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  1. #351
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    Quote Originally Posted by pwem View Post
    Uni, I know you don't want anyone feeling sorry for you but I give you much credit and hugs for coming out of a nightmare with your hat on straight. While we all are interested in the details of a murder and it's aftermath we pay no attention to the many who went through the same thing as the killer may have and came out the other end as a whole person.

    Hugs to you (((((((Uni)))))))
    Thanks, pwem. I just think I am a regular gal, and I have a strong soul. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger, right?

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    It does indeed, Wonderwoman.

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    I heard this on the news last night.

    http://ca.news.yahoo.com/porn-star-r...193705955.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacksmum View Post
    I heard this on the news last night.

    http://ca.news.yahoo.com/porn-star-r...193705955.html
    Well that's random.

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    Weeeeell, that's a lot of bait.

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    trash attracts vermin. woulda worked.
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    LOL!

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    http://www.vancouversun.com/Luka+Mag...959/story.html

    Eurgh, just the attention the little shit craves.

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    I have more hatred for the media at this moment than I ever have. They are trying to get another story out of this while they can.

    I truly think the press and journalists have a lot to answer to after the Connecticut massacre. They really don't care who they hurt, who they offend, what boundary of good taste they cross all to make a buck. As we have seen they will even make up stories to keep the public buying.

    Despicable lowlifes.

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    I remember a time when journalists were respected for their trade. Then came Watergate, and suddenly journalists wanted to be the next Woodward and Bernstein. I'll take a sleazy car salesman any day to these snakes...
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    I saw this guys' video earlier this year. A friend of mine linked me to the site. I can't remember the name of it but it was one of those typical death video/pic sites. Pretty freaky!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neko! View Post
    http://www.vancouversun.com/Luka+Mag...959/story.html

    Eurgh, just the attention the little shit craves.
    Well he was a huge story, and probably before the 14th of December, I would have said "What the hell are you squawking about?" but Sandy Hook and seeing CHILDREN badgered by reporters for their reactions has really made me rethink the way we process our news and what we consider important information. I tend to agree that giving Magnotta any extra press at all is detrimental to the family of the victim and the nation as a whole.

    And just once, I'd like a positive news story to be the top.

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    I wouldn't even ask for a good news story. All I ask for is a well written story with proper grammar, structure, and totally, but totally, unbiased.

    I want the person writing the story to be better informed than I am and well educated.

    I would also like to see peace in the Middle East and a calorie free Ben & Jerry's ice cream but I doubt any of it will ever happen.

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    I had heard of this story and forgotten until today......thought I would goggle the so called death video....what I found looked fake to me anyone else seen it?

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    I saw some of it, but I don't think it was fake. The lack of blood was because he was already dead when he was stabbing him. (Right?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by discod View Post
    I had heard of this story and forgotten until today......thought I would goggle the so called death video....what I found looked fake to me anyone else seen it?
    I've seen it. It was on a gore site. Not much blood, It starts with the guy tied up and blindfolded. It doesn't show him actually killing him. It does show him cutting pieces off and (It's been a while, and I've tried to forget it) but I think his dog eats some of the body too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RiotBoots View Post
    I saw some of it, but I don't think it was fake. The lack of blood was because he was already dead when he was stabbing him. (Right?)
    that was my take on it.
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    It wasnt just the lack of blood (yes it stops pumping once dead) it was the amount of times he stabbed him then towards the end you see the torso and there are hardly any puncture wounds...he must have stabbed him at least 50 times...maybe its because it was an ice pick and the wounds weren't noticable....plus the whole dismemberment it all looked to smooth and came off to easy.....ive never seen it before so perhaps that is how it happens but it just seemed to simple/easy.

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    yep, the whole thing disturbed me. IDK, it's weird. It made me kinda nauseous, and I've seen all kinds of crap... just something about this that bothered me.

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    I just watched it, and that was pretty fucked up.

    For some reason, the New Order song playing made it extra weird to me.

  21. #371
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    Gore site operator charged.

    [SIZE=4][SIZE=4]Edmonton man charged in connection with Magnotta investigation[/SIZE][/SIZE]

    Edmonton police say they have charged a man in connection with a video posted online depicting the murder of Montreal student Lin Jun. Police allege Mark Marek, 38, was the owner and operator of the website where the video was posted. Marek was arrested Tuesday and charged with corrupting morals. Luka Magnotta has been charged with the murder of Lin Jun.
    Last edited by Jacksmum; 07-17-2013 at 12:43 PM.

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    We have a "corrupting morals" charge on the books?? Seriously??

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    Quote Originally Posted by radiojane View Post
    We have a "corrupting morals" charge on the books?? Seriously??
    Crazy!!!!

