Layne Staley 2

[Two Lost Souls]

"We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will." -Chuck Palahniuk

And that he did. As cliche as it may be, Layne will never really die because he left a legacy that will continue to touch people for decades to come.

With that said, it's still hard to believe he's been gone for 8 years.

R.I.P Layne.

[Two Lost Souls]

I just read the previous page, and wow, I can't believe Mike finally admitted to being with Layne when he died. I don't watch Celebrity Rehab so I didn't see it, but I'll have to go back and check out the episode where he talks to Layne's mom.

I guess that puts the last nail in the coffin, so to speak. We now know what his final moments were like. It's really sad stuff, man.

No wonder why Mike is having such a hard time kicking his addiction, he must feel tremendous guilt.

[stacebabe]

I suck at searching, I tried -- what's the last known photo of Layne that we've seen?

[SomeChick]

It's in the first Layne Staley thread. Have a look around, it was reposted several times, so it's pretty easy to find.

[death hag dee]

Wow I just so saw that video Nancy is an amazing caring woman!

[wdhebert]

The ninth annual LAYNE STALEY TRIBUTE WEEKEND — honoring musician LAYNE STALEY’S life and music — will be held FRIDAY, AUGUST 20 through SUNDAY, AUGUST 22 in Seattle, Washington.

I'm going!

[Miho]

Hey guys I posted some fan memories of Layne's death today to mark the anniversary http://grungereport.net/2010/04/05/f...-died-in-2002/

I also made a Layne photo timeline
http://grungereport.net/2010/04/05/t...-1990-to-1997/

"obviously deceased"

Yeah he wasn't in good shape.......

[Nessa]

Thought you guys might be interested in this:

Rumours of AIC/Deftones/Mastodon Tour
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/bla...sitemID=138903

[wdhebert]

Thought you guys might be interested in this:

Rumours of AIC/Deftones/Mastodon Tour
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/bla...sitemID=138903

Thanks Nessa! Awesome news.

[Sissy]

Layne's condo is up for sale again.

http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/45...48831434_zpid/

[Nessa]

That price is INSANE. $413,000 would buy you a lot of land with a huge house around here.

[lap101999]

I'm a new member to this forum and have read every page of the first Layne Staley threads. I've learned a great deal about his life and death here and hope to learn more and seek those that have been touched by him.

In regards to the comments about the paint cans that were found in his condominium...I'm 99.9% convinced they were used for huffing, and not for his art. I am sure of this because not only am I a recovering addict that is familiar with 12 step programs, and have this (huffing) experience in my past, but also because Layne spoke of huffing on youtube. If you look up Alice in Chains on Headbanger's Ball in New Orleans, he speaks of regretting the ability to no longer purchase "Whip-It's". I too used to purchase Whip It's in Ontario, Oregon...it is the same high as huffing spray paint (or the ability to inhale vapors or aerosol propellant gases). Addicts use this form to increase the high of drugs they are currently using or to "tie them over" until they are able to access the drugs they are desiring or waiting for. Layne's art, from what I've found from research, was primarily clay, pen and ink...and some (very little) watercolors.

I hope this site hasn't been abandoned. I would really like to speak to those that care.

[lap101999]

As I stated before, I am a recovering addict. I am the same age that Layne would have been, had he lived (okay, I'm about 6 months younger). My connection to the work of Alice In Chains came when I had just moved back to Idaho from Washington in 1992. I found their music and lyrics defined my life. I found the connection of Layne's ability to define his addictions and feelings of absolute loneliness in the battle of life to mirror my own. My earliest recollections of feeling that devastating loneliness since the age of 9...which only grew in intensity throughout many years following. I know there are many others out there that have felt the connection with Layne...experienced much of what he did. I hope to hear from you. I'm hanging by a thread right now and hoping you'll respond. Much of their music has kept me going...where are the rest of you that found a safe haven in knowing you were not alone? No one should have been left dead for two weeks, without knowing you had departed....

