Freddie Gray dies from spinal injury at the hands of cops

[cindyt]

Hmmmm... that doesn't make a lot of sense. If he had open back surgery, he would barely be walking around, and doing that in a hospital. Even minimally invasive back surgery requires at least 2 weeks recovery... these reports don't add up. You don't have any kind of back surgery, and are up and around, perfectly fine, in a week or less.

Word.

[Mcafgr]

WOW!!!! I knew from the Mike Brown thread what time it is in here. So he intentionally crushed his Larynx and severed his own spinal cord 80%
In case you all haven't heard from Stormfront he had a broken leg before he got in the van. I guess he did that as well.


This young man was doing nothing for the cops to stop him from the get besides walking while Black.

That's all he did.

Now your dragging his grieving Mother down the tubes as well.

This board reminds of Stormfront which I'm sure you all are frequent often.

I'm not saying everybody is racist.....But it is here in full form.

Peace.

So when you say that all of us frequent Storm****t, are you saying we are all national socialists or just plain old Nazi's? Maybe a few Aryan Nation members? I take huge offense towards you even mentioning that other website in the presence of such fine individuals that are here on findadeath. Honestly, you would never be able to say that to my face. Racism?......no....difference of opinion ....yes.

I also would suggest an apology to me, and everyone else on this fine forum.

[RiotBoots]

I'm calling bullshit on him trying to injure himself in the van. The other prisoner couldn't even see him. Every time this kind of thing happens, no matter the evidence. People will go out of their way to blame the victim and drudge up his past. True fucking colors.

[cindyt]

Folks, please do not quote posts that break the rules. Report them so that the staff can take action.

[TheDude]

I'm not buying the whole he did it to himself rumor, like seriously what good would it bring that he severed his own spinal cord? I doubt anyone would want to severely injure oneself unless you are batshit crazy.

But people do die of prior conditions and injuries all the time. Look how many people have simply bumped their heads to 5 days later unexpectedly die from it.

If it happened that way with the cops aggravating a previous spinal cord injury then that is what happened. Thinking differently doesn't make you a racist.

[Paulination]

Two things come to mind as we continually go through case after case of this: the common denominator is resisting arrest and body cameras should be on every cop.

[Aviatrix]

Were the autopsy reports supposed to be made available to the public?

[Slick SKillet Mayhand]

It's a little tough wading thru all that's been written on this case, but do we have any reliable info on the exact nature of his injuries other than the family's attorney, like from an actual medical professional? I'm not trying to excuse or absolve the cops, because so far it certainly doesn't look good for them, but the '80% spinal cord severed' keeps being repeated as though it's fact.

[Tiffany]

I'm not buying the whole he did it to himself rumor, like seriously what good would it bring that he severed his own spinal cord? I doubt anyone would want to severely injure oneself unless you are batshit crazy.

But people do die of prior conditions and injuries all the time. Look how many people have simply bumped their heads to 5 days later unexpectedly die from it.

If it happened that way with the cops aggravating a previous spinal cord injury then that is what happened. Thinking differently doesn't make you a racist.

He could have very well had surgery 2 weeks or 1 month ago..... he could have done anything to himself that he knew would cause a painful experience. Like walking around the streets first of all after surgery. And with a weapon nonetheless. No cops should be charged

[RiotBoots]

Hahaa.. Jesus Christ.

[cash]

preliminary medical examiners report

http://www.wjla.com/articles/2015/04...-him-prob.html

[RiotBoots]

I just can't get over how much pain he looked like he was in and his feet dangling as they were dragging him to the van.

[cleanskull]

I just can't get over how much pain he looked like he was in and his feet dangling as they were dragging him to the van.

There is a need to establish a point that if the perp is secured and is showing signs of medical stress that he is lain down, not moved and call an EMT. Too much damage can be down by moving someone that has a fracture or many other medical emergencies. Maybe work on securing limbs and not everybody piling on the main body mass.

[RiotBoots]

Agreed.

