Crimes That Most People Have Never Heard Of

[attackatdawn]

I grew up on a farm close to Ruthton, Minnesota, nothing much ever happened there but In 1983, two bankers were murdered on a secluded Minnesota farm. Their deaths and the lives of their troubled killers shocked the small town of Ruthton and became a disputed national symbol for the farm crisis of the early 1980s. The story was broadcasted on City Confidential and made all the newspapers. I guess it put Ruthon on the map and in the spotlight.

[joplinfrk]

I was living in Phoenix when the Phoenix sniper and the Baseline rapist were doing there thing. I WASN'T there when that woman died at the Phoenix airport. You know what they say about Phoenix....go there on vacation, leave on probation.

[candleinthewind]

I was living in Albuquerque in 1996 when the Hollywood Video Store murders happened. Two people were convicted of killing 5 people in a robbery/murder. The whole city was in shock and everyone was creeped out about it. I don't know what Albuquerque is like now, but at the time, things like this were rare. It got national coverage, mostly I think because one of the murderers was a woman, which seemed surprising.

Well you know what they say about Albuquerque. It's the domestic violence capital of the United States. I met more many battered wives in my day to day travels than you would believe.

[jesska_812]

I was only 1 but Martha Moxley was murdered not too far from me, presumably by Michael Skakel.

[kimmer927]

i had just moved to Ft.Worth when the T.Cullen Davis murders happened where he "allegedly" tried to kill Priscilla Davis in 1975 and ended up killing her date, a basketball player from TCU and her daughter, his stepdaughter that same night in August. Later i worked at a car wash next door to Priscilla's ex-husband Jack and met their son Jack who was my age. he would never speak of T.Cullen. It's still considered "unsolved" to this day. I heard Priscilla passed a few years ago, but there was a movie made about it in the late 80's starring Heather Locklear as Priscilla. Creeped me out and still does to this day to drive by that house. it tried to be a restaurant some years ago, but i heard / read it's haunted and no one wanted to eat there. check it out.

[GracePBryant]

I knew the Hillside Stranger - Ken Biancci - but at the time I had no idea he was a serial killer - I was 20.

[Lifeisafataldisease]

I lived close by to one of Australia's most famous murder victims Anita Cobby.
I fact I do have a connection to the murder. In the book written by her father Garry Lynch, "Someone Else's Daughter", it was mentioned thata few years prior to the murder one of her killers John Travers had stolen pigs from a local highschool ag plot and tortured and killed them for pleasure.
Well those pigs were stolen from my highschool and I used to care for those pigs, every morning I would don overalls and huge gum boots and hose out their enclosure.
I was saddened to think that someone had stolen our pigs, I thought possibly to eat (even though thats what we were really raising them for ourselves.) I never thought they would have been connected to one of the countries and indeed the worlds most horriffic murders.

[norah]

I was living in Albuquerque in 1996 when the Hollywood Video Store murders happened. Two people were convicted of killing 5 people in a robbery/murder. The whole city was in shock and everyone was creeped out about it. I don't know what Albuquerque is like now, but at the time, things like this were rare. It got national coverage, mostly I think because one of the murderers was a woman, which seemed surprising.

Well you know what they say about Albuquerque. It's the domestic violence capital of the United States. I met more many battered wives in my day to day travels than you would believe.

I grew up in Albuquerque and definitely remember that.
It was one of the first times that hit kind of hard and really made me think about murders/death.

[Fool Moon]

Is there 1 murder incident from where you are from that made national news?

Here in DFW I heard some guy got shot while riding in a motorcade but I don't believe it.

[djdeath-hag]

Since I hail from the sweet sultry city of Tampa where nothing ever goes wrong....

-Terri Schiavo (see my thread about her)

-A gay bondage killer.....6 blocks away, along with an accomplice, killed 2 young men in his home in Dec. 2003 after luring them from a gay bar & drugging them with GHB. They've not yet been tried on murder charges but are both already been sentenced on the Federal charges of using the date-rape drug to commit felonies. My "gaybor" is serving 200 yrs., his buddy only got 40. I suspect that they will both eventually be tried on 1st degree murder & sentenced to death.
One victim was dismembered & disposed of in several dumpsters around town....the other one was bound & left in his abandoned vehicle...where he was discovered a couple of weeks later. There are other men who are missing & believed to have been murdered by Lorenzo & Schweickert. http://newzzz.crimezzz.net/?p=50#more-50

-In other local news....a story that has made it to Court TV, the Nov. 2004 murder of a young insurance adjustor, Katrina Anne Froeschle; their feature on Forensic Files was called "Muffled Cries" Her muder also took place within a few miles of our hood
http://www.courttv.com/onair/shows/forensicfiles/episodes/284.html

-My hubby moved down here from Milwaukee (home of the crimes of Jeffrey Dahmer) last December....he feels safer now....as do I!

