The press needs to let these families grieve and bury their dead in privacy. We can mourn and grieve with them in our hearts but leave them alone.
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The press needs to let these families grieve and bury their dead in privacy. We can mourn and grieve with them in our hearts but leave them alone.
WOW! What kinda stupid question was that? Sounds like that one was scrapping the bottom of the barrel with that. What did the media person expect him to say? "Well so and so was wearing a I can't wait until Santa comes" Tee from Baby Gay while so and so was wearing a blue Ger-animals outfit..." I think I would have said "WTF kind of hilly-billy horse-shit kinda question is that?Originally Posted by SheeBee
Unbelievable. Just unbelievable!
And the stupidest thing to ever come out of a reporter's yap is "How do you feel about this?"
Does anyone in journalism have a brain these days? Morals? Integrity? Perspective?
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I haven't watched one second of coverage on TV. And after reading from all of you guys what has been going on with these so-called reporters, I'm glad I choose not to. It's like today's media has no tact or respect for the victims. Asking these poor kids stupid questions in order to find that teasing 5 second sound bite, before the commerical break, is beyond reprehensible. There are no more rules. They seem to cross every line that they used to not cross. Everyone, including traumatized children and parents, are fair game.
I can't even comprehend what any child must feel right now upon hearing what has been going on in CT or anywhere else when senseless acts of violence takes place in schools. Schools should be a safe haven for any child, like it was when I was going to elementary school back in the '60's and 70's. They only warning to us kids back then was stay away from strange men offering candy. And now we have this. I try to be optimistic, but fuck!
Cindy
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Sounds like the day after the Aurora shootings however in that case it was one or more of the following people had tried to place the blame on.........some I can see but the others......
*Lack of security at the Century movie theater
*the city of Denver
*the city of Aurora
*liberal pot laws in Colorado
*Republicans
*Democrats
*ObamaCare
*University of Colorado
*King Soopers Supermarkets ( rumor was Holmes had worked there...false )
*Slacker & Steve ( raunchy afternoon djs on Denver's Alice 105.9 FM )
*The Front Range Bears ( a local social club for gay men..rumor was Holmes was a member..false )
*KCNC-TV CBS 4 and KUSA 9 News ( whatever !! )
*The Denver Wrangler ( a local gay bar..rumor was Holmes was a regular...false )
*Adult Friendfinders ( an adult website..Holmes had a profile..this one I believe was true )
*mental illness
*movie violence
*guns
*lack of morals
yeah you are right..people want to find something out there to blame of this recent tragic event.
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Oh and it only gets better! Here's how the shooter Father found out about it.. thanks again to the vulture's in the media!
"Hours after the shooting Friday, a reporter with the Stamford Advocate found Peter Lanza as he pulled his blue Mini Cooper into his driveway in Stamford, Connecticut.Peter Lanza was apparently unaware that his son was behind the school massacre and his ex-wife had been killed, the newspaper reported.
Peter Lanza told the reporter, "Is there something I can do for you?" and then declined to comment upon being told of his family's involvement in the shooting, the newspaper reported."
This is from CNN... keeping it classy!
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I believe WBC's claims are not that the children did anything wrong but that this is punishment for all of us from God because we accept things like homosexuality and other "sins".
Its that me me me thing. Only thinking of how it relates to her instead of focusing on the true victims.
That is so fucking stupid.
I wonder if it would matter to the WBC's that it was statistically possible 2 of the kids may have been gay?
Despicable people
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I am just crushed. I cried yesterday and many others at work at just as sad. just unfathomable.
They talked to one parent who's children were ok, and he said his children don't want to go back to school. I wonder if they will close it, or re-open it like some other schools have done? I know it's not the schools fault, but who could handle walking in there everyday knowing what happened there, you'd be reminded daily of it.
I thought it was "This is what happens to children of gay parents". Whatever their reason, they just need to stay the fuck home and leave these poor people alone. Of course, being the attention whores they are, they have to make any tragedy they can find all about them.I wonder if it would matter to the WBC's that it was statistically possible 2 of the kids may have been gay?