[cash]

prosecutor's statement - I wish her all the best

http://www.stattorney.org/media-cent...-investigation

[McCourt]

I hope we get answers.

[cindyt]

There is a need to establish a point that if the perp is secured and is showing signs of medical stress that he is lain down, not moved and call an EMT. Too much damage can be down by moving someone that has a fracture or many other medical emergencies. Maybe work on securing limbs and not everybody piling on the main body mass.

Word.

[MCghoul38]

[QUOTE=Mcafgr;1496514]So when you say that all of us frequent Storm****t, are you saying we are all national socialists or just plain old Nazi's? Maybe a few Aryan Nation members? I take huge offense towards you even mentioning that other website in the presence of such fine individuals that are here on findadeath. Honestly, you would never be able to say that to my face. Racism?......no....difference of opinion ....yes.

I also would suggest an apology to me, and everyone else on this fine forum.[/QUOTE
Look I read the Mike Brown thread which sickened me, young man dead shot all the Hell up and Damn near that thread was LOLing about that thug needing to be shot. That's what I read and truly was amazed. Not saying everybody Loled but that was the jest of the thread. Now this young brother once again has killed himself and his Mother was a dope fiend. All officers involved on payed leave once again while the Good Ole Boy's are trying like hell to come up with some type of reason of how this young man ended up with a crushed larynx and an 80% broken neck. Well he is a thug and that's the way it goes if you black in this great country built on the backs of Blacks. 1st thing the good ole boys do is look for sound reasons to call the victim out on HIS OWN Death.
I would suggest an apology to the young mans Mother.....Dig it.
This country is all FUed up for anybody that is not YT and that's a fact.

I didn't say everybody now did I.
Peace

[cindyt]

MCghoul38, Rule 4 states that anyone in the news is fair game, but our members are not. I suggest you read FAQ, and ignore comments you don't like, put the poster on your Ignore List, or join another forum that is more to your liking--as a matter of a fact, google "create your own free forum," if you get my drift.

[cindyt]

BALTIMORE — Baltimore's top prosecutor announced criminal charges Friday against all six officers suspended after a man suffered a fatal spinal injury in police custody, saying "no one is above the law."


"Mr. Gray's death was a homicide," State's Attorney Marilyn Mosby declared. His arrest was illegal and his treatment in custody amounted to murder and manslaughter, she said.

http://www.ajc.com/ap/ap/us/scant-de...protest/nk6zq/

Apparently, they illegally arrested him, cuffed him and put leg manacles on and put him in the police wagon unrestrained. Poor guy.

[Maxster]

"Mr. Gray's death was a homicide," State's Attorney Marilyn Mosby declared. His arrest was illegal and his treatment in custody amounted to murder and manslaughter, she said.

It's good to see that police brutality can be prosecuted, however belatedly.

[Mcafgr]

I hope they prosecute them to the fullest extent. How people can act like this in modern day America is beyond me.

[endsleigh03]

When you see him going into the van, he is already injured. Maybe the lack of being seat belted in caused him to get knocked all over. If he was too weak (and shackled?) to shore himself up against being thrown around during the drive......

Whatever it was, the cops didn't handle it right, or do what they should have.

[Paulination]

So it turns out he was shackled and laying on his stomach with his head facing the back of the van with no kind of seat belt. Easy to see what happens next, the van accelerates and he slides to the back and gets his head jammed. You know, the only experience I have with the polices is what I see on COPS but I'm starting to thing in reality it is much different (hello Capt Obvious).

[cash]

Just watched the Mosby news conference - reminded me of Angela Corrie re: George Zimmerman. Zimmerman was overcharged and the prosecution was more political than legal. Remember there are huge demos planned for Baltimore this weekend. The business community wants the curfew lifted. Just seems strange that theses charges are announced on a Friday afternoon. It's still early in this case. Remember medical homicide and legal homicide are not the same thing.

[Bidmor]

With local police forces increasingly becoming militarized..jack-booted, if you will...the charges against those cops don't really surprise me. Sure, there are "good cops" but their numbers are dwindling. And blacks are far from the only race these thugs in uniform harass and beat.