[Harry in Connecticut]

I can only answer yes to this if the name Micheal Ross rings a bell. He was a serial killer in the area about 20 years ago. I really don't know if it made national news.

He was an insurance salesman. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Ross

[eca1094]

I knew the Hillside Stranger - Ken Biancci - but at the time I had no idea he was a serial killer - I was 20.

Wow how creepy was he a friend of yours did you ever think that something was not right with him

[Shes Not There]

Big City~Lots of high publicity murders. My only connection: Andrea Yates killed all five of her children on my birthday. Being a mother myself, this sickens me to share my birthday with the anniversary of the death of these innocent children. God Bless them...

[Moon Pie]

University of Mem football player was just killed here. I think the amount of crime here in Memphis has made national news.

[miz rosebud]

a very close family member smoked a joint with richard ramirez before he became known as the nightstalker.when he was on the loose.he wentthrough my husbands aunt yard when he was caught in east losangeles.creepy....

[cleanskull]

the murrah building bombing murderd 163 people,it made the news

[Nik]

Just up the road from me, yeah.

Maryann Measles. The story made Rolling Stone.

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSmid=45426922&GRid=8429199&

[Ron Burgundy]

Being from Los Angeles, specifically Van Nuys, we were host to some of the biggest.

But I vividly remember what it was like when the Manson Family did their thing. It threw a scare into LA that words couldn't possibly describe.

The Hillside Strangler
The Night Stalker
OJ

I could go on and on.....but none felt quite like the Tate/LaBianca slayings.

[Guest]

I lived in St, louis Mo, and 2 deaths of little girls happened. They made headlines everywhere and it took place 2 blocks from me. The sad part is, one case was solved and the other was not, 2 different murder's. Angie Houseman, who was abducted after getting off of school, was found tied to a tree where she was raped, and tortured, naked and died from exposure. The other child Cassidy Senter, was found in a ditch behind Shnucks < a grocery store > wrapped in a blanket. She was murdered by a neighbor. I know this made headline news cause I spoke with Angie Housemans mother in person.And Helped her look for her child. http://www.crimeandjustice.us/forums...ion/index.php?

http://remembrance.sugarbane.com/10yrmemorial.htm

[susalu]

Famous ones would be Columbine HS kids, and Jon Benet... Thousands of non-famous murders. Thank the lord, I have no personnel connection to any of them!

Susan

[ozgirl]

I don't know if it made the news anywhere else, but in Brisbane in the late 1980's there was a famous case where a group of three women killed a male cab driver by slashing his throat. They collected his blood and the ringleader - Tracey Wiggin, drank it claiming she was a vampire and it would increase her powers. They're all in jail now, of course so it obviously didn't help their powers that much.

I learnt about the murder on a recent graveyard tour I did of a local cemetary!

[Grimweeper]

We made national news in the sports world this week (Memphis). Taylor Bradford, a football player for our University of Memphis Tigers; was gunned down on campus after coming back from Tunica,Ms. with 7,000 dollars in casino winnings. Made national news also in that our city is number one in the nation in violent crime.

[Grimweeper]

University of Mem football player was just killed here. I think the amount of crime here in Memphis has made national news.

Hey neighbor,

[Cathy J.]

Here in Winchester, Virginia we had the infamous Lindsay Householder murder that took place back in 1986.

Lindsay was not only a month old when she was murdered by her own mother Kathy Householder by slamming a rock on her head.

The story goes, after she killed her daugher she drove to a department store in Winchester ( Nichols Discount City...long defunct ), ran into the store screaming that her baby was stolen.

Within no time all of the TV stations from Washington DC, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Richmond, Norfolk, and even one from Philadelphia came to Winchester hoping to find Lindsay.

A few days later Kathy Householder ( Lindsay's mom ) gave a press conference, crying "..please keep looking for my darling Lindsay". Well as soon as the camera wer off, Kathy started laughing and smoking. No one noticed but a local high school student who had a camcorder at the press conference taped Kathy doing these things. When the local police saw the tape, they became suspicious and had Kathy do a lie detector. Anyway she confessed to killing her daugher. Why? She was depressed and didnt want the child in the first place. Few days later some teenagers ( I also heard it was a police officer ) found Lindsay in a trash bag in the river.

Kathy got 2 years in prison I believe for that crime however a year later, she became pregnant while she was in jail thanks to a guard on duty.