[lap101999]

I've also read, from previous posts, that some consider Layne to be a loser because he did not overcome his addictions. This is rather disheartening to me. I understand that everyone is entitled to their opinion and respect that. But from my own experience, and from the experience of others I know that are addicts, I can tell you this....addicts often times are suffering from extreme low self esteem. We tend to be engulfed by guilt and self hatred. I know many other addicts that have remarkable gifts, and have family and friends and love them. Unfortunately, our self hatred, guilt, low self esteem or self hatred tears away at our self being....what you may see of us as positives, we cannot see. Yes, it is a sickness or mental illness...or call it a disease and it a vicious cyle. When you state we are "losers" you are affirming our beliefs. Taking the easy way out seems like a reprieve. Honestly, the only thread we are holding onto with that insight is that we don't want to hurt our family more than we already have. Addicts become reclusive because the want to hide the pain from those they love. How many times have I said, "I'm fine", and it's been a lie because I don't want to bring others down or have them worry for my state of mind? Layne's lyrics speak of this over and over and over again...not only with Alice In Chains, but also with his lyrics with Mad Season. He (we) felt the need to protect again and again..but was giving out some signals that help was needed. It's a scary boundary to cross, but who is willing to go the extra mile to respond?

[wdhebert]

I've also read, from previous posts, that some consider Layne to be a loser because he did not overcome his addictions. This is rather disheartening to me. I understand that everyone is entitled to their opinion and respect that. But from my own experience, and from the experience of others I know that are addicts, I can tell you this....addicts often times are suffering from extreme low self esteem. We tend to be engulfed by guilt and self hatred. I know many other addicts that have remarkable gifts, and have family and friends and love them. Unfortunately, our self hatred, guilt, low self esteem or self hatred tears away at our self being....what you may see of us as positives, we cannot see. Yes, it is a sickness or mental illness...or call it a disease and it a vicious cyle. When you state we are "losers" you are affirming our beliefs. Taking the easy way out seems like a reprieve. Honestly, the only thread we are holding onto with that insight is that we don't want to hurt our family more than we already have. Addicts become reclusive because the want to hide the pain from those they love. How many times have I said, "I'm fine", and it's been a lie because I don't want to bring others down or have them worry for my state of mind? Layne's lyrics speak of this over and over and over again...not only with Alice In Chains, but also with his lyrics with Mad Season. He (we) felt the need to protect again and again..but was giving out some signals that help was needed. It's a scary boundary to cross, but who is willing to go the extra mile to respond?

What a very poignant post, Lap. Welcome and we are glad to have you. I think you make an excellent point by saying addicts suffer from low self-esteem/self-hatred, etc. I think an addict develops when drugs find the weaknesses in people; I think it slithers through their bodies like a poison finding the holes of self-doubt, etc and falsely fulfills those people to the point of dependency. Without affirmation, this viscous cycle only gets worse. The point I'm trying to make is, the difficult part is helping those people with chemical dependency is probably the most difficult thing in the world. In Layne's case, he should have been helped starting in the early nineties.

[Inthenutshell]

Layne Staley and Chris Cornell

[Nessa]

Looks like Cornell is ready for the tracor pull, ya'll!

[KCBee]

Yet, again...Layne with the pouch. In his later years, it seemed like he always had a pouch somewhere on him. Was that where he kept the 'medicine'?

[TeddyBear]

Hi, I'm new to this forum and I'd like to know any good stories about Layne Staley I was kind of slow on picking up on music but I found Alice In Chains the old stuff not the new one with that William guy and I really liked it considering I was born in '89 and AIC's first cd didn't come out til '90 I have a kind of excuse for not knowing them sooner sadly I wish I had been born a decade sooner so I could have at least enjoyed them sooner then I have but at least I've found them and enjoy them anyway *smacks forehead* I'm rambling sorry anyway I'm new *wiggles fingers in a wave* HI!