Despicable people
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No doubt that a lot of the Phelps' klan is gay. Have you seen some of the older women? And papa Phelps himself? They are just publicity whores, who have been brainwashed by a closeted psychopath. I wouldn't want anything to happen to the children of the WBC, then I think about the God awful Shirley Phelps who I hate with a flaming (heh) passion, and I think that she was once a child who had to endure a young papa Phelps, and the stories are horrifying. Any shred of empathy I can ever have for them, is just to think of that, but trust me, it's a shred. I really am shocked that a distressed family member of one of their victims hasn't just sprayed the lot of them down, I really am. Anyone that knows anything about the WBC, knew they would be all over this situation. There will be a lot of people there to drown them out. Fuck them, and the attention they so desperately want. I will be pissed if any major news source grants them an interview though. Please don't.
By offing himself he saved the taxpayers thousands of dollars in court and prison costs. No doubt they'd have not put him to death for this. He'd stay in prison for decades while appeal after appeal was filed had hee done this in california.
I don't have any kids and most likely never will. So I can't even start to imagine what the parents of thoes little kids must be dealing with. Every day we face death. Accidents, illness, shootings , toxins, wild animals, death comes knocking by the choices we make in life or by pure fate that's been delt to us, now do we as people need to add school to the list ?
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I can't believe this horror of a person shot each child 3-11 times each .OMG ,those poor parents ......
You talkin' about the church or the media?
Sorry, I know it is no time for levity but it struck me as snigger worthy.
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I see absolutely no reason for this type of information being released right now either.
Maybe it's hearsay but if so, it shouldn't be repeated by the media.
I know...very heartbreaking.
I think this is one of those tragedies that would make the most hard-hearted person break into tears.
I do believe it was the Medical Examiner himself that put the information out there.
Because their deaths are homicides, their deaths are considered public information.
If their killer were still alive and there was a chance of a trial, I am quite certain that the number of gunshot wounds would not be public until the trial (then it would come out).
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Every last one of these recent massacres (Batman shooter in Colorado, Clackamas Town Center, VA Tech) have occurred in public places that openly boasted of being "gun free zones". They might as well have said "Hunting for Humans? Start Here". If 2nd Amendment supporters had "bought" Congress as you suggest, the corporate owned media would not be keeping the focus firmly on "gun control" as the problem. I have yet to see a hint that decades of indiscriminately prescribing psychotropic drugs for kids is frying their brains, but that's no shock when you see the FDA is run by the very industry it's supposed to be regulating. I could go on and on with how many federal agencies have been subjugated the same way.
As far as "only cops and military should own guns", the authorities never prevent these tragedies from happening; they just show up afterwards to make statements to the press. A million crimes each year are thwarted by people with legally owned firearms stopping criminals from committing their mayhem. But a pile of dead bodies is worth more to the gun control lobby than no news about preventing crime.
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I could have been an actor, but I wound up here.
I just have to look good, I don't have to be clear.
The reason a dog has so many friends is because he wags his tail instead of his tongue.
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I certainly hope they are photographs of when the children were alive. I saw a photograph of a teacher on tv. Young woman tried to save her little ones from the gunman. I also saw a photograph of one little girl. Cute as can be. Tragic that it is being reported that some of the children were shot 11 times.
The reason a dog has so many friends is because he wags his tail instead of his tongue.
Who said only cops and military should own guns? Wasn't me. I was referring to assault rifles. I think our elected officials as a whole are bought and sold by so many different entities.... and yeah, I'll agree drug makers are HIGH up there, and prescription drugs for this and that play a big role in these issues, as do several other things.
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That's right! The families have asked for their privacy.
The reason a dog has so many friends is because he wags his tail instead of his tongue.
He had issues with three adults at the school?... All of which he killed. Has anyone heard yet where his mother worked?
TURN OFF THE NEWS.......
Morgan Freeman's brilliant take on what happened yesterday :
"You want to know why. This may sound cynical, but here's why.
It's because of the way the media reports it. Flip on the news and watch how we treat the Batman theater shooter and the Oregon mall shooter like celebrities. Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris are household names, but do you know the name of a single *victim* of Columbine?
Disturbed people who would otherwise just off themselves in their basements see the news and want to top it by doing something worse, and going out in a memorable way. Why a grade school? Why children? Because he'll be remembered as a horrible monster, instead of a sad nobody.
CNN's article says that if the body count "holds up", this will rank as the second deadliest shooting behind Virginia Tech, as if statistics somehow make one shooting worse than another. Then they post a video interview of third-graders for all the details of what they saw and heard while the shootings were happening. Fox News has plastered the killer's face on all their reports for hours. Any articles or news stories yet that focus on the victims and ignore the killer's identity? None that I've seen yet. Because they don't sell. So congratulations, sensationalist media, you've just lit the fire for someone to top this and knock off a day care center or a maternity ward next.