After she left prison, no one knows whatever became of Kathy.

[leppchic]

I live about an hour from the mine tragedy in Elkview in WV. I took donuts and food up to the church where they were holding a vigil for the miners. I am sure you all know out of 12 only one survived. The whole media mess up about all of them being alive...only Randall survived. And he as some mental delays. But what a horrible mis communication. At least the one lived. How horrible to see his work buddies die one by one. It wa horrid

[SanDiegodeathhag19]

well the heaven's gate mass murders happened in my city, well in san diego, ca county

[dirk diggler]

I lived close by to one of Australia's most famous murder victims Anita Cobby.
I fact I do have a connection to the murder. In the book written by her father Garry Lynch, "Someone Else's Daughter", it was mentioned thata few years prior to the murder one of her killers John Travers had stolen pigs from a local highschool ag plot and tortured and killed them for pleasure.
Well those pigs were stolen from my highschool and I used to care for those pigs, every morning I would don overalls and huge gum boots and hose out their enclosure.
I was saddened to think that someone had stolen our pigs, I thought possibly to eat (even though thats what we were really raising them for ourselves.) I never thought they would have been connected to one of the countries and indeed the worlds most horriffic murders.

Yeah definitly one of Aus's worst crimes read the book as well very sad a Beautiful young lady innocent and good in every way a father's grief and then the other side of the coin five two bit dimestore criminals with no endearing qualities whatsoever who trawled the streets at night in Sydney's outer western suburbs looking for anyone or anything to satisfy their kicks..

[dirk diggler]

Hmm here's another that might have made the tabloids overseas.
The Milperra Massacre was the name of an incident which occurred on Father's Day September 1984, in Milperra, a suburb of Sydney, in which seven people were killed, including six motorcycle gang members and a young woman bystander.
Two heavily armed outlaw motorcycle gangs, known as the Comancheros and the Bandidos clashed in the carpark of the Viking Tavern during a motorcycle part swap meet. Seven people were killed and a number of others injured. Among the dead was a 14 year old girl. As a result of the massacre the New South Wales Firearms and Dangerous Weapons Act 1973 was subsequently amended. Commonwealth Games gold Medallist boxer Phillip McEliwain was the only motorcycle club member to be acquitted after the trial of both manslaughter and murder...



One the guys Convicted's family lived up the road from me i knew him casually and new his older brothers quite well his sister's boyfriend was the leader of one of the gangs and later hung himself in jail..I knew these guys when we were teenagers etc and they were good blokes then as the years went by I'd see them occasionaly on the Harleys in the club colours totally different men..

[JefeStone]

The tattoo shop where I work is about a 10 minute drive from where Scott and Laci Peterson house was. That is where he supposedly killed her. To tell you the truth I THINK he did it but there really wasnt enough evidence to give him the death penalty. Speculated motive. They dont even know how she died. The media buried him

[DeadRinger]

I grew up in the western suburbs of Sydney, not too far from the Anita Cobby scene. I remember that really rocked my mother, she was a nurse like Ms Cobby, and I think they were roughly the same age.

I also lived near Belanglo State Forest in NSW, where Ivan Milat picked up and then dumped his murder victims.

And as if that isn't enough, one of my friends (who was 31 at the time) was very likely murdered by Peter Dupas in 1993.

[neilmpenny]

I remember the Anita Cobby murder. What turned my stomach is what they did to her with the knife and barbed wire if I remember correctly.

A mate of mine worked with Ivan Milat on the road gang. What spooked him the most was not the fact that he was a serial killer but the fact that he was so normal. They worked together for quite a while and seemed like your average bloke. My mate was suspicious of everyone after that.

[knothere]

I knew the Hillside Stranger - Ken Biancci - but at the time I had no idea he was a serial killer - I was 20.

[Mr Chicken]

A woman was murdered in the park and raped and left in the bushes a man and his dog found her she had been strangled i think her name was susan and had only just moved here she made the mistake of befriending a local weirdo(we have many)he was jailed but under the mental health act it was an institution he was kept in.

