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    Hi
    Finally we have the audio of "the tape" but without final part:
    https://youtu.be/d2bUd2HCqHI

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    hmm, I am not convinced,

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    I agree with Robert Butler's comments on the video. Not only that but the poster only joined YouTube four days ago, and that's his/her only content. It's the equivalent of getting n supposedly great deal on eBay from someone with no other items listed and no reviews.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smfr View Post
    Hi
    Finally we have the audio of "the tape" but without final part:
    https://youtu.be/d2bUd2HCqHI
    Yeah, I don't think so.

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    The video has been made private guess they realized that they couldn't pull the wool over people's eyes

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    She/He added the new one with transcription:

    https://youtu.be/AI5sKdaUCsc

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    They are claiming that it was recorded on a cassette tape, I still say fake unless they release the whole thing, as she goes right into her blood and guts speech.

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    Fake as fudge.

    "Please do not request me to release the rest of the tape" = bait from an attention whore.

    If anyone had access, the footage would be all over the place by now.

    Bet, if you asked that guy the right way, he'd say he had the Pizza Hut outtake from Poltergeist, the fabled poolside footage from Ferris Bueller AND the Dick Cavett Rodale show.

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    also they are claiming that after Christine finished the story she went into the blood and guts speech, actually the tape jammed and while the newsroom guys were trying to fix it, she said I'll just read something I prepared then, and went into her blood and guts speech, she didn't get to finish the newscast.

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    The names mentioned toward the end of the video with the incident at the Beef & Bottle all check out. Orlando Sentinel has the same names and incident written about and pictured two days later. Easy to research and fake I guess, but it's a level of detail I wouldn't have thought it'd have so you never know. Currently more convincing than the previous video!

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    I am still calling fake on this one, there are no background noises, if this person were recording it onto a cassette tape, according to the poster the person told them they were recording it before they left for work so they could listen to it on the way there, I highly doubt that story, there would have been background noises under the news recording, ie dogs barking, someone moving around, cars passing by and other noises, having lived into the generation of recording onto a cassette tape from a tv or radio I rarely ever got a song or something not to have another noise included. Also cassette tapes and players were very expensive back then and not many people had them, you have to remember this was the generation of the 8 track which didn't phase out until 1982 when tape players and tape machines became affordable and cassette players were not put into cars until 68 and still were expensive, so they didn't become mainstream until about mid 70s.
    Last edited by pkstracy; 03-09-2021 at 06:12 PM.

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    I agree with Tracy. The person who made it might as well have said the tape was autographed by Chubbuck too.
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    Wow this thing is still going. Guess I got some catching up to do.
    A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another.

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    Lots of new fake videos and sound recordings out there, Ichles.
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    Guys. Normally, I would jump in and say fake, but the voice sounds awful close to the few clips we've seen. I....think it might be real; I'm not kidding.

    I'm going to repost this video: https://vimeo.com/190367794?fbclid=I...3aZYfSg0K6o37g

    Listen to her voice in that clip and then listen to the audio. It's identical.

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    The voice sounds more "Southern" to me, plus a few stammers and pauses whereas the real Christine sounds more fluid in her delivery to me.

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    Exactly CWC its fake

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    He/She has re uploaded it this morning with the "full audio" i.e. her final monologue and a gun shot. It is only 2 minutes long. I have to admit that it sounds pretty convincing but I thought she was on for 8 minutes that morning, doing some state and national before going into local stories.


    There is a very convenient audio defect before "Christine" starts with "This weekend being the typical of the recent rash of violence..." Can anyone make anything out of the noise before that line? To me it sounds like a different female voice speaking like possibly segueing into "Christine's" part of the show.

    If this person who made the video were to post her entire piece I would be more likely to believe its authenticity. The locals stories check out but it would be considerably more difficult to fudge national news without someone who was there calling b.s.

    Here is a link that also says that she was on for about 8 minutes before she did what she did.

    https://whenwordsmatter.typepad.com/...t-blood-a.html


    It sounds real but I don't think it is.