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    A little local gossip regarding this guy. Apparently in and around 2005 he was in the town of Vegerville, AB. At least people are recognizing him - or someone that looks just like him. He was interested in purchasing a photo business there. One friend of mine remembers going into the store and seeing his photography of little girls dancing - and they were very sexual. She was totally creeped out and left, her radar was going off big time. Another person remembers going in there for passport photos and being grossed out by all of the XXX adult videos right out in the open for anyone to see. He would also promote "try-outs" for movies, etc., and try to get people to bring their kids in for photos. He just rubbed people the wrong way - so much so that they are certain this is the same guy years later.
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    I'd totally forgotten about this creep, but I saw an interesting article link on Rolling Stone's Twitter, about how animal right's activists aided in Magnotta's capture. It goes into some fascinating detail about the deepest parts of the internet, where people go to watch videos of freaks killing live kittens, puppies, etc. Apparently Magnotta began his career with killing kittens.

    http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/...adist-20140319

    What a total freaky creep this guy is. Ugh! I'm a death hag, and proud of it, but there are some things a normal person just wouldn't do/watch. I love that they decided not to televise his trial; what a blow it must have been for him, since he thrives on attention. When he was captured in Germany, he was in an internet cafe, googling himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katrinawitch View Post
    I'd totally forgotten about this creep, but I saw an interesting article link on Rolling Stone's Twitter, about how animal right's activists aided in Magnotta's capture. It goes into some fascinating detail about the deepest parts of the internet, where people go to watch videos of freaks killing live kittens, puppies, etc. Apparently Magnotta began his career with killing kittens.

    http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/...adist-20140319

    What a total freaky creep this guy is. Ugh! I'm a death hag, and proud of it, but there are some things a normal person just wouldn't do/watch. I love that they decided not to televise his trial; what a blow it must have been for him, since he thrives on attention. When he was captured in Germany, he was in an internet cafe, googling himself.
    He creeps me out too. Just something about him, I don't look for updates on him on the internet or anything. He actually makes me sick to my stomach. Good to hear his trial won't be televised.

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    If I saw someone hurting an animal, I'd shoot them.

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    there's a very good special on this on cbc right now-
    "True Crime Canada - inside the Luka Magnotta case"
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    Just watched it online, bizarre ! The Shafia Family is heartbreaking.
    For anyone who wants to see it here is the link. http://www.cbc.ca/player/Shows/Shows...ID/2471260474/
    Last edited by Mansfield67; 07-07-2014 at 09:32 PM.

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    Has he gone to trial yet? Thanks for that link, I'll be watching it later.


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    Starts in September. It's going to be an absolute circus here. No cameras will be allowed though. And according to an article I read, tweeting updates from court is also illegal in Quebec courts as of last year.

    Quote Originally Posted by Morrissey View Post
    I just watched it, and that was pretty fucked up.

    For some reason, the New Order song playing made it extra weird to me.
    I love that song and now everytime I hear it... it makes me feel a little uneasy lol.
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    Too bad Canada doesn't have the death penalty.

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    We did.. the last two executions were here in Toronto in 1962, and one of the men was American. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Lucas
    A bid to restore the death penalty was defeated in 1987.

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    I'm not sure this guy would apply for the death penalty anyway. Since I posted my last post I learned he was diagnosed as a paranoid schizophrenic when he was younger. Personally I don't care what he was diagnosed. He knew right from wrong. Going on the run proves that. I'd give him death for what he did to those poor kitties, much less what he did to that poor person. As the great Frank Reynolds said, "Flush that turd down the drain!".

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    Quote Originally Posted by UniPolarMommaBear View Post
    Thanks, pwem. I just think I am a regular gal, and I have a strong soul. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger, right?
    I lived in a negative environment with abuse as a child also. Not nearly as bad as yours but it left scars none the less. One day I decided I wasn't going to let it define me or run my life or be an excuse for my short comings. I used to blame everything on my shitty parents until I woke up and decided to take charge of my own life and be better by rising above all of that. I decided to not be screwed up anymore. Why? Because they win and I'm not going to let that happen. I agree. We are stronger for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StewartGilliganGriffin View Post
    Too bad Canada doesn't have the death penalty.
    We don't believe in executing innocent people by accident, which happens anywhere they have the death penalty.

    I also believe that murdering somebody for murdering somebody is a bit hypocritical.
    Last edited by beep; 07-09-2014 at 03:59 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beep View Post
    We don't believe in executing innocent people by accident, which happens anywhere they have the death penalty.

    I also believe that murdering somebody for murdering somebody is a bit hypocritical.
    Yeah I used to feel that way too. But now we have DNA and can say with 100% accuracy if someone is guilty in some cases. I guess a video of the guy murdering, desecrating, and dismembering the body among other evidence would suffice as 100% accuracy of his guilt.

    I can counter the hypocritical argument with 2 points. One: We're all hypocrites. Two: This wouldn't be murder. It would be justice. A person has to be a person before you can murder them. That doesn't apply in this case.

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    The definition of justice is completely subjective. I would classify it as revenge and emotional, both of which should have no place in the matter, not to mention they would be responsible for the odd innocent person being put to death.