[knothere]

we had the 8 dead Banditos biker slaughter thingy found on the country roads (the dirt ones) anything elese we get is from Toronto or Detroit which make our crime rate grow n grow we had our first drive by the other day........our first

[GODDESS6]

I was only 1 but Martha Moxley was murdered not too far from me, presumably by Michael Skakel.

i am so fascinated w/ the martha moxley case, i have tried to read/watch everything i could about her~

john joubert: executed child killer~ he was young around 20, an airforce private, the base is a mile from where i live now~ his boss lived next door to my stepma & dad while i lived w/ them~ we attended neighborhood bbq's w/ him while they were looking for him, we had no idea at the time that it was him~ he originated from maine where at 15 he commited his 1st murder of a young ricky stetson, that went unsolved until his case broke here~ he kidnapped & murdered two young boys, one a paper boy, danny joe eberle, the other boy christopher walden, who always got a ride to school, but this day his mom was running late & he lived only 2 blks from school, so he said he would walk, the one & only day he walked to school~ he was not the inteneded victim, the murderer had his sights set on someone else, a little girl, but she was absent that day~ he did not molest them~ the killer however, said in an interview that he mastubated frequently to his memory of the boys pleading for their lives~ he tortured, mutilated & murdered them & left them by the side of the road~ the second boy, christopher, my friends & i would always sneak outside for a smoke during highschool & we found christophers discarded clothes on school property~ john joubert was caught at a daycare a mile from me, the daycare teacher who called police, had a husband who was my german teacher in highschool~ john confessed after being caught, there was no trial, he was given the death sentence & it was carried out in 1996, i remember setting my alarm for midnight so i could get up & here the media say he was dead, dead, dead~ there is a good book about the crimes out there written by a local newscaster, who got to interview john & studied the case immensely~ it is called "a need to kill" by mark pettit http://www.amazon.com/Need-Kill-Mark...2278778&sr=8-1

i will never forget this, we were all so scared some maniac was gonna snatch us up, what a wicked, wicked beast

[dirk diggler]

Yeah Ivan Milat "The Backpacker Murderer" man what a nasty fiend that guy is he IS the devil!

[GODDESS6]

also teena brandon aka brandon teena, the girl who they made the academy award winning "boys don't cry" movie about is from my state, she grew up 50 miles from me in lincoln & was murdered in humbodlt nebraska about 40 miles from me~ teena & her rapist/murderer's both had mental evaluations in my hometown at points in their lives~ i was wrking at our newspaper during their trial & was close w/ the reporter who covered it~ she was killed horribly along w/ the girl, Lisa Lambert, whose house she was staying at, also there was another guy staying there w/ them, he was an amputee, phillip devine & also innocent victim~ the A & E docu about this is chilling, they show teena dead w/ her gunshot & stabbing wounds~ the killers left the lisa's baby in the crib unharmed~ one of the murdere's sang like acanary & he got life w/out parole & the other death~

[Moon Pie]

Hey neighbor,

Hey yourself!! Glad to have someone from Memphis on here! Pretty Cool!!

[JGrier]

In nearby Cleveland was the famous Sam Sheppard murder. Inspired The Fugitive T.V. series and movie.

[dovescry1999]

O.K.
I lived in San Francisco all of my young life. I was growing up in the Haight /Ashbury area (1269 Oka Street, to be exact) My brother and I used to hang around the Hippies, until my mother whipped our asses !
But
The Zodiac Killings,
The Zebra Killings (Black Muslims killing white people. We used to go to the Muslim bakery, becasue they made the BEst chocolate chip cookies !)
The People's Temple ( I lost two friends, when their families decided to go live in the fucking Jungle)
Moscone/Milk Assasinations ( George was the Handsomest politician I had ever met at the time)
All took place when I lived there...

Well, beside that. nothing I really remember (lol)

[dovescry1999]

Here in DFW I heard some guy got shot while riding in a motorcade but I don't believe it.

...
I heard about that romur. I heard he got hit with a suppository...

[dovescry1999]

I lived close by to one of Australia's most famous murder victims Anita Cobby.
I fact I do have a connection to the murder. In the book written by her father Garry Lynch, "Someone Else's Daughter", it was mentioned thata few years prior to the murder one of her killers John Travers had stolen pigs from a local highschool ag plot and tortured and killed them for pleasure.
Well those pigs were stolen from my highschool and I used to care for those pigs, every morning I would don overalls and huge gum boots and hose out their enclosure.
I was saddened to think that someone had stolen our pigs, I thought possibly to eat (even though thats what we were really raising them for ourselves.) I never thought they would have been connected to one of the countries and indeed the worlds most horriffic murders.

Can someone give me insight to this story ?

[Lobsters]

The tattoo shop where I work is about a 10 minute drive from where Scott and Laci Peterson house was. That is where he supposedly killed her. To tell you the truth I THINK he did it but there really wasnt enough evidence to give him the death penalty. Speculated motive. They dont even know how she died. The media buried him

Actually, he buried himself with his phone calls to his mistress but that is a whole 'nother thread.

I live just a few hours from Jonesboro, AR where one of the first big school shootings happened. Also in that area is the West Memphis 3 murder case. Three young boys, 8 years old, murdered and tossed into a ditch. 3 teenagers were accused and convicted based on no evidence and the fact that they were 'different' . Many thought they were satanists.

