Which Crimes Or Events Obsess You?

[Shellie]

There was a case here in Edinburgh a few years back. A bookkeeper called Suzanne Pilley went missing from her work. After an investigation, her ex David Gilroy was questioned and eventually arrested after it was found out he and his wife lied about his whereabouts among other things.

From the evidence they have the police think he killed her in the basement of her workplace, wrapped her in a carpet then drove her up to Argyll as his car was spotted there. They know she is in the fores but unfortunately, that part of Scotland is huge so it would be impossible to pin point anything without him revealing where he buried her and since to this day he denies all knowledge, it doesn't look like it will happen.

He is currently serving life. The case was a big deal because firstly it was one of the rare times that they prosecuted without a body and also the sentencing portion of the trial was filmed and aired on TV as the public were so interested in the case which was seemingly a first.

They are hoping he will eventually reveal where he buried her just to give her family some sort of closure but I doubt it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Suzanne_Pilley

[Zoe_Zeppelin]

The execution of the Romanov family.

[suzycreamcheese1]

I'm sorry. I don't understand. How were they responsible?

Originally Posted by ichabodius
I thought butt rape terrified you most.

uh huh I guess nobody thinks you are funny.

[suzycreamcheese1]

I thought butt rape terrified you most.

uh huh I guess nobody thinks you are funny.

Manson Family Murders
The Boy In The Box
Little Miss Nobody

[cindyt]

uh huh I guess nobody thinks you are funny.

uh huh I guess nobody thinks you are funny.

I'm sorry. I don't understand. How were they responsible?

Manson Family Murders
The Boy In The Box
Little Miss Nobody

Combine these into one post, please.

[RiaBrown]

Manson Family Murders
The Boy In The Box
Little Miss Nobody

Boy in the Box fascinates me, too.

[suzycreamcheese1]

Combine these into one post, please.

nope feel free to delete

[Shellie]

Boy in the Box fascinates me, too.

The Boy In the box is one of the only cases that has kept with me through the years. For a while after I saw the photo, I kept picturing the poor little soul whenever I closed my eyes. It was the same when I saw the picture of Emmett Till after what those sons of bitches did to him.

[jerryvr]

I love to read about serial killers My favorites are BTK, Ed Gein and the Zodiac killer.

Also love the mystery surrounding D.B. Cooper

[Leasie]

The Clutter murders. I have been obsessed for years after reading In Cold Blood many years ago.

I am weird but I keep thinking what if.....what if Nancy had hid somewhere in the house.......jumped out the window......what if Herb had fought them...and I believe he would have fought a buzz saw if he knew what they were going to do to his family.

They could have walked away and let them live.

[RiaBrown]

Oooh, Ed Gein is another interesting one.

[Rosebud666]

JFK. It just occurred to me last night that I can't remember ever NOT knowing who he was. As a little kid, I used to get Martin Luther King, Jr. mixed up with Martin Luther, but I always knew who JFK was. That puts him in a very small league with Elvis, Jesus, Santa Claus, and maybe Ali.

Maybe that was a function of being born about 18 months after the assassination, when the Camelot legend was reaching full bloom. At age 7 I had my career all planned: join the navy, become a war hero, become an astronaut, marry a gorgeous woman, and then onward to martyrdom. How death haggish is that?

[TheWrath of MadelineKahn]

An update on 10-year-old Katherine Lyon and 12-year-old Sheila Lyon. They have two "persons of interest" and not only are the suspects related (uncle and nephew) but one is in prison for, wait for it, child sex offenses. I really hope this search locates the remains and the family gets some closure and no longer has to wonder if the girls are still alive.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/01/12/virginia-sheriff-new-evidence-prompts-forensic-dig-for-maryland-sisters-missing/?intcmp=latestnews

Indictment!!

"A convicted sex offender has been charged with the murder of two young Maryland sisters whose 1975 disappearance triggered one of the biggest police investigations in suburban Washington history, authorities said on Wednesday.

Lloyd Lee Welch, a former drifter and carnival worker, has been the focus of the 40-year investigation for two years, Maryland and Virginia authorities said."

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0PP25020150715

[Dulcinea]

Indictment!!

"A convicted sex offender has been charged with the murder of two young Maryland sisters whose 1975 disappearance triggered one of the biggest police investigations in suburban Washington history, authorities said on Wednesday.

