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    Quote Originally Posted by coconn04 View Post
    Obama never showed his grades or we do not know how he got into Columbia but he did not graduate with honors. He is our affirmative action candidates so people gave with point for being half black. I do not think people get it but he was not descended from slave. Other than that he never even ran a hot dog stand. Trump built a military billion dollar business. How many people you define as smart could do that?
    And now look - we're going to have Affirmative Action Academy Awards. Ain't life grand?
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    Quote Originally Posted by McCourt View Post
    And now look - we're going to have Affirmative Action Academy Awards. Ain't life grand?
    It should not even apply to Obama because Affirmative Action was to make concession for slavery and Obama was not descended from slaves. Strange reasoning. I know Obama did talk about Cocaine use in his teen and not doing well in high school. People give him a pass for how he got into Columbia. I have seen some news footage of Obama where he looked like he was still using. By the way, Donald Trump never smoke or drank because his brother died of alcoholism.
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    coconn, a lot of that was directed at the other cat with the quotes besides the hating rich people pro-Trump thing... You can make points on certain anti-Obama rhetoric, it's been going on for 8 years along with the obstruction of his big laundry list of proposals and promises. Several more times the obstruction by the opposing party than any POTUS in history. Some policies made it, some didn't.

    Generally it's been stalemate of a do-nothing Congress. Obama is a good campaigner, the guy can talk but when he got into office he realized he had to "play the game". Personally, over those 8 long W. Bush years where wars, war crimes and the economy went a-tanking from that, I'll use Trump's word, disaster! This country really needed a Barack Obama.

    More people have health insurance coverage, that's what the ACA did. It also made it so the insurance companies couldn't fuck with people so much. Pre-existing conditions, not accepting claims, denying coverage, etc... Personally, I like Bernie's take on expanding the ACA to where we would have free healthcare like most other civilized countries. It really should be a human right. The cost may have gone up for some people, there are bugs in it.

    Some people didn't have enough coverage on their original policy, so yeah they lost that coverage. There was some bullshitting there. Like I said, Obama had to "play the game". It's been up for repeal now how many times, how many failures of that?

    He also, played the SuperPAC game and won twice. Which the GOP are kinda really salty about. That's why we have so much stalemate of our corrupt elected representatives who care more about pandering to their base and getting re-elected raising money 75% of the time while bickering back and forth for the last 8 years.

    I know you're pro-Trump and probably wouldn't take this 2012 Alternet article to be credible at all considering its source but if there's any truth to it.

    Maybe. Makes you go, hmmm? Sounds legit... peace.

    http://www.alternet.org/story/156234/exposing_how_donald_trump_really_made_his_fortune%3A_inheritance_from_dad_and_the_gov ernment's_protection_mostly_did_the_trick

    In March 2011 Forbes estimated Donald Trump's net worth to be $2.7 billion, with a $60 million salary. Many praise and analyze his “success” as if it were self-made, and they fail to attribute the proper credit to others in society where it is deserved. Despite what Trump may espouse, his success would have been in no way possible without his father, the general public, and the US government. Unfortunately, Trump decided to forget or selectively ignore these truths while forming his political philosophy, a sentiment made particularly clear during his brief bid for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination. Trump was born in New York City in 1946, the son of real estate tycoon Fred Trump. Fred Trump’s business success not only provided Donald Trump with a posh youth of private schools and economic security but eventually blessed him with an inheritance worth an estimated $40 million to $200 million. It is critical to note, however, that his father’s success, which granted Donald Trump such a great advantage, was enabled and buffered by governmental financing programs. In 1934, while struggling during the Great Depression, financing from the Federal Housing Administration (FHA) allowed Fred Trump to revive his business and begin building a multitude of homes in Brooklyn, selling at $6,000 apiece. Furthermore, throughout World War II, Fred Trump constructed FHA-backed housing for US naval personnel near major shipyards along the East Coast.

    In 1974 Donald Trump became president of his father’s organization. During the 15 years following his ascension, he expanded and innovated the corporation, buying and branding buildings, golf courses, hotels, casinos, and other recreational facilities. In 1980 he established The Trump Organization to oversee all of his real estate operations.

    Trump eventually found himself in serious financial trouble. In 1990, due to excessive leveraging, The Trump Organization revealed that it was $5 billion in debt ($8.8 billion by some estimates), with $1 billion personally guaranteed by Trump himself. The survival of the company was made possible only by a bailout pact agreed upon in August of that same year by some 70 banks, allowing Trump to defer on nearly $1 billion in debt, as well as to take out second and third mortgages on almost all of his properties. If it were not for the collective effort of all banks and parties involved in that 1990 deal, Trump’s business would have gone bankrupt and failed.