[connielouwho]

Here where I live there is a woman whose husband died of huntington's disease. Two of her sons were bedridden with the same disease in a nursing home. She did not want them to suffer the way their father did so she killed them both, at the same time. They were both in advance stages of the disease and may not have known what was happening to them. They charged her with assisted suicide because at a time before they both became bedridden, they had made a suicide pact but never went through with it. It was very heartbreaking. I cannot imagine what she had to go through and to make the decision to end their suffering. She served I believe three years and got probation. Now her surviving son has been diagnosed with the same disease. Because of the terms of her probation, she cannot be the caretaker of her son.
I know they had a show about this on Snapped on the Oxygen network and another show which I can't remember.

[Lifeisafataldisease]

http://www.thecrimeweb.com/murder_of_anita_cobby.htm

Try this link for an outline of theAnita Cobby murder.

Ivan Milat also lived at Blackett for a while, shacked up with some sheila, which is the same suburb as some of the murdrers of Anita cobby lived. I owned a house there once.

I have also read the book on the Milperra Bikie massacre, my grandmother is buried just a few graves away from Ivan "Sparrow" Romcheck, one of the massacre victims.

[candleinthewind]

http://www.thecrimeweb.com/murder_of_anita_cobby.htm

Try this link for an outline of theAnita Cobby murder.

Ivan Milat also lived at Blackett for a while, shacked up with some sheila, which is the same suburb as some of the murdrers of Anita cobby lived. I owned a house there once.

I have also read the book on the Milperra Bikie massacre, my grandmother is buried just a few graves away from Ivan "Sparrow" Romcheck, one of the massacre victims.

I read that link about Anita Cobby. How truly awful. I wonder how her family has been able to cope.

[SquirrelNutZipper]

People drop like flies here in Boston.

Right after I moved here there was a man in the suburbs who was furious with his wife for burning the spaghetti. He beheaded her in front of their three-year old and impaled her head on a stick in the backyard. He apparently took his meals seriously.

The latest is Neil Entwhistle. He alledgedly killed his wife and infant daughter in their home. He's going on trial next year. With the liberals in this state he'll be free to roam about with OJ in finding their wives' murderers.

[Spencemom]

Well,
I don't know if you would consider it a murder( I blame all those around her for not getting her the help she needs), but I live about 45 minutes away from the Hotel where Anna Nicole Smith died. I recently went there, but they changed the room number.
Nicky

[Lifeisafataldisease]

I read that link about Anita Cobby. How truly awful. I wonder how her family has been able to cope.

Her parents are amazing people , I beleive they are still alive, although a fair age now. I do have to apoligise "Someone Elses Daughter" was written by Julia Sheppard an Australian journalist. A great read.

"I could wish it was someone else's daughter but I can't, can I? They would then have to go through what we're going through." - Garry Lynch, Anita Cobby's father.

[Lisamarie]

I was living in tx when the yougurt shop murders happen, I was spending the night at friends house right down the street. I remeber hearing sirens..and the next morning we went to see the burnt out tcby shop...it was really awful..we met one of the cops who was one of the first on the scene and he told us he had seen allot of crime scenes but this was by far the very worst. He told my dad that no one would ever really know the extent of torture involved because it was too muchfor even the police..I know everything was burnt up..but he said there was definate tortue and the way the bodies were...I was too young to understand , but later on my dad became friends of the father of the two sisters and he was the nicest man..he would drive around in a pickup with huge pictures all over his truck of his beauitful daughters...so sad...also my mom went to school with a kid Russle Goudy jr who was murdered in 75 by a killer who was targeting young buys....anyway she passed him up hitchhiking and they were going to pick him up but someone stoped before them and this guy would later kill Russle..anyway two hikers foud his, nude mutalated body three days later , he had ciggarett burns all over is chest and his eye lid had been cut off police say the killer wanted him to see everyting. He had also been raped....this was in LA i 75 and still hauts my mom to this day she wished she would have picked him up. The weird thing is I dont thinki they ever found who did it and the parents just kept it quiet..my mom said tey wanted nothing to do with the investigation and I have looked and looked and have oly found one articel on this.....they had a murderer who was killing boys in Calie at that time and his tradmark was the cutting off the eye lid things I think this had to be the guy...also I lived about a block were a lady hung her two children and then herself...I watched them take pics and evertime the flash would go off you could see the shadow of her hanging...it was really creepy..they call the house hang house and they have tried and tried to sell it and no one stays..the longest anyone has stayed in that house was three months....they say its haunted.