No I don't think she did it on purpose.Originally Posted by scott69
Is this clear to you now or do you need more clarification?
No I don't think she did it on purpose.
Is this clear to you now or do you need more clarification?
Last edited by GrinReaper; 08-26-2009 at 03:11 PM.
There's a lot of answers to this and the one I have right now is because we're a species that likes to judge.
This is so utterly ridiculous.
Administrator
Correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I remember she was going 50 mph in a 55 mph zone. She and her friend were headed to a party and they were probably chatting excitedly about it and she just wasn't paying attention.Thanx
My reason for the post and link was to show that it happened at night.
Scott69 made an earlier claim about something in regards to the sun and glare.
Also on the police reprort under "Light conditions" the box next to "darkness" is checked.
As for the speeds, I didn't realize that it was such a high speed collision.
I imagined that it was slower and on town streets but it was on, I think, rural roads.
Yes, I dislike Laura Bush probably because of the dim watt bulb she married.
But I am not so blinded by my anger that I'm going to start foolishly calling this "murder" or whatever.
Was this an accident? Yes.
Was Laura Bush responsible? Yes
Should she have been charged with anything in regards to manslaughter etc? I don't know. That's up to the courts to decide.
You mean about the high speed thing?
I guess 50 isn't high speeds?
See I was picturing them doing like 10-20 m.p.h. during impact.
So to me, and in my mind, 50-55 was high compared to slower speeds.
Renowned Death Hag
I doubt if the Welch family of 1963 Texas was as powerful as the Kennedy family of 1969 Massachusetts.
Rebecca Gayheart killed someone in a car accident too. Hey! Let's crucify her!!!
Misha
There's already a thread on this.
If you want to discuss Gayheart and her killing, then go over here.
http://www.findadeath.com/forum/show...light=gayheart
(From reading the thread it looks like quite a few have already crucified her.)
Last edited by GrinReaper; 08-26-2009 at 04:16 PM.
Alas, sarcasm goes by the wayside......
Misha
Renowned Death Hag
LOL. I agree.
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Administrator
That wasn't pointed at you. I was just merely stating that she wasn't breaking the speed law. She should have slowed down to stop at the stop sign but she wasn't paying attention.You mean about the high speed thing?
I guess 50 isn't high speeds?
See I was picturing them doing like 10-20 m.p.h. during impact.
So to me, and in my mind, 50-55 was high compared to slower speeds.
So do I. Why can't all just play nicely?
Why or what is seen as ridiculous?
How is this any different than any of the other dozens of threads around here?
The lack of ability to discuss and have opposing views without attacking is what I see as ridiculous. Sadly, this thread is no different from many others, though it does seem a bit more heated. I don't understand why.
Thanx for the clarification.
OK I think we can agree on that.
Have you checked out the Ted Kennedy one?
There are folks who are happy that he died.
I think this is getting heated because it involves politics.
Aren't there sayings or unwritten rules about discussing politics and religion? Those are hot topics and will certainly generate heated stuff on boards.
Last edited by GrinReaper; 08-26-2009 at 11:50 PM.
I didn't even darken the door to the Ted thread. I had a feeling that one would be hotter than I cared to deal with this evening.
I dunno about rules regarding the politics & religion discussions. They do get hot in a hurry. My cousin observed recently that, now more than ever, both sides of the political debate get quickly impatient with the other when neither can see the others point. Very true.
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When I clicked on this thread it took forever to open and I started getting paranoid. I'm asking myself 'are we even allowed to talke about this?' 'Is the CIA going to be knocking down my door warning me not say bad things about George and his?'.
They haven't arrived yet, but I live in Germany so maybe it's taking them longer to get here.
The only reason this was bumped up was to trash Laura Bush b/c the Ted Kennedy debacle was brought up again due to his death. Restarting a thread in retaliation isn't interesting, it's rude.
I am not sure that is was done for "retaliation" per se'.....maybe I am naive but maybe one topic just *reminded* them of a similar situation--that's what happens with me a lot....The only reason this was bumped up was to trash Laura Bush b/c the Ted Kennedy debacle was brought up again due to his death. Restarting a thread in retaliation isn't interesting, it's rude.
Well, I believe the first or second new post brought it up & tried to make some kind of comparison.I am not sure that is was done for "retaliation" per se'.....maybe I am naive but maybe one topic just *reminded* them of a similar situation--that's what happens with me a lot....
Halon's Razor would be useful at this time. Easily applied for the case of MRS. Bush. No so with MR. Kennedy.
I am curious, I know that many crimes and offenses committed by minors are sealed and/or expunged(sp) when they reach their majority. Could this have been a reason for the assumption there was a cover up? I don't believe, nor would anyone in the last 8 years, that the former President would have the foresight to cover up something that happened before he met his wife.
Renowned Death Hag
Laura running the stop sign shows bad judgement
on her part.
She is responsible for a persons death.
Carolyn(1958-2009) always in my heart.
Renowned Death Hag
Yes, you are exactly right.I am not sure that is was done for "retaliation" per se'.....maybe I am naive but maybe one topic just *reminded* them of a similar situation--that's what happens with me a lot....
Carolyn(1958-2009) always in my heart.
I just don't remember ever voting for Laura Bush or seeing her name on a ballot. I don't believe 17 year old Laura held any sort of office that served the public which required personal accountability either. Could I be wrong
Ah, the visual. Had to laugh.The only reason this was bumped up was to trash Laura Bush b/c the Ted Kennedy debacle was brought up again due to his death. Restarting a thread in retaliation isn't interesting, it's rude.