    In 1995 Trump took Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts Inc. public and received a substantial financial boost from society and the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) regulations that enable the market to function. He initially sold 10 million shares at $14 per share and then in 1996 sold 13.25 million shares at $32.50 a share. This initial public offering granted Trump’s company a stability and legitimacy that would have been impossible without millions of people around the world trusting his organization and investing with the hope of shared success.

    Despite the clear societal and governmental assistance described above, Trump continues to be outspoken in his criticism of government. In his book The America We Deserve, Trump explains that “the greatest threat to the American Dream is the idea that dreamers need close government scrutiny and control. Job one for us is to make sure the public sector does a limited job, and no more.” This quote proves to be particularly ironic when considering Trump’s feelings about eminent domain laws. He was quoted as saying, “I happen to agree with it 100 percent” when speaking of the 2005 Supreme Court decision on Kolo v. New London, which affirmed the government’s ability to transfer land from one private owner to another for the purpose of economic development in the area. In fact, Trump attempted to take advantage of eminent domain laws on multiple occasions, once even demanding that an elderly widow give up her home so that he could build a limousine parking lot.

    Perhaps more disturbing than his hypocritical condemnation of the government is his failure to acknowledge anyone’s contributions, save his own, in the creation of his success. At the 2011 Conservative Political Action Conference, Trump made clear his feelings on the creation of his wealth: “Over the years I’ve participated in many battles and have really almost come out very, very victorious every single time. I’ve beaten many people and companies, and I’ve won many wars. I have fairly but intelligently earned many billions of dollars, which in a sense was both a scorecard and acknowledgment of my abilities.” Furthermore, Trump apparently sees no benefit in supporting taxes to maintain institutions such as the Securities and Exchange Commission to regulate the stock market, in which he publicly trades his company, or the court system, which actively protects his property rights: “We are the highest taxed nation—I would tax foreign countries that are ripping off the US and lower taxes for Americans.”
    From the moment of his birth, Trump was set up for success. The large inheritance left to him by his father, coupled with the contributions and the protections of society and the US government made his ascension to the Forbes 400 list almost inevitable. Nevertheless, Trump fails to recognize this phenomenon and continues to express his belief that he did it alone.

    Interesting. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_leadership
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    I could easily pick away at your list. Good campaigner. Hillary also implode and John Edwards was misdirecting funds for his mistress and soon her and his child. Many thought McCain was too old. I was part of the healthcare thing. In order to get restriction with those pre dispose with illness he upped the healthy people on premiums and deductibles. I was happy with my plan. I was told by Obama that if I liked my plan I could keep it and he knew that was a lie to get a bill past. As far as the congress their role is oversight. A lot of the republican were brought in to oppose Obamacare. Has Obama got us out of war?
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    Pick away easily if you feel like it. When I'm bored it's a slightly amusing time killer.

    Problem with the GOP on the ACA is they have no real alternative plan besides going back to the old status quo. If they repeal it, which they've tried about a gazillion times and failed... a lot of people, millions, will lose their health insurance. Especially all the rather unhealthy people in southern red states.

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    I am sure that any one of us that reaches the limit will be shown the way to hospice care. How can someone not pay into the system and then show up at the 11th hour and want to be covered. Stupid idea. Why do people fall for it? I think people need to see government the way our founding father has originated. We are united as states for infrastructure and defense. There is nothing in the constitution about marriage and healthcare and other nonsense. This is what I like about Trump.He sees the the possibilities. Even with all its problem I think this is the best time to be living in America. The miserable people who see any optimism is stupid are blind.
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    I think it comes down to how one is raised. If one is raised to believe all they need to do is be born and have an address to get a check, that's what one will do. When one is raised to understand that THEY are solely responsible for THEIR own needs, then they rise to the challenge. The system is in place to give a helping hand, not a free one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McCourt View Post
    I think it comes down to how one is raised. If one is raised to believe all they need to do is be born and have an address to get a check, that's what one will do. When one is raised to understand that THEY are solely responsible for THEIR own needs, then they rise to the challenge. The system is in place to give a helping hand, not a free one.
    I would say most probably want to work hard and do things in this society, legally, to get a check. Trump was basically born... and got a check!