[michihunt]

Hi QuietDarkEyes! Welcome to the forum! I would start here: http://www.findadeath.com/forum/show...t=Layne+Staley This is the first Layne Staley thread. When you're done (it will take you a while come back here!

[TeddyBear]

Hi yeah I found that and scanned through it for pictures first and now I'm going back and reading it lots of posts and pages this will probably take me a week but it's worth it wish I wasn't so young I would have loved to have gone to a concert of theirs well I wouldn't get to much into the drugs and alchohal but I'd still and do love the music I love the mix they gave us rock, metal, blues not much you can find like that these days sadly, Singing instead of out and out screaming easier on the ears for sure.

[TeddyBear]

This is one of my favorite slow AIC song's with these clips breaks my heart and makes me want to cry

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EsQX...eature=related

[TeddyBear]

I thought I read on some site this guy said that this song was weird and inconsistent or something along those lines but I actually it's one of their most beautiful songs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRbLv...eature=related

Even if there are no words to it, makes me think of like a instrumental rock ballad-ish and a baby lullaby.

[TeddyBear]

I know that Alice In Chains's lyrics are serious but none of them seem as blunt as this songs lyrics.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgMJewR5MS0&NR=1

[TeddyBear]

It just hit me *rolls eyes* I wish I had mentioned this earlier but I thought I read somewhere from one of the "Quotes By Layne Staley" that he supposedly found on the internet that he had AIDS and I know everyone always brings up his drug problem but maybe what actually killed him was the AIDS and not the drugs since I don't know if anyone was making a cure or fix for AIDS or at least so they wouldn't suffer and die from it but live with it and not be completely cured or something like that anyone have any ideas?

[SomeChick]

It just hit me *rolls eyes* I wish I had mentioned this earlier but I thought I read somewhere from one of the "Quotes By Layne Staley" that he supposedly found on the internet that he had AIDS...

Would you care to elaborate on that bolded bit, please? Because for the life of me, I have no idea how that would work.

[mdespain38]

He was talking about reading about himself on the internet and all the untrue things being said about him. I think he even read that he was dead.

[TeddyBear]

Okay I wasn't sure either way when you read something it can be understood different ways, I wasn't sure if he was just being sarcastic or he actually did have AIDS. I apologize if I offended anyone, I didn't mean to I was just asking a question to see if anyone knew the answer to it or any new information to it. Once again I apologize.

[TeddyBear]

This is by far one of my favorite AIC performances because Layne seems so alive here and I love the way he rhythmically shakes his head to the music, and its one of the things he continued to do when he performed for shows. I love it because when real artists and musicians move when they sing and play it means they have real talent and they feel the music flowing through them, if that makes any sense. Anyway sorry for rambling heres the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3wF0...eature=related

[TeddyBear]

Hi, I've been reading through the first Layne Staley Thread and I thought that Demri had violet or blue, or violet/blue eyes not brown. And I also thought Layne had blue but in different pictures his eyes appear blue, green, and even brown. I'm confused can someone explain this to me? If not thats fine.

[SelenaFan]

Well I finally finished reading both Layne threads last night. Was an interesting read. I'll have to check out their music when I get my pc fixed. My fav look of his is the slicked back hair and the short hair and clean shaven look. I'm not much for the long hair on men so.

[TeddyBear]

Yeah I'm still trying to read my way through the first thread it really is long, and then I've got this one to catch up on. I was looking at the Alice In Chains cds I bought and was wondering why it looks like Jerry seemed to have written alot of the lyrics for the songs, if I'm wrong feel free to correct me I just thought that, which I suppose is my misconception, most lead singers write the lyrics for songs. Hopefully this thread will get as big as the first one. Anyway, everyone have a great week!

[mdespain38]

Jerry did write most of the songs for AIC.

[SelenaFan]

I've been listening to some songs. They're ok, just not what I'm used to hearing but I'm starting to like it after a few runs. I like Would, Dirt, Sickman and another I cant remember what it is. I'm pretty sure I've heard Man in a Box before.