Lloyd Lee Welch, a former drifter and carnival worker, has been the focus of the 40-year investigation for two years, Maryland and Virginia authorities said."

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0PP25020150715

I am about 20 minutes from Bedford, VA and this has been big news around here for quite a while. Glad they've seemingly solved it.

http://www.wset.com/story/29537350/u...n-sisters-case

[shipmatekate]

Indictment!!

"A convicted sex offender has been charged with the murder of two young Maryland sisters whose 1975 disappearance triggered one of the biggest police investigations in suburban Washington history, authorities said on Wednesday.

Lloyd Lee Welch, a former drifter and carnival worker, has been the focus of the 40-year investigation for two years, Maryland and Virginia authorities said."

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0PP25020150715

So glad they solved this!

[atomicbettie]

That's great!!!

Now that they figured out who Sharon Marshall was, I don't know what one obsesses me the most. I'd still love it if Franklin Delano Floyd would talk and lead them to Michael Hughes and the infant boy he took when he too Suzanne/Sharon. but I'm not gonna hold my breath. ..Maybe still the Zodiac. The Long Island Serial Killer is kind of interesting, but he seems to have really slowed down.

[Blue_Suede_Shoes]

Fire disasters, especially Our Lady of the Angels, Haunted Castle, the Hartford Circus Fire, and Collinwood. I've been extremely afraid of fires ever since I was a small child, and for some reason learning all I can about them gives me a sense of control.

I've also read a lot about the Paul Bernardo/Karla Homolka case because the victims were the same age group as the kids I work with so I feel a lot of empathy for them. I also would like to be able to fathom the mindset of a woman supporting a violent predator partner over a basic sense of humanity. (I've read about Charlene Gallego for the same reason.) They're terrible people and I'm sure I'll never actually understand them but I keep hoping to get a flicker of insight someday.

[LLC]

Fire disasters, especially Our Lady of the Angels, Haunted Castle, the Hartford Circus Fire, and Collinwood. I've been extremely afraid of fires ever since I was a small child, and for some reason learning all I can about them gives me a sense of control.

I've also read a lot about the Paul Bernardo/Karla Homolka case because the victims were the same age group as the kids I work with so I feel a lot of empathy for them. I also would like to be able to fathom the mindset of a woman supporting a violent predator partner over a basic sense of humanity. (I've read about Charlene Gallego for the same reason.) They're terrible people and I'm sure I'll never actually understand them but I keep hoping to get a flicker of insight someday.

The circus fire gets me too...

[mrcreepers]

sandy hook where no one died

[conescualo]

Zack Bowen

[pkstracy]

OLA, Collinwood, Hartford Circus, Iroquois Theater, Eastland sinking, Bath School Bombing, New London School explosion, Who killed the Grimes Sisters, and The Peters and Shussler(?) boys, boy in the box. Little Miss 1565, Who was the Zodiac? Who killed Elizabeth Short? Who killed Betsy Aardsma. To know who really, even if it was The Three, killed Chris, Stevie and Michael, and what happened to the Three missing women in Springfield and who did it, and who was Sharon Marshall? Those are the ones I am obsessed with.

[qulevergrrl]

I guess I'm really predictable:

Manson (I know so many crazy details due to my correspondence with Bobby Beausoleil and Ouish,I know it's creepy).

Karla Homolka

My new one is James Bulger!

[saturnine]

The execution of the Romanov family.

I recommend "The Fate of the Romanovs" by Penny Wilson and our own Greg King.

[Mcafgr]

I guess I'm really predictable:

Manson (I know so many crazy details due to my correspondence with Bobby Beausoleil and Ouish,I know it's creepy).

Karla Homolka

My new one is James Bulger!

You and me too sister........you nailed my top three!

[RiaBrown]

Not much has changed for me since I last posted in this thread. I'm still obsessed with:

The Black Dahlia
Sylvia Likens
The Boy in the Box
Richard Grissom (killer of three women in Overland Park, Kansas, which is not too far from where I live)
Bob Berdella
James Bulger
The Sexton family, the subjects of the book "House of Secrets." That obsession happened more recently as I reread the book.