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    The person made their videos private, I'll have to look it up but another person said that they compared her voice to the tape and it sounds like her. Damndirtyape, if you can put a link to the new uploaded video, that would be great as the ones here in the thread as I said they made private.

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    Pmed you! Ill be curious to know what you think

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    Michael,
    I have my doubts the ending after she shoots herself, does not sound like what I remember hearing or seeing she slumped and then slid out of her chair also at the end the person recording it would have said "oh my God or did you see that?" or some kind of shocked response, not a flat wow...even the loader is saying they have their doubts as well.

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    Got your message about the new recording Michael, but I'm short on time. Just checking moderation stuff. I'm not gonna open it yet, so it'll show as a new message when I do have some time to give it a few listens using a variety of sound isolation software. I'm sure you're familiar with that type of software. For those who arent, it's the same stuff used by producers to layer voices with instrumentals during the recording process.
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    I know what you’re talking about! Report back if you notice anything fishy.

    If this person who made the video were to post her entire piece I would be more likely to believe its authenticity. The locals stories check out but it would be considerably more difficult to fudge national news without someone who was there calling b.s.

    Here is a link that also says that she was on for about 8 minutes before she did what she did.
    I wondered the same thing. This post may mean nothing if SomeChick is about to pick up something indicating fakery but I don't think that will happen.

    I don't buy the "someone was recording the tv to listen later" explantion. I think that's an attempt to shield against a possible lawsuit because of a supposed injunction that was put in place. I remember years ago in this thread someone tried to find proof that an injunction was even put in place to begin with and they came up empty handed. So all this "injunction" talk maybe a lot of hot air.

    Anyway, the reason that this isn't the full eight minutes of that broadcast is due to the fact that it is likely this audio isn't sourced from a Live Broadcast or the original tape. It's possible that it's surviving audio from the copies that were made afterward by the station director. Years ago, someone contacted a former WXLT employee (he appeared on that E! Documentary about Chrstine in 2007) last name was Rickard and he claimed that copies were made but eventually destroyed in the 80s. The creation of copies is also mentioned in this quote from the New Yorker from 2016:

    "On the day Chubbuck killed herself, Smitty got a call. “I went down and I saw the tape. I’ll never forget—our program director was dubbing version after version. And we’re going, ‘What are you doing?’ And he’s saying, ‘Everybody’s gonna want this, CBS, NBC, they’re all gonna want it.’ We’re like, ‘You can’t show this shit! This is horrible.’ So the family got involved, and the owner put a clamp on it.”

    www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/a-shocking-suicide-a-long-lost-friend-and-a-movie-trailer
    Would that stations mentioned in that quote, NBC or CNN, need eight minutes from that broadcast when they're just going to cut it down to the speech and then the suicide? I'm sure making copies of that two inch tape was difficult even when all of the equipment was readily available. So it's possible a descision was made, in order to save time, copy the last couple of minutes, rather than all eight. Or it could've just come down to conserving tape, possibly.

    Also, for anyone curious, there's an ongoing thread over at Lost Media Wiki Forums with some interesting insights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pkstracy View Post
    The person made their videos private, I'll have to look it up but another person said that they compared her voice to the tape and it sounds like her. Damndirtyape, if you can put a link to the new uploaded video, that would be great as the ones here in the thread as I said they made private.
    Here is the video before it was made private. This is not the complete version though.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20210402...?v=AI5sKdaUCsc

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    And this is allegedly the complete version.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wESWGLoJQzw

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    All fake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SomeChick View Post
    All fake.
    Did you notice something in the isolation software you mentioned that pointed in that direction?

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    It's been a long time since I have posted on the forums but I ran across this tonight. I don't have time to research its authenticity and I hope I'm not posting a duplicate of this link that someone else has already posted, but wanted to get it on here asap.

    https://archive.org/details/youtube-ph7oHWONq0c

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    This one is a fake. Its already been discussed earlier in the thread...

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    Hey Michael
    Could you confirm this:
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    I saw this pop up recently on Reddit..I’m skeptical.
    It looks like her, it matches the description of what she was wearing (black and white checked dress), and I seem to remember a description of her hand down at her side (holding the gun)...no video has surfaced to match the image.