    The system is rigged and some don't get a break. Let me ask, do you think there should be no safety nets and insurance companies, corporations, etc... should be able to do whatever they want? Are you the kind of people that only subscribe to Ayn Rand idealism? Laissez Faire Capitalism.

    Single-payer Medicare kind of system would lower medical costs.

    Also, what's your take on corruption here in the U.S.? You didn't address corruption which was my main "spiel".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spliff View Post
    I would say most probably want to work hard and do things in this society, legally, to get a check. Trump was basically born... and got a check!

    The system is rigged and some don't get a break. Let me ask, do you think there should be no safety nets and insurance companies, corporations, etc... should be able to do whatever they want? Are you the kind of people that only subscribe to Ayn Rand idealism? Laissez Faire Capitalism.

    Single-payer Medicare kind of system would lower medical costs.

    Also, what's your take on corruption here in the U.S.? You didn't address corruption which was my main "spiel".
    Many people have squandered their inheritence as Donald Trump's brother did. You have a future in a healthcare system where most people only get help at the end of their lives. I paid into the system when I was out of work and then they discontinued my plan and wanted me to get pay more. Thanks, I did get another job. Now I have a deductible of 5000.00 . Thanks Obama.
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    The thing is, this country has or is trying to kick God out of everything, and we need moral leaders to bring a revival or we are toast. It's simple as that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cindyt View Post
    The thing is, this country has or is trying to kick God out of everything, and we need moral leaders to bring a revival or we are toast. It's simple as that.
    God is good as a moral compass. The bible is a great source for moral and ethical values.
    In am modern (past 1800) society however it should stay out of any form of government. We have evolved from the theocracies of the past and we have all the benefits of a secular state.

    The problem with "moral leaders" is that they only represent a small part of society, unless you are thinking of an Ayatollah in a sharia state..
    Some compare Elvis to God.. I mean He is good, but He is no Elvis

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerryvr View Post
    God is good as a moral compass. The bible is a great source for moral and ethical values.
    In am modern (past 1800) society however it should stay out of any form of government. We have evolved from the theocracies of the past and we have all the benefits of a secular state.

    The problem with "moral leaders" is that they only represent a small part of society, unless you are thinking of an Ayatollah in a sharia state..
    We'll just have to agree to disagree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spliff View Post
    I would say most probably want to work hard and do things in this society, legally, to get a check. Trump was basically born... and got a check!

    The system is rigged and some don't get a break. Let me ask, do you think there should be no safety nets and insurance companies, corporations, etc... should be able to do whatever they want? Are you the kind of people that only subscribe to Ayn Rand idealism? Laissez Faire Capitalism.

    Single-payer Medicare kind of system would lower medical costs.

    Also, what's your take on corruption here in the U.S.? You didn't address corruption which was my main "spiel".
    The thing is that I don't get all jealous about people who have more money than I do. I posted that the system is in place to help people out, not to take care of their every need. A single payer system is a terrible idea because there is no competition. Competition drives prices down. I've always taken care of my medical insurance and now that Obama has rigged it so that people get it for free, I'm paying about four times more than usual. How is that fair? Those of us who have always done the right thing are now paying for people who don't.

    I'm obviously against corruption but if you know how politics and business work, you know its there. People in high places always do favors for one another - even those on the other side of the aisle.
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    I think it comes down to how one is raised. If one is raised to believe all they need to do is be born and have an address to get a check, that's what one will do. When one is raised to understand that THEY are solely responsible for THEIR own needs, then they rise to the challenge. The system is in place to give a helping hand, not a free one.
    This is so true, I was raised by parents with a "strong work ethic" who supported me through college. After that, I was responsible for my livelihood. They did me a huge favor, it kept me on my toes and till this day, I realize I can only rely on myself to support my daughter and me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by triccelli View Post
    This is so true, I was raised by parents with a "strong work ethic" who supported me through college. After that, I was responsible for my livelihood. They did me a huge favor, it kept me on my toes and till this day, I realize I can only rely on myself to support my daughter and me.