You can help by forgetting you ever read this man's name, and remembering the name of at least one victim. You can help by donating to mental health research instead of pointing to gun control as the problem. You can help by turning off the news."
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That's the mystery. Where did the mother work? Some people out at the dog park today said that she was a retired teacher. I have no idea. So many conflicting reports.
The reason a dog has so many friends is because he wags his tail instead of his tongue.
I've always liked Morgan Freeman. I like him even more now. I agree with everything he said.
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I made this exact same argument to my wife today.
She seems young to be retired, and they lived in a wealthy neighborhood. Someone who knew her says, "she was a fan of guns"... And taught her kids how to shoot.
I can understand where Morgan Freeman is coming from, but this really has nothing to do with mental illness... It is pure evil. The irony is, they didn't even have his name right. I don't think notoriety is really going to matter when one of these people gets to the end of their rope and snaps. If someone wants to go out, and they want to take a bunch of people with them... They're going to find a way to do it.
Was it true about him carrying his brother's ID on him?
I really wish they would leave mental illness out of this... Being bipolar, being depressed does not cause someone to go out and kill people. And I don't know of anyone who is autistic even being capable of thinking about harming another person, let alone killing someone.
I liked him until I found out he was screwing his Granddaughter.
No shit?! Not that it would be any less disgusting, but is the granddaughter biological or step? That's just nasty. I like "Shawshank Redemption" Morgan, not child screwing Morgan. How old is the girl?
She is a step and in her late 20's. Although she is a step, her Grandmother was married to Morgan during her childhood and she was raised as his Granddaughter.
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I have yet to see a clear photo of the shooter. I've only seen two grainy photos of him as a kid.
"Everybody is born, and everybody dies. Being born wasn't so bad , was it?"
Peter the Hermit
I read somewhere that he wasn't in his high school yearbook and it said "too shy" where the photo would be.
That's because mom took him out of public school and home-schooled him. At least that's what I read, who knows though.
This is a blog I go to for bread recipes. Her grandson was a victim and he was a twin.
http://www.farine-mc.com/
Thanks for the reply, RyanOlivia. That is beyond disgusting.
Wasn't this guy's Mom a teacher in a public school, yet she homeschooled him? That is strange.
No more words can be said...
PurrPurr,
Thank you for sharing this. I agree totally. I hope the media gets their heads out of their ass and stops posting these killers names and faces everywhere. I was googling the news for updates, and the killers name came up with the word "celebrity" tagged to it. I wanted to vomit.
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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/15...ntcmp=trending
I'm not trying to take anything away from CT. Far from it. I've been shaken to the core by the massacre in CT and haven't slept since Thursday. We've had a moratorium on TV news both state and national. My SIL called and told us about the above story.
Last Thursday the people in Newton, CT would have never believed that a tragedy on such a magnitude could not have happened there. I'm sure that some STILL believe that it couldn't happen in their community because "This is XYZ City. This would never happen here because:
we're good people
not from large metro areas
we're in church Sunday
have great schools
have great school security
don't need school security
well off financially
nothing happens here
nothing COULD happen here
we're from a republican state
we're from a democratic state
we make our own food without chemicals
and again, on and on.
I ask those who still believe that to reconsider.
The school above is in Bartesville, OK. It's a sleepy community of 20,000 an hour north of Tulsa in which nothing really happens. My husband and SIL are from this community and attended the above mentioned high school and know this city so well. Last Wednesday they never thought that tragedies, dark students, or anything would motivate students to plan such scathing events; however, Thursday they discovered they were so CLOSE to this happening. Police arrested a kid who was ACTIVELY planning such an attack. In addition to the above reporting, local stations have been informed that an 18-year-old student was planning to chain the doors shut and have bombs ready to trigger when police tried to open the door, he was recruiting students to assist in his plan, and had attained enough firepower to decimate several classes
I can hear people in denial saying, "This couldn't happen here because nothing would happen in BARTESVILLE, OK!" Well, I'm sure that the wonderful people of Newton, CT never thought it would happen there due to many of the attributes I listed above. Yet here we are mourning, grieving, and asking "why?" with them.
I'm so thankful that due to the work of a great police force in Bartesville, we aren't mourning two school shootings.
In Loving Memory of Timothy Houdek, October 22, 1969 - January 8, 2013
My awesome dad: Harry Houdek, September 8, 1933 - November 20, 2013
Words can't convey how much I miss you both. RIP with love.