    Also she was said to be filmed in a tight close-up as this all went down according to someone who was actually there. I’m not sure if he meant throughout every second of the broadcast or just the shooting. This discrepancy is why I’m skeptical.

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    That video has proven to be fake awhile back.

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    That's not the same black and white video we've all seen. The still image surfaced on 5/13/2021 on archive.org. The video however is "private". https://archive.org/details/httpsyoutu.becdaftdgv8gc

    In the comment section:
    The title of this image contains a YouTube link, but the formatting has been changed to all lowercase. We were able to brute force the correct link on the LMW Discord (props to RNO for being the one to find the correct link), but the video is privated

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdafTdGV8gc

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    That's cheap, fake and fakely colored with De-Oldify software, which employs blobs of blue and orange to vaguely give an illusion of color. Plus the set isn't lit. None of the real clips are in the dark and filmed a half-mile back from the desk.

    Kinda cute, too, the PTB of the alleged Lost Media Wiki "decided" that this topic was no longer to be pursued.
    Interesting operating model for them, too:
    -Build website dedicated to discussing lost media
    -Have people discuss/tease about lost media
    -Develop "feels" and disingenuous scruples about certain lost media involving famous on-air suicide
    -Insult people who want to talk about lost media
    -Close topic about lost media and, again, insult participants
    -Continue to solicit donations to keep discussion forum going

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    https://youtu.be/08HPX7mau2c

    This video does a break down of the two video/audio leaks. They pointed out certain things that took me a little by surprise. If the audio is real (personally I think it is) this video hints at the likely source of the leak. A copy was given to the police. The open air recording can probably be traced to the police department. They probably recorded themselves viewing the tape in order to write the transcript for their police report.

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    The link I posted back in April is broken, but this link should work. It is the audio leak mentioned in the previous post. Viewer discretion is advised.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20210710...?v=wESWGLoJQzw

    Edit: If that link doesn't work try this one:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJmO3TcA-Ug

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    Not sure if anyone has seen/heard this but skip to 26:34 and then listen. This is supposed to have been discovered as of 5 days ago.

    https://youtu.be/KZbzIf_C6Y4

    This was located as well as the infamous Wicked Witch On Sesame Street episode (which btw I won't link you can search for that)

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    Quote Originally Posted by bustakita View Post
    Not sure if anyone has seen/heard this but skip to 26:34 and then listen. This is supposed to have been discovered as of 5 days ago.

    https://youtu.be/KZbzIf_C6Y4

    This was located as well as the infamous Wicked Witch On Sesame Street episode (which btw I won't link you can search for that)
    This is the same audio from the video that we keep debating if its real or not. The Audio was discovered in 2021

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    I'm 99.9 percent certain that audio is real. I talked to someone who said they had confirmed with the station owner's late wife that the video still existed prior to it being made public. They are a chief curator of classic television and he seemed quite certain it is authentic. I don't know why I never thought of this, but the audio was likely created for transcription purposes.

    This video explains the likely origins of the audiotape in question:

    https://youtu.be/08HPX7mau2c?t=381

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael555 View Post
    I'm 99.9 percent certain that audio is real. I talked to someone who said they had confirmed with the station owner's late wife that the video still existed prior to it being made public. They are a chief curator of classic television and he seemed quite certain it is authentic. I don't know why I never thought of this, but the audio was likely created for transcription purposes.

    This video explains the likely origins of the audiotape in question:

    https://youtu.be/08HPX7mau2c?t=381
    This Video shows us nothing of the suicide of her.
    Carolyn(1958-2009) always in my heart.

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    Nothing new here......

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    Quote Originally Posted by smfr View Post
    I saw it the other day and assumed it was 'the' tape for a moment but it isn't. It's a full episode of Suncoast Digest that she presented and the uploader got it from someone who also put it on his page. No one seems to know when it was filmed though.

    The uploader...tapesignal also has a tumblr about Christine. Their aim is to try and fill in blanks, humanize her and show she was more than just her death.

    https://tapesignal.tumblr.com/

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