    Absolutely!!! This is how I raised my kids and I'm sure you're raising your daughter the same way. Parents can influence their children to excel or just settle. Too many are settling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by triccelli View Post
    This is so true, I was raised by parents with a "strong work ethic" who supported me through college. After that, I was responsible for my livelihood. They did me a huge favor, it kept me on my toes and till this day, I realize I can only rely on myself to support my daughter and me.
    Great post. All four of my daughters were raised the same way you were. Unfortunately "Work Ethic" is something kids nowadays don't understand the meaning, let alone pronounce it properly.
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    Now fighting with the Pope next up God.
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    I think the both of them have stepped in it, especially Trump. Too many Roman Catholics in this country to be mouthing off about what the pope assumes. He should have just ignored him or reiterated his stand for border walls without criticizing, and the pope doesn't know Trump's heart, so he should have talked about building bridges in general without pointing fingers.

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    Lotta RC's down South and many up North don't like this Obama-like Pope, so kudos to Trump for having cojones.

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    All the RC's I know down here love the pope, but I'm protestant, so what do I know?

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    People say that Trump is so smart. I don't see it. He is not that intelligent. He's a borderline moron.

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    I am not overly religious but I respect them all. The Pope IS NOT GOD and I honestly don't give a shit what anyone else has to say about him. He's a MAN. Deal with it. I don't care what his opinion is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McCourt View Post
    I am not overly religious but I respect them all. The Pope IS NOT GOD and I honestly don't give a shit what anyone else has to say about him. He's a MAN. Deal with it. I don't care what his opinion is.
    Yep. But I was talking vote wise. If Trump wants the RC vote he needs to watch his mouth, that's all. And the Pope should read the Bible where it says Judge and ye shall be judged. It is true that Christians are known for the fruits they bear-for their actions, but no one should point their finger and say "He's not a Christian, because he" does this or that.

    Franklin Graham weighed in with (paraphrased): Building bridges is a good thing, but sometimes you have to build a wall to protect your country...what the pope needs to do is build a bridge to Trump, vice versa. I agree.

    Anyway, I don't like the idea of building a wall so that Mexican people can't come here to make a better life for themselves. Of course I'm biased. But I have known many illegals who were here for that purpose. One young guy came up here to earn money for his brother's medical bills--I think the brother had cerebral palsy or something like that. Nabo said he worked long hours and lived as cheap as he could so he could provide for that brother. He lived with us for a few weeks and I don't think Nabo charged him rent.

    On the other hand, I don't want terrorist or drug dealers sneaking into the US wreaking havoc. So...I don't particularly like Trump, but I agree with his wall-building. It's a shame the world has come to this, but it is what it is.
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    Since the Vatican has walls I feel the need to speak up. The Mexicans have used the Pope. These are words manipulated. I do not believe the Pope would say this to Donald Trump. There is an agenda going on. I have been to Pope Francis events and no where did I hear something about anti Christian about criminals coming into our country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coconn04 View Post
    Since the Vatican has walls I feel the need to speak up. The Mexicans have used the Pope. These are words manipulated. I do not believe the Pope would say this to Donald Trump. There is an agenda going on. I have been to Pope Francis events and no where did I hear something about anti Christian about criminals coming into our country.
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    The president of Mexico says that Mexico is not paying for Trump's wall.

    If Trump really wants a wall, he should get his wealthy friends to pay for a section. He should have a fund raiser and make it a status symbol to have your name on a section of wall. The Koch brothers could easily pony up for part of it.

    He could say... I'm building a bridge to the moon and space aliens are going to pay for it~ It would mean just as much.

    Like most religions, he is cherry-picking the parts he likes, and ignoring the rest. Dangerous.

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    Trump could write a check for the wall, but its not his responsibility. Hopefully, he'll stop giving aid to the middle east and then we could build as many walls as we want.
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    I don't think he could pay for an entire wall, nor should he. He could however hold one of those fun-raising dinners like the candidates when they are raising money... Make it like a Billionaires chicken-or-beef dinner. I've been to many fund-raising dinners for various things, the YMCA, or a hospital in the area... They charge a set price for the dinner, serve some drinks, have silent auctions and raffles... Then they have Mr. Trump and Mrs. Palin, and others give speeches... they could raise a lot of money. They need to figure out how much a 15 foot section of wall would cost.. then people could 'buy' a section of wall. It's a time honored way to raise money. It might become a status symbol to 'own' a section of the wall.

    I don't think that a wall is the answer. He could raise money this way though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hidium View Post
    The president of Mexico says that Mexico is not paying for Trump's wall.
    It's not like Trump is sending them a bill expecting them to pay for it. He is proposing the reduction of foreign aid to the country and using that money instead. Most viable solution I've heard of yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulination View Post
    It's not like Trump is sending them a bill expecting them to pay for it. He is proposing the reduction of foreign aid to the country and using that money instead. Most viable solution I've heard of yet.
    ITA

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    I've just always had a problem taking Trump seriously; especially as a politician and a Presidential candidate. Honestly, if the election were tomorrow, I have no idea who I might vote for.