The whole thing is awful. Even more so, as additional details emerge.
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About Adam Lanza's father, Peter--- told of the school shootings and the deaths of his son and his Ex by a roving reporter upon returning home from work... He and the former Nancy Parker, who both came from New Hampshire, were married for 28 years and divorced in 2009, so both boys came along quite some years after their marriage. He WAS paying his Ex what seems to simple poverty-stricken me an INSANE amount of alimony/child support which kept this homeschooling allegedly "rigid" mom in a huge expensive house with a lot of guns and their (obviously!) problematic younger son:
http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/15/us/con...ile/index.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...nt-killer.html
http://gothamist.com/2012/12/15/fath..._school_sh.php
It almost seems to me more will be learned about Adam BECAUSE he is dead than if he had lived, been arrested and put on trial, because it seems likely the guilt-tripped wealthy father would have hired expensive legal eagles and THAT would have put an end to any hope of useful answers, and then maybe he'd have ended up at a cushy mental hospital. Hate to think of ANYTHING cushy happening to this murderer--- better to reopen the former Fairfield Hill facility just a few miles away, and warehouse him in a dark room, just like the good old days there.
Another horrible random thought that came to me today, about all the interviewing of the child survivors: what if one of THEM, especially one the boys, gets some wild idea someday of emulating this situation for whatever murky reason? Having survived this (and escaping the carnage without actually seeing it) may have created an adventure scenario in some of their minds, particularly if any of them are similarly afflicted as Adam Lanza apparently was.
Last edited by Linnie; 12-15-2012 at 08:47 PM.
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Of course the Westboro people would have to get into it. The war in Iraq is mostly over, less service people are coming home in boxes, so there have been far less funerals to picket. They have nothing better to do, have nothing better to do than to preach hate and what better way to keep their name in the news than to picket innocent children's funeral.I wonder if it would matter to the WBC's that it was statistically possible 2 of the kids may have been gay?
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They have nothing to offer except their warped, hateful theological beliefs all grounded in Phelps demented mind. There are times that I wish for God to drop an isolated yet powerful tornado squarely on Phelps' compound. These people are Baptists in name only and don't reflect true Baptist theology.
In Loving Memory of Timothy Houdek, October 22, 1969 - January 8, 2013
My awesome dad: Harry Houdek, September 8, 1933 - November 20, 2013
Words can't convey how much I miss you both. RIP with love.
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Get outta town! Really? I know he was getting a divorce, but I hadn't heard he was pounding the posterpedic with his step-grand-daughter, that is all kinds of gross if it's true!
Nonetheless, what he stated is so true...
By my troth, I care not; a man can die but once; we owe God a death.... He that dies this year is quit for the next.
--William Shakespeare!
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I'm trying to understand this... so ... if a serial killer is out on the lose, the tvs would be turned off, news would be off..... wouldn't "turning off the news" just make this situation worse? How are we supposed to know about a serial killer????? Just wait for the next victims, but keep it all quiet because we don't want to scare anyone ????? That really does not do us any good but please explain.
And lets say we have an idea of who this serial killer is.....then what? We just follow him around??? Keep it quiet all because the town will get scared of a man who is taking lives...???
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This Robbie Parker guy is really getting on my nerves.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
"Do mind the pedestrian, Richard." - Hyacinth Bucket
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One of the commenters on one of the Links I posted claimed that Adam had been around the school just a few days earlier and there was an "altercation"--- yet this was never reported to the families of the children, nor was extra security hired, nor any of the staff armed or even warned. I hope this wasn't true, but usually the worst things ARE the true things. Which makes me wonder if the mother was shot when she discovered her son's dastardly plans? Plus an interesting coincidence that the majority of the victims were female; must have been a dream come true for someone who had already brutally eliminated the primary female in his miserable life.
P.S., I didn't want MY photo in the yearbook either. Not because of "too shy"--- more like "too ugly." Plus What a stupid thing to put in a yearbook, anyway.
Last edited by Linnie; 12-15-2012 at 10:37 PM.
Yeah the mom didn't work and apparently had homeschooled him because she didn't agree with the plans the school had for him,his curriculum I suppose. A family member of the Lanza's said the father left the mother very very wealthy after the divorce. This article had some interesting stuff from his former teacher about his apparent lack of feeling pain.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2308641.html
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pictures from the little angels were released...
there is also a Home video of victim Ana Marquez-Greene, 6, singing hymn with her brother. so sad...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-11-times.html
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