my town's Facebook page somebody would ask "hey..post the video of Al's death on You Tube !!"..and the guy who recorded the tragic event always says "..NO..it is out of respect why I don't !!". I know this guy's family and even they will admit that if the price is right the tape they will allow it on the internet. FWIW I did see that tape and when I asked if I could post it on my website despite the "out of respect" comments..well they said yes I could...for $20 K !!! I told them to forget it !!
..as they way "Money Talks" !!
Too bad WXLT in 1974 wasn't owned by some major TV group as if it were then "Suncoast Digest" could had been fed by closed circuit to other stations within the ownership, mainly for employees to show their work to other stations for future employment. This is how that mid 70's meltdown of Jessica Savitch when she was doing news at Philly's KYW channel 3 that took place doing a commercial break had survived. KYW being a part of the old Group W stations was linked by closed circuit to other Group W stations in Boston, Pittsburgh, Baltimore and San Francisco. When Jessica had her melt down the scene was not only taped ( she didn't know it ) but was also sent to the other Group W stations too and the behind the scenes folks had even edited in circus music on the tape they sent out. Of course those on the receiving end made their own copies. Lifetime aired the tape many years ago on a special about Jessica Savitch.
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Hmmm.... i wonder if offering Steve a large sum of money would convince him to release the tapes?
You have to figure that somebody already has inquired or I would assume so. She's more famous now because of the tape than she was alive and from all the sites reporting on it, there is a huge interest so somebody has to have asked him whether it was a private collector or some studio and with the amount of time that's past, if he hasn't before now then it isn't likely he'd sell it now. Maybe he's that rare thing in life...a decent human being who is actually being respectful like he says he is.
Of course he could just be a dick and the price he's looking for hasn't been offered yet.
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I think it depends on the individual on whether it's disrespectful or not. Some would say yes it should be shown anyway because she was a public figure and her suicide/death was public but then you also have those who say it's not right to the family which I can sort of see as if that was my mum/dad etc then I wouldn't want reminders of it all over the net.
We should compile every lead and clue so far and try to search based on each lead.
That's what I thought too... he supposedly has copies of the Suncoast Digest, not the suicide video. Soooo, why would seeing those be disrespectful? Ridiculous. IMO, seeing Christine's actual work would be interesting, and possibly, folks would have an opportunity chance to focus on her talent, instead of thinking ONLY of her suicide.
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Personally, I think she would LOVE for it to be seen - that is EXACTLY what she was going for. May suck for her family and friends, but that was not what she was not her concern.
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I would LOVE to see entire episodes of Suncoast Digest just to see Chubbuck's style and by watching her work one could learn more about her..the person. Did she enjoy her work ?? Was it just a paycheck for Chris ?? In this day and age of digital editing and voice tracking one can easily fake it but back in the 60s and 70s and even into the 80s you really couldn't. Rock & Roll radio from that era is a great example of this sort of thing. The ones who really enjoyed doing it such as Dan Ingram, Robert W. Morgan, Larry Lujack, Cousin Brucie Morrow, The real Don Steele are still remembered today..and then you have Bob Canada who played the hits in Virginia back in the 60s & 70s and Baltimore's Glenn Beck ( yes THAT Glenn Beck ) who did the same in the 80s however neither man didn't share the excitement ( Beck on Baltimore's old B104 really was a bore !! ). With Bob Canada today it's Bob..Who ??? and if it wasn't for his current talk show Beck would be a forgotten man today.
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I too totally don't understand not wanting to release the regular episodes of Suncoast Digest that were recorded.
I think the best one we had on here who tried to scam on of our users, saying that s/he had an audio recording of the suicide - this person living in Sarasota during their high school years was attending a high school journalism class and had to audio tape a news report for class and chose Suncoast Digest as their assignment. This person said they had an audio of the suicide and offered our FAD user $$$ for this tape.
I believe the FAD user (Michael555?) was very wise to question the authenticity of the tape and we all decided it was a fraud. The most telling for me was: which school district in Florida is in session in the middle of summer working on an end of the year assignment?![]()
Seriously. Let us know. I don't want to visit the deep web either. I do follow a guy on Youtube that does it then reports his finds. There's some scary stuff out there. I do wonder if these people are sure they really saw Christine. I'm not calling anyone here a liar. I'm just wondering if they knew for a fact it was her. I say this because I remember on previous pages of this thread that some people have said they've scoured the internet for it and have never found anything. I think some have even said the footage was destroyed. I do wonder about that just like Steve Irwin's death.No one's seen that footage either but I'm betting you there's a copy that someone has.
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Just watch out for scammers - if someone offers to sell you any Christine-related video, ask them for a couple of seconds of the recording, in original quality and with audio. If they refuse to provide that giving some made up reasons, you can be sure they have nothing and just want your bitcoins. And remember to scan whatever you find with some antivirus software, even video files can be used to spread malware nowadays.
Sorry if you already knew all that, just making sure.
In the case with Steve Irwin yeah I wouldn't be surprised if someone does has a copy of his death footage however even if it does exist I doubt whoever has it will ever publicly show it either. Chances are the Irwin family knew the camera crew personally and if not them most certainly Animal Planet will. In other words it would be quite easy to track down the person who uploaded the video also he/she if did do this sort of thing besides legal issues they could even find themselves being banned from employment in the biz too. The issue of "trust" will come into play.
It's any thing that isn't accessible through search engines like Google, Yahoo, Bing, you have to use a special browser called Tor to browse it, every site is ''.onion'' instead of ''.com'' or ''.org'', the main reason people use it is because it's completely anonymous, and as such, much of the content on it is legally dubious, it is 5x bigger than the ''regular'' web.
I thought of Christine when I heard about the reporter being shot on live TV this morning. I know it wasn't the same thing, but she was the first thing I thought of when someone brought it up to my instructor in class this morning and he watched it on his phone and described it to us.
Well, it's been 5 days and the seller hasn't replied to my email, I'm starting to get pretty suspicious, I'm still looking though.
Also watch out for VHS collectors on FB. They are finding weird and obscure death videos all the time.
Meanwhile, over on Fakebook...
https://www.facebook.com/groups/5469...=group_comment
People need to chill. It's cliche but true...you don't like something then don't look read what has clearly been linked then complain it's something you don't like. Hopefully there will be some news but I seriously doubt it will be found now. The tape is slowly turning into the ultimate urban legend.
Wow, Midas Wilder, is the FB page always like that? If so, you are a patient, patient, human.
Within 10 posts someone tried to steer the conversation to Nancy Spungeon, by post 46 someone mentions the news team being shot last week and proceeds to insist it was all a hoax that was "being literally torn apart by the hoax/conspiracy community."
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