Noooo, never. You're.........right!I just don't remember ever voting for Laura Bush or seeing her name on a ballot. I don't believe 17 year old Laura held any sort of office that served the public which required personal accountability either. Could I be wrong
letting some poor woman drown wasnt an accident he knew she was dying if it was and accident then why didnt he go to the police right away he went the next day if someone else did that they would be in jail by now
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She also wouldn't have drowned if it were anyone else either
Renowned Death Hag
I'm no fan of the Bushes' politics, but this just sounds like a tragic accident to me. I made a lot of stupid mistakes as a new driver at 17, and luckily didn't kill anyone doing them. I ran a yield sign and almost broadsided someone at about the same age. I've had lapses of attention while driving that could have been dangerous in the right conditions. I can't imagine living with the knowledge that I've killed someone in a momentary lapse of attention or judgment, even accidentally.
I'm not even going to stray into any political debate about Laura Welch Bush or Ted Kennedy. The deeds have nothing to do with their political affiliation. Stupid excuse to make it a political fight.
I had a hunch that's why you thought this was ridiculous.The only reason this was bumped up was to trash Laura Bush b/c the Ted Kennedy debacle was brought up again due to his death. Restarting a thread in retaliation isn't interesting, it's rude.
Thanx for the explanation anyway.
Excuse me but I think this belongs on either the thread about Ted Kennedy and/or the one on MJK.
Renowned Death Hag
The reason I started this thread is very simple,
People who live in glass houses should not throw stones.
Because you can't think about Ted Kennedy and Mary Jo Kopechne.
Without thinking about Laura Welch (soon to be Laura Bush)
and Michael Dutton Douglas.
They are two in the same.
Dead is Dead.
Last edited by theotherlondon; 08-28-2009 at 04:10 PM.
Carolyn(1958-2009) always in my heart.
Renowned Death Hag
comparing the actions of a unknown 17 year old schoolgirl to that of a powerful and rich senator is just plain stupid.
by the way, Laura Welch's accident happened in 1963, she married Bush in 1977, 14 years later ( soon to be ???). At least have some facts straight when you are making a stupid argument.
Renowned Death Hag
Sorry are you a Mike Harris fan boy and when you call a person
names like "stupid" again I will report you to the mods for breaking
the rules.
Last edited by theotherlondon; 08-28-2009 at 09:06 PM.
Carolyn(1958-2009) always in my heart.
From what I've observed:
It seems to me that this was started not to make a comparison but because the Chappaqudick incident is a reminder to some about the Laura Bush accident.
And I suppose that Chapp. is coming up with the recent death of Ted Kennedy.
But since the idea of comparison is brought up, there are similarities.
Both are car accidents.
Both involved the death of someone.
Both survivors were the drivers.
In one way or another both drivers were involved in politics.
I don't think the odds are that great since there are millions of cars and drivers on the roads.
In some ways it is like apples to oranges yet in others it's like apples to apples IMO.
Peace and take care.
Who's Mike Harris
Renowned Death Hag
I am so glad you asked, Mike Harris was the Premier of OntarioWho's Mike Harris
from 1995-2001 who basically failed us as a people plus our
way of life.
He hated poor single Mothers,Natvie Canadians, Gays, Blacks, or
anybody else who was not a straight-rich-white-Canadian.
Also was responsable for two deaths, Dudley George and Kimberly
Rogers.
Sad but true.
Carolyn(1958-2009) always in my heart.
Interesting. Can you start a thread on him? I'd like to learn more.
Renowned Death Hag
Nope, sorry just like our Conservative Prime Minister Stephen Harper,
this left wing Liberal myself would just want to forget about them all until
Canada's next election in the fall.(I hope)
Carolyn(1958-2009) always in my heart.
Renowned Death Hag
Guess I was told.
Carolyn(1958-2009) always in my heart.
I disagree with this. Not that "dead is NOT dead," because, of course it is. But I would think any reasonable person would agree that the way one dies does play a part in how others think about their death. An accidental death is thought of differently than murder (I'm not comparing Mary Jo and Michael Douglas with this). But someone who dies, like Sonny Bono, in a skiing accident is thought of differently than someone, like Laci Peterson, who died at the hands of her own husband. So I can think about Ted Kennedy and Mary Jo, without thinking about Laura Bush very easily.Quote:
Originally Posted by theotherlondon
The reason I started this thread is very simple,
People who live in glass houses should not throw stones.
Because you can't think about Ted Kennedy and Mary Jo Kopechne.
Without thinking about Laura Welch (soon to be Laura Bush)
and Michael Dutton Douglas.
They are two in the same.
Dead is Dead.
Misha
Funny, I can too.
Death Hag
I'm a raging liberal and I have no problem with it either. Regardless of anyone's feelings about Chappaquidick, Laura Bush had nothing to do with it. And Teddy had nothing to do with the death of Michael Douglas (if only it were the actor, then Catherine Zeta-Jones would be mine all MINE!). The two do not need to be compared or reminiscent of each other.
The cruel, uneventful state
of apathy releases me
I value them but I won't cry every time one's wiped out
Cash called your action stupid and your arguement stupid, not you. Now go and tell the mods I spoke harshly to you.
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Yes, there are so many similarities, Laura was a 17 year old highschooler, Teddy was 36 and running for the senate. The list goes on and on...
Well that's bound to happen any time now.
This thread proves that at 17 Laura Bush was a G-damned cold blooded killer. Im convinced, let this thread run its full justifiable course
I think of one of the Kennedy offspring throwing a football while skiing down a hill and hitting a tree and dying. I think it was the trees fault...
Last edited by Duke Six; 08-29-2009 at 11:17 PM.
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