    Quote Originally Posted by cindyt View Post
    The thing is, this country has or is trying to kick God out of everything, and we need moral leaders to bring a revival or we are toast. It's simple as that.
    Revival of what Cindy?

    Which God - whose God - shouldn't be kicked out of everything?

    Quote Originally Posted by jerryvr View Post
    God is good as a moral compass. The bible is a great source for moral and ethical values.
    In am modern (past 1800) society however it should stay out of any form of government. We have evolved from the theocracies of the past and we have all the benefits of a secular state..
    Homosexuals, adulterers and rebellious teens - just to name a few examples - all deserve death according to that moral compass. On a positive note; the Bible does give some instruction on how to beat your slaves; and some instructions to the slaves as to how they should behave toward their masters. That info might have come in pretty handy had not mere modern men decided that slavery was wrong.

    https://youtu.be/xl_TrvIIcBY

    I haven't been particularly happy with my choices in the last several elections - it looks like this one will be no different; maybe even worse; and I just can't see voting for Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimC View Post
    I've just always had a problem taking Trump seriously; especially as a politician and a Presidential candidate. Honestly, if the election were tomorrow, I have no idea who I might vote for.



    Revival of what Cindy?

    Which God - whose God - shouldn't be kicked out of everything?



    Homosexuals, adulterers and rebellious teens - just to name a few examples - all deserve death according to that moral compass. On a positive note; the Bible does give some instruction on how to beat your slaves; and some instructions to the slaves as to how they should behave toward their masters. That info might have come in pretty handy had not mere modern men decided that slavery was wrong.

    https://youtu.be/xl_TrvIIcBY

    I haven't been particularly happy with my choices in the last several elections - it looks like this one will be no different; maybe even worse; and I just can't see voting for Trump.

    The problem with "moral leaders" is that they only represent a small part of society, unless you are thinking of an Ayatollah in a sharia state..
    [/QUOTE] You know Whom and what I'm talking about, Jim. We will just have to agree to disagree and move on.
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    Yeah - just doesn't seem right to exclude or ignore the equally credible others.

    I don't recall now who it was who remarked that Trump was basically a caricature of a Presidential candidate; but damn if that doesn't hit the nail on the head in my mind.

    He spoke down on the coast in my state a few weeks ago. It so happened that I had to go to the coast for a funeral that day. On the way down I saw a neon green Humvee stretch limo with a Trump poster on the rear window stopped at a gas station.

    I don't know if he was inside, but it's safe to say that there aren't too many neon green Humvee stretch limos sporting Trump posters running the roads of South MS on any given day.

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    He keeps saying that he'll bring jobs back to America, but he is one of the biggest offenders, his entire line of Trump clothing, ties, etc... everything is made in Mexico and China. It's a lot cheaper to manufacture there. Yet, nobody will ask him about this. It seems like a really obvious question for him... Will you bring YOUR jobs back to America? Why isn't he expected to do the very things he says others must do? He is the one who said that Mexico will pay for the wall. He has people repeat that like a chant. He refuses to say HOW he will get them to pay for the wall. He will cut taxes for people - If they are super rich. If you are an average person with middle class wages and life style, he will want you to pay more in taxes. Why doesn't anyone bring that up to him? He is like a big baby that everyone is afraid of. Don't ask him hard questions, or he'll tell you you're ugly. The one good thing about him, and this is a stretch... you really don't know for sure what he actually believes. He might simply be pandering. He could be lying about everything.

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    He could be lying about everything but everyone knows what a liar Hillary is, so if it comes down to this liar or that liar, I'm voting for Trump.
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    as much as people are ripping on Trump, hes kicking ass in the polls and the primaries, but they did that to Reagan also. And like Reagan hes running without party support. And like Reagan he will win this

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    Didn't the guy recently make a comment that Muslims should have to carry ID cards or something like that?

    This would be our President?

    I've got an idea - let's just make them wear bright yellow arm bands so that we can spot them from a distance. Maybe we could tattoo their ID numbers on their forearms too.

    Better yet; we can build these camps...