[Aviatrix]

Why does this development not surprise me? Hopefully this will put nationwide police policies under the microscope.

[cash]

the charged are three black and three white.

[gottaqhfilly]

School buses don't have seat belts.

[cindyt]

School children aren't cuffed and put in leg manacles before boarding.

[TheDude]

the charged are three black and three white.

It's good to know that it wasn't just a bunch of whites and that members of his own race were involved in the savagery that went on in the Police van.

Now if only the media and most of the internet would stop generalizing the white race, we aren't getting no where when we are divided. Who benefits from this? The race baiting media, the crooked politicians who will use this to drum up support.

[cleanskull]

Some folks would go bankrupt if all the sudden we all behaved.

[TheDude]

Some folks would go bankrupt if all the sudden we all behaved.

Indeed put Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton on the top of that list.

[Tntina]

So it seems the back surgery was not true.

I will reserve judgement on the guilt of the officers until the evidence ie. autopsy report (the official one, not the one commissioned by the family's attorney) is made public.

I do think the SA needs to step aside and let a special prosecutor handle the case, considering her close ties to the Gray family attorney, among other things. The case needs to be handled in a method beyond reproach.

[TheDude]

Yes the back surgery was not true however the outcome remains the same. All white people are taking the blame for being white and somehow being related to the devils who did it to him. I can't even go on my Tumblr page without every other post being about white shaming or how much privilege whites have. Here's how the media usually spins this if its a Black on Black crime they don't even bat an eye, if its a White on White Crime it gets a small blurb about it on the paper and possible mention on the 5 o'clock news (or they spin it and make it out to be the most psycho crime of the century), If its a Black on White crime its like it hardly never happened, White on Black sound the alarm!!!! Alert the national press!!!! Lets start riots!!! Get angry and assume the white klansmen beat our 25 year old (Youth, Teen, Child) to death. It also goes to say that the only children that go missing and get the media attention are the children from upper white class families.


I feel like this video accurately represents most of America who are taken by the media trickery and just discovered 3 of the suspects were black.

[cleanskull]

Indeed put Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton on the top of that list.

Oh they are Dude, trust me.

[PiggyTx]

i have these few word/words. wahhhhhh

[DesertGypsy]

These same people who hate the poo'lice are helping enforce in the idea and testing of Martial Law. Which would destroy and bring down this country (which is what they want anyway).

(thanks, Cindyt)

[cindyt]

Isn't that Martial Law?

[Rosebud666]

These same people who hate the poo'lice are helping enforce in the idea and testing of Marshall Law. Which would destroy and bring down this country (which is what they want anyway).

Isn't that Martial Law?

I think the Marshall Law is the one that says Germans have to be eternally grateful to the US for the Marshall Plan. Hence the German Marshall Fund - do they still sponsor PBS programs?

[Upset]

According to this article, convictions are unlikely, and some feel Mosby rushed this process to calm the city down. If so, it may be a matter of do we want the riots now, or do we want them when the cops are acquitted.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/71969...ushpmg00000047

[jjropes23]

According to this article, convictions are unlikely, and some feel Mosby rushed this process to calm the city down. If so, it may be a matter of do we want the riots now, or do we want them when the cops are acquitted.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/71969...ushpmg00000047

From what I understand it's believed that the only reasons she actually filed was to stop the riots, to make her husband (city councilman up for re-election allegedly) look good, and she has supposed ties with the Gray family lawyer. She was clearly grand-standing and this is going to be a show-trial as said by Alan Dershowitz, but even the chief of police apparently said the same thing and wants her to recuse herself because of conflict of interest. Honestly I think they should have told the rioters that charges will not be pressed until they cut the crap because by going about it this way is kinda like telling people that if you riot and cause problems you'll get your way. Sad that it comes to that and having to treat adults like they are little children...