[pkstracy]

I forgot to add the Villisca Ax murders, if anyone doesn't remember this, back in 1912 J.B. Moore, His wife, Sarah, their children Herman, Paul, Boyd and Katherine and two neighbor children, Lena and Ina Stillinger were all murdered by someone wielding an ax, the murder remains unsolved to this day.

[Tony Trout]

I've probably posted here what has interested me most but I'll post again since I'm sure it's changed:

JFK/RFK/MLK
Elvis's death
The Lynyrd Skynyrd plane crash
The Manson Murders
Princess Di's untimely death
Jimi Hendrix
SRV
Singer Jim Croce's plane crash
Rick Nelson's plane crash (even though it was proven that a faulty heater was the cause of the crash, and that Rick nor the band members were "free-basing" cocaine, by the time it hit the news, Rick's "all-American boy" image had been shattered. I've went back many times and read the story that Scott wrote on Rick and I find it a great read!! Good one, Scott!!)

The only ones of these that were "crimes" were the killings of both Kennedy brothers and MLK and the Manson murders - supposedly Elvis was on Manson's list of people he wanted dead - that's why, when he started performing live again in '69, Elvis took the death threats very seriously and played it to the hilt - going as far as carrying a four-shot Derringer in his boot onstage and having two ambulances called in with his blood type in case anything did happen - thank God, nothing did - but the deaths of the others I've mentioned were just tragic. SRV's life was taken barely minutes after the helicopter he was riding in got up in the air.

[cindyt]

Yeah, Tony, the JFK/RFK/MLK have always incited heartbreak and curiosity.

Silvia Likens is another. Actually, I read a fictionalization of it before I knew who it was based on, but, unlike the true story, the girl in the book survives.

Mary Little
JonBenét
The Black Dahlia
Arlis Perry

[Shellie]

Not much has changed for me since I last posted in this thread. I'm still obsessed with:

The Black Dahlia
Sylvia Likens
The Boy in the Box
Richard Grissom (killer of three women in Overland Park, Kansas, which is not too far from where I live)
Bob Berdella
James Bulger
The Sexton family, the subjects of the book "House of Secrets." That obsession happened more recently as I reread the book.

James Bulger has always stuck with me as well. I've watched a few programs about the case and seemingly, what they did was so sickening that most of it isn't mentioned on the shows. One I did watch had an interview with one of the detectives who arrested the two of them and he said that he had spent over 20 years dealing with the worst of the worst yet it was those two that managed to un-nerve him.

It's not something that will ever be forgotten but it's made worse by the fact that, that slime ball Venables keeps popping up every so often to show he hasn't changed and is still as fucked in the head as he always was. If he isn't having to get his identity changed once again then he is getting done for looking up child porn. Plus he actually blamed Denise (James' mother) for them doing it saying that she shouldn't have left him on his own.

[pkstracy]

Fire disasters, especially the Winecoff fire and OLA.

[Torious]

Most recently, the OJ case and Jonestown.

[atomicbettie]

Are you going to watch the new Barbara Walters show on ID about the OJ case? I'm not sure when it's on but in the commercial they show her asking Kato if he thinks OJ did it and he says "I know he's guilty" or similar but I am curious to watch and see if the commercial is doing some creative editing and that was his answer to that question or a different one.

[cindyt]

I'd love to see it, if I had a tv.

[salvatore1989]

I would say the Manson Murders. Especially after hearing one of the killers is to be released back into society.

[navallint]

The boy in the box and the keddie murders which there are some new leads.

[artymorty]

Has to be Madeleine McCann .Parents putting their other 2 kids into hotel creche the next day , the way they carried on with their holiday , how we are still spending money even now trying to find her .All stinks.

[Lindseyup67]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steve-...b_1120771.html

[Shellie]

Has to be Madeleine McCann .Parents putting their other 2 kids into hotel creche the next day , the way they carried on with their holiday , how we are still spending money even now trying to find her .All stinks.

I agree 100% with you. There is something iffy going on about it and there are still too many questions that have not been answered. I get the feeling that if it was a working class couple who did it they would be down for child abuse etc and they would be hounded for leaving their children alone.

What people seem to forget is that everyday there are children going missing and they say there isn't enough money or resources to properly look in to it yet this is a case that has lasted how many years and they still put their hand out and ask for money to find her.