[TeddyBear]

Yeah about two or three years after Layne died I heard "Man in the Box", and "Rooster" and the radio over played them and I hated them. But I didn't know who they were at the time. Thankfully reason hit and I listened to their stuff and fell in love, granted I refound them because of "Check My Brain". But I still like old AIC, and thank you mdespain38 for answering my question.

[TeddyBear]

I wish the old thread hadn't been closed because I would have liked to comment on some of the posts but I suppose I'll do it here for however is reading me ramble on into the interest space lol. A few commented that when they first heard Whale & Wasp that they were creeped out by it but the first time I heard it I fell in love with it. Like so many other Alice In Chains songs.

[TeddyBear]

These are supposedly vocal tracks made by Layne, with music added after his death. Pretty funky. Just wanted to hear your opinions:
http://grungereport.net/2009/05/19/n...songs-surface/

Well they obviously aren't Alice In Chains sounding, but I love 'em! Their funky cool, to bad he didn't make more to go with this to make a cd out of it I would have loved to have owned it I like the sound kinda funky-techno-fun it would have been beautiful.

[wdhebert]

I suck at searching, I tried -- what's the last known photo of Layne that we've seen?

The last known pics were of him at the Grammy's. He's wearing a shiny, cheetah-looking jacket.

[SomeChick]

Here ya go folks: http://www.findadeath.com/forum/show...tte#post565818

Now how'd I do that and it took less than a minute? I popped the word 'cigarette' into the Search This Thread function of the first Staley thread. It's in the upper-right of every page in a thread. Easy peasy.

Also, if you know a pic has been posted but you have no luck with that feature after a few tries, there are tons of Staley pics on Google images. Find, copy pic address, paste it here to create a link to the pic's original hosting site and you're done.

[MrsLayneStaley1201]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY LAYNE! Thanks for everything.

[wdhebert]

I went to the LSF Tribute in August. I got to meet his mom and dad and went to his condo. Best trip ever and I can't wait to go back next year.

Check out my condo pics here: http://grungereport.net/2010/08/27/e...staleys-condo/

[NoLayneNoChains]

FAD could seriously benefit from a Layne page. There is so much information out there now with a HUGE amount of interest. Wonder if Scott would be interested? There are pics of his condo, his mailbox, his family, last show, all of that. I think it would make a great piece and get a lot more traffic to the site. Anybody know his thoughts on this?

[michihunt]

I would love to see a Layne Page. Scott is so talented and I know he would do Layne justice. I guess it just depends on if he has the time. We know how busy he is these days!

[JefeStone]

FAD could seriously benefit from a Layne page. There is so much information out there now with a HUGE amount of interest. Wonder if Scott would be interested? There are pics of his condo, his mailbox, his family, last show, all of that. I think it would make a great piece and get a lot more traffic to the site. Anybody know his thoughts on this?

I have yet to see any pics of the inside of the condo. Is there any out there that aren't fake? I think that they would be needed to make the story complete. His last days were spent alone for the most part so much of the story would be speculation.

[JefeStone]

Is this the room? Did he seep through the couch and make that stain? I somehow pictured his carpet to be much dirtier than that.

[SassyMonkey719]

Is this the room? Did he seep through the couch and make that stain? I somehow pictured his carpet to be much dirtier than that.

Ditto. I expected it to to be more dark and gloomy and not so bright and sunny.

[JefeStone]

He probably had blankets over the windows to keep it dark. The window trimmings do match what the windows look like on the facade of the condo building. Those might be the real deal. I found them on a Pantera forum of all places.

[Nessa]

I don't think a Rug Doctor is going to get that out, not even if you use ammonia. Ew.

[erinvarn]

when I think of Layne Staley, I think of one of my old boyfriends that died in a horrible motorcycle accident. He was like a cross between Layne Staley and Kurt Cobain. RIP PJ

[Nessa]

Here ya go, kids!

(Tattoos by Robert Hernandez)