    Thank god we don't have the death penalty. And also, DNA evidence doesn't prove "100%" as you put it, that somebody is guilty.
    Last edited by beep; 07-09-2014 at 07:53 AM.
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    Well let's not misquote me please. I didn't say DNA proves 100% that someone is guilty. I said 100% in "some cases". And I stand by that statement. You add DNA to other physical and circumstantial evidence and there are some cases, like this one, where it's a 100% certainty the person is guilty. In those cases I'm all for killing the monsters. Preferably slowly and painfully. Revenge? Hell yes. Punishment? Hell yes. Emotion? Unavoidable. We're human.

    I do wish we, America, made it harder for the death penalty to be used. Most times it's just used as a negotiation by prosecutors. "You plead guilty and we'll take death off the table". There's a lot about America I don't like but the harsh penalties for violent criminals is one thing I do like. If it's any consolation I like your health care system much more than ours lol

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    Revenge and emotion are avoidable. Both have no place in the justice system.

    Remind me again, which countries still have the death penalty? It's pretty telling.

    I'm proud to live in a country where this piece of shit will get to spend the rest of his life in a cell, and still have the opportunity to prove himself innocent if new evidence pops up. (It won't. He's already doomed himself.)
    Last edited by beep; 07-09-2014 at 09:42 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beep View Post
    I'm proud to live in a country where this piece of shit will get to spend the rest of his life in a cell, and still have the opportunity to prove himself innocent if new evidence pops up. (It won't. He's already doomed himself.)
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    Like these 2? Bernardo was sentenced in 1995 to "Life" in prison without possibility for parole for 25 years. By my math in just 6 years he'll be eligible for parole. There's no such thing as real life without parole in Canada and many other places. You're more concerned with rehabilitating monsters that can't be rehabilitated and catering to the criminal rather than getting justice for the victim and their families. And when I say "You're" I mean Canada and those that agree with light sentences. There are many Canadians that are as outraged as I am by your lax sentences.

    And this: http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/03...l-experts-say/

    And this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dear_Za...out_His_Father And I believe this one here has some good old fashioned anti-Americanism mixed in. It's really the only explanation for some of the judge's decisions.

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    Read this article and tell me what you all think of this case. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Tim_McLean

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    Tim has his own thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mansfield67 View Post
    Read this article and tell me what you all think of this case. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Tim_McLean
    I never heard of that case. One thing I find puzzling is that no one noticed any change in him at all before the murders. Seems if he was a paranoid schizophrenic he would have shown signs before losing it. That's also a pretty fast recovery. Trial was in 2009 and by 2010 he's already all better and having passes for walks? 2014 unsupervised visits outside the facility!!? That's insane and just more of the same regarding lax sentences. Behead a dude on a bus, eat parts of him, get sent to a spa for a few years and live on the tax payers dime. He never had it so good. Seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mansfield67 View Post
    Just watched it online, bizarre ! The Shafia Family is heartbreaking.
    For anyone who wants to see it here is the link. http://www.cbc.ca/player/Shows/Shows...ID/2471260474/
    "This content is currently unavailable." Because I'm in the US?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StewartGilliganGriffin;1458866[ATTACH=CONFIG
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    Like these 2? Bernardo was sentenced in 1995 to "Life" in prison without possibility for parole for 25 years. By my math in just 6 years he'll be eligible for parole. There's no such thing as real life without parole in Canada and many other places.
    Hah. No such thing as life? Well, technically I suppose you're right... but we do lock people up and throw away the key. Just ask Paul what his chances are of release. I'm sure he'd tell you himself. Nada.

    What happened to Karla was a complete fuckup and an absolute anomaly. That shouldn't be brought up at all.

    Which monsters have we given light sentences to and released? While I agree it's bad, I doubt I could think of enough to count on one hand.

    Quote Originally Posted by StewartGilliganGriffin;1458866/
    You're more concerned with rehabilitating monsters that can't be rehabilitated and catering to the criminal rather than getting justice for the victim and their families. And when I say "You're" I mean Canada and those that agree with light sentences.
    I don't think killing somebody is justice. I think it's a crime in itself. I think people should be locked up for life, and if we made a mistake, we can atleast somewhat make up for it. If you kill them, all you can say is oops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beep View Post
    I don't think killing somebody is justice. I think it's a crime in itself. I think people should be locked up for life, and if we made a mistake, we can atleast somewhat make up for it. If you kill them, all you can say is oops.
    That is the exact argument I used to use. Seriously. The exact thing pretty much word for word. And I still agree with you to a certain extent. If there's any doubt whatsoever they shouldn't face the death penalty. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on what justice is for these monsters. Death penalty is one of the very few issues where both sides can be right at the same time.

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    I live in Canada and I feel certain criminals should be put to death. Their crimes were so heinous and horrific. Clifford Olsen was a good example of that. Robert Pickton as well. Those 2 would never again see the light of day, thank goodness, but certainly merits the death penalty.
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    I just tried it and it played for me, could be because your in the U.S. It happens to me if I try to watch anything from the BBC in England, and Canada is part of the Commonwealth ! Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mansfield67 View Post
    I just tried it and it played for me, could be because your in the U.S. It happens to me if I try to watch anything from the BBC in England, and Canada is part of the Commonwealth ! Lol

    That's probably it. If only this guy had committed his crime in the US!

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