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    I dunno, He seems like A Kim jong- Un or Hitler type. We didn't care for his comment on GMA about how he doesn't want to deal with the "Economy" issues. Plus, IMO he seems to be in the early stages of Dementia. JMO

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    There are camps. Concentration facilities for illegal immigrants. Concentration camps. Not the kind like Hitler threw up, but who knows what the future holds?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cindyt View Post
    There are camps. Concentration facilities for illegal immigrants. Concentration camps. Not the kind like Hitler threw up, but who knows what the future holds?
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    Toss in a measure of political posturing and a couple of pinches of pandering; there's no telling what you might cook up.
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    "I love the poorly educated."

    That's not fair. He should let US tell the jokes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hidium View Post
    He keeps saying that he'll bring jobs back to America, but he is one of the biggest offenders, his entire line of Trump clothing, ties, etc... everything is made in Mexico and China. It's a lot cheaper to manufacture there. Yet, nobody will ask him about this. It seems like a really obvious question for him... Will you bring YOUR jobs back to America? Why isn't he expected to do the very things he says others must do? He is the one who said that Mexico will pay for the wall. He has people repeat that like a chant. He refuses to say HOW he will get them to pay for the wall. He will cut taxes for people - If they are super rich. If you are an average person with middle class wages and life style, he will want you to pay more in taxes. Why doesn't anyone bring that up to him? He is like a big baby that everyone is afraid of. Don't ask him hard questions, or he'll tell you you're ugly. The one good thing about him, and this is a stretch... you really don't know for sure what he actually believes. He might simply be pandering. He could be lying about everything.
    Macys drop his clothing line. Trump mentioned that he never liked the fact that it was made overseas. Since Trump's business is hospitality and golf courses and stuff he can not outsource those jobs. Since Trump has created jobs what makes you think he will not do it as president?
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    We've had over 2 centuries of white POTUS. Now 8 years with a black one, are we really ready for an orange one?
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    ALL politicians are liars, it's part of the job title. When I said it about Trump, I meant it in a good way... That he is willing to re-think his views from time to time. So as far as him being for-or-against a women's reproductive choices, for example, he has 'changed' his views... That is everyone's right to change their minds.

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    umm what do you think Obama did with the mass influx of Illegals when he kicked the borders open last summer, yea he put them into makeshift camps until they were processed. Trump has openly said to put a halt on all the illegals and Syrians until a plan can be devised on screening, Of say 600 people that pour across the borders maybe 10 are criminals. How much damage can 10 people do ? That was just a raw number since only 19 were able to bring down 2 New York office towers. Ive been trying to get somebody here legally just to visit from another nation for the past 2 years, pisses me the hell off because Obama kicks open the borders with Mexico, disarm the border patrol allow millions of muslum Syrians to invade the country, an they wont even allow friend a visa for a vacation.

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    OMG CleanSkull, too funny! I wasn't going to say it, but last night, Trump's hair was a bright yellow!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hidium View Post
    OMG CleanSkull, too funny! I wasn't going to say it, but last night, Trump's hair was a bright yellow!
    Since we are talking about candidates' hair, Hillary has been wearing a wig. At least some people take time to fix their real hair before going out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hidium View Post
    OMG CleanSkull, too funny! I wasn't going to say it, but last night, Trump's hair was a bright yellow!
    Glad I didn't watch it. He is a chromatic disaster. Besides, I don't think we are ready for a Oompa Loompa POTUS.
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    There was one night when his face was really red. He needs a professional make-over. It does bring up a good question... Who would take longer to get ready if there was a 3:30 am disaster. Hillary could put on a wig, and have her make up squeegeed on in the elevator, but any male president would have to shave before going on camera. Trump's hair probably takes a really long time to 'do'. I looked up his hair on the internet. It is really hard to put your finger on what is wrong with it. One theory is that Ivana Trump was telling the truth in her tell all book, that she now denies, because money changed her story, but if he did have the bald spot removal that would have given him the unnatural hair line he now has. That and he's doing his hair the same way he did when he was young, so that takes a lot of back combing and teasing. So, with shaving and his hair and make-up, I think it would take him longer to get ready.

    Quite a few things he has said have turned out to be false. His story about thousands of Muslims in the USA celebrating during 9/11 - never happened. The story he just told about dipping bullets in pig's blood then executing 49 Muslims - That's an urban legend. I think it's irresponsible to pass things like that off as true. So, if he's doing it to mis-lead people, that's wrong. If he's falling for these stories himself, that's pretty scary too.

    People love to make things up about President Obama. Someone said he was a coke dealer. The only documented coke dealer as president would have been Ronald Reagan.

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