[cash]

From what I understand it's believed that the only reasons she actually filed was to stop the riots, to make her husband (city councilman up for re-election allegedly) look good, and she has supposed ties with the Gray family lawyer. She was clearly grand-standing and this is going to be a show-trial as said by Alan During (sp?), of whom is pretty left-leaning for the record, but even the chief of police apparently said the same thing and wants her to recuse herself because of conflict of interest. Honestly I think they should have told the rioters that charges will not be pressed until they cut the crap because by going about it this way is kinda like telling people that if you riot and cause problems you'll get your way. Sad that it comes to that and having to treat adults like they are little children...

Alan Dershowitz

[jjropes23]

Alan Dershowitz

Oops my bad, I completely misread the last name! Thanks for catching my mistake. Something else that I thought of is what exactly was Gray's arrest for anyway? I've heard a million different stories about what it was but with these things lately everything has to be taken with a grain of salt.

[Aviatrix]

I feel like this video accurately represents most of America who are taken by the media trickery and just discovered 3 of the suspects were black.

We've sunk to a new low with cat shaming. I guess they can all get together and derail any hope of this nation becoming as one by engaging in one big cat fight.

(Yes this was a tongue in cheek post)

[TheDude]

We've sunk to a new low with cat shaming. I guess they can all get together and derail any hope of this nation becoming as one by engaging in one big cat fight.

(Yes this was a tongue in cheek post)

Some Cats just can't and will never get along.

[Alexandra]

And.....Mr Obama voices his opinion on this today.

We have seen too many instances of what appears to be police officers interacting with individuals, primarily African-American, often poor, in ways that raise troubling questions. It comes up, it seems like, once a week now,"

http://news.yahoo.com/obama-too-many-troubling-police-interactions-blacks-172138496--politics.html


What about the Black on Black crime figures Mr President?......what about the Black on white crimes Mr President? What about a group that represents 13% of the population commit 71% of all violent crimes in this country?

We have all seen the statistics. I am just sick and tired of all of this political correct bs. And that is what this statement represents.

Here are the facts.

Based on that data, the FBI reported that roughly 49 percent of those killed by officers from May 2013 to April 2015 were white, while 30 percent were black. He also found that 19 percent were Hispanic and 2 percent were Asian and other races.

Where is the presidents outrage for the white guy gunned down last week in Orlando? This guy is making matters worse by bringing race into this discussion. It should be about the civil rights of ALL Americans. Not just the people that you relate to.

This makes me LIVID!

Call this situation in Baltimore what it is. It is an excuse to loot, pillage and destroy based on assumptions that no one knows are correct. Breaking into the CVS, looting the store and pharmacy, then burning it to the ground is what kind of protest? Hell the mayor gave them permission to destroy. Literally. Then she back tracks and says the media is lying. She said it on national television.

And the biggest fact from the FBI:

On a per-capita basis, blacks commit 50 times more violent crimes than Whites. Some 27 million nonviolent crimes were committed in the U.S. in 1992 alone. 31% of the robberies involved Black offenders and White victims; only 2% involved White offenders and Black victims.

Sorry if this offends my fellow death hags, and if it out of line to forum rules, I will delete. But this is just getting nuts. I apologize in advance.

And folks wonder why I am armed ALL the time.

I read/post on American Renaissance so I'm not offended by that at all. LOL

On a more serious note...more than 90% of blacks killed...it's done by other blacks. They don't seem to believe that black lives matter!

I believe that *all* lives matter...but if you choose to throw it away....

[Aviatrix]

It's good to know that it wasn't just a bunch of whites and that members of his own race were involved in the savagery that went on in the Police van.

Now if only the media and most of the internet would stop generalizing the white race, we aren't getting no where when we are divided. Who benefits from this? The race baiting media, the crooked politicians who will use this to drum up support.

Word on this as well.

[cash]

so the prosecutor charged the wrong Alicia White and the wrong Brian Rice.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/marilyn-m...anel-piles-on/

the knife may have been illegal

http://www.mediaite.com/online/offic...ity-of-arrest/

[cash]

crime is on the rise in Baltimore - well done.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/mar...521-story.html