Princess Diana

[Alanwench]

Wow. Did she ever look gorgeous. So.... regal. Fitting eh?

It would be so nice if Charles could just conveniently keel over from a coronary before his mother passes on. Poor Camilla would be beside herself!

I LOVE the way you think! Ol' horseface would have a whinnying fit before lighting up yet another toxic cigarette.

[NineTails20]

I just think the Queen made "Royal" exceptions for her precious Charles. Kinda like she bent the rules to suit her. I would have more respect for Charles and Camilla if he had given up his place in line for the crown as other royals have in their situation.

From what I understand (could be wrong) Queenie knew about his feelings for Camilla way before Di and she forbid him see her, much less marry her to keep the up royal broohaha (did I just type that). She didn't care about anyone's feelings, just heirs and staying "royal". That wasnt fair to Di or Charles.

While I agree with what you're saying, I'm reminded of the Abdication Crisis. The Queen was 10 when her uncle gave up the throne for Wallis Simpson. She saw the effect the whole thing had on her mother and father; the Queen Mother never forgave Edward VIII. She blamed him for the early death of George VI. Maybe after seeing the stresses and trouble that caused, the Queen thought that what she was doing was for the best.

[Tiffany]

I would hate to even think to see the picture, but according to yahoo.com news, there is a rumor that a "new" gruesome picture from the night of when she died is leaked. I have seen only one picture of the crash from the font and it looks like Diana is laying on her back, her head is turned to the left and there is blood everywhere.

[rucyco2]

Show them Don't show them. Whatever. From an American perspective I've seen JFK's head blown apart so I don't see the big deal but different strokes for different folks.

[soaring_butterfly]

pyt- where did you see that?

[Reecy]

^ ^

In Dallas don't you remember when brain matter sputtered out onto Jacqueline's crisp pink suit?

[Alice_Layne]

Now I could be wrong, so correct me if I am, but I don't feel like the "Queen Mum" is as perfect as they want us to believe. The fact that she allowed her son to marry his long time mistress and is allowing him to still one day be King is against everything "royal". Camilla makes me wanna puke everytime I see her. Not because of anything Diana, just the fact that she is there. If Charles wanted her, he shoulda married her in the first place. What made her "okay" after Di's death?

I think that is why people loved Di so much because she was the closest thing to "real yet royal" on the scene. I don't think she was perfect, but I can see where she felt trapped by an overbearing MIL and a husband who was screwing his "high school sweetheart" from day one. I think she figured WTF, he is doing what he wants I will too. Which may not be the right way to handle things, but I have never been in the "royal loop" so I don't really know what is right.

Di did put her foot down when it came to her boys and allowed them to be raised as normal as possible. They got to go to Disney, see the world with their eyes and not through a tutor from a dungeon somewhere. I think that burned Queenie up too, but I think they have turned out just fine.

Shejay-are you aware of the rumours re Prince Andrews' parentage?

It's been known for years here that his father was Earl Carnavon-The Queen was supposed to have had an affair when she discovered Phillip was carrying on with her cousin! (He's had plenty of dalliances!)

http://www.experts123.com/q/does-the...-children.html

[Tiffany]

THIS IS AN OLDER LINK BUT THE PICTURE I MENTIONED IS THERE:


http://images.search.yahoo.com/image...&fr=fp-tts-701









BREAKING NEWS: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ac/20110513/...exploitative_1





https://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/14682

[rucyco2]

THIS IS AN OLDER LINK BUT THE PICTURE I MENTIONED IS THERE

I looked at them and my opinion is that I've seen worse. But I can also see where a non-hag would be offended.

I would leave it at this: Don't want to see them, don't go see the movie.

[Tiffany]

Hey I'm just the messenger lol. but yea I agree however some people are just curious as to what this movie will entail in it...

[rucyco2]

Hey I'm just the messenger lol

[King Cryo-le]

THIS IS AN OLDER LINK BUT THE PICTURE I MENTIONED IS THERE:


http://images.search.yahoo.com/image...&fr=fp-tts-701









BREAKING NEWS: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ac/20110513/...exploitative_1





https://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/14682

That first picture is fake, it's from a british car crash :


excerpt from a 1997 article about that picture :

A spokesman for Paris criminal police told Reuters today: "This is not a picture of Princess Diana's accident. It's a fake." Rescuers in the picture were not wearing standard French emergency services gear, he added. Also, a three-digit emergency phone number in the background--999--was not a French number and appeared to be British.


The new documentary "Unlawful Killing" won't show any new pictures, they will just show the image that rjbrasher posted :

http://www.anorak.co.uk/wp-content/u...ath-picure.jpg


A spokesman for the filmmakers said: â??The picture has been published in full before, in many parts of the world. We acquired the image from an Italian magazine, which had already published it in full. It is also widely available on the web.
â??We are therefore not publishing anything that the rest of the world has not already seen elsewhere.â??

[Alice_Layne]

Hey I'm just the messenger lol. but yea I agree however some people are just curious as to what this movie will entail in it...

Those images are fake I believe. Personally, I have no problem withn the image being shown in this film.
I have seen the trailer for it-what worries me is it starts with pics of Prince Phillip-when he was young. He attended a 'nazi' school and his brothers in law were nazis. Factual yes, but he also served in the Royal Navy and fought against the Nazis. The trailer is trying to infer Phillip is some sort of creepy sinister Nazi type.

I hope the film really checks its facts and doesnt contain silly inuendo like that-else it will discredit the whole project.
That said, Keith Allen is hardly a respected filmmaker!
I watched some docs he made about Tourettes and it was real 'lowest common denominator' type stuff-cheap insensitive laughs etc No doubt he thought it was groundbreaking/taboo busting.

Think he should stick to acting!

[Alice_Layne]

Youtube wont allow me to paste the link here-if you want to see this trailer, search for Unlawful Killing posted by 2Di4.

[rucyco2]

I have seen the trailer for it-what worries me is it starts with pics of Prince Phillip-when he was young. He attended a 'nazi' school and his brothers in law were nazis. Factual yes, but he also served in the Royal Navy and fought against the Nazis. The trailer is trying to infer Phillip is some sort of creepy sinister Nazi type.

I can't speak for thr trailer - have not seen it. Duing that timeframe there were quite a few British Fascists. Go over to Wikipedia and check out Sir Oswald Mosley

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_Oswald_Mosley

[orionova]

Yes, there were British fascists. There has, to the best of my knowledge, ever been any rumour that Prince Phillip was one. The House of Windser was very much anti-Nazi, and for then Princess Elizabeth to marry a known Nazi would never have been allowed.

[RogerV]

Prince Phillip had three sisters, all married to German princes. They were not invited to his wedding with Elizabeth, nor to her coronation. To this day, they are rarely mentioned.

[Shejay]

Shejay-are you aware of the rumours re Prince Andrews' parentage?

It's been known for years here that his father was Earl Carnavon-The Queen was supposed to have had an affair when she discovered Phillip was carrying on with her cousin! (He's had plenty of dalliances!)

http://www.experts123.com/q/does-the...-children.html

Whoooaaaa - Nice! Thank you for that tidbit of information!! I can see from the comments linked to your article that "the people" are "quite torn" over the matter.

["What Tha....?"]

The only argument I have to those photos possibly being real is that if you click on this link and scoll past the pictures, there is an article titled "The Horror In The Tunnel":
http://ronbosoldier.blogspot.com/200...-pictures.html
It talks about how the black and white picture from Italy, with Diana still in the backseat of the car is pixelated, so we can't see how graphic her facial injuries were. In some of the other links posted above, about the Italian black & white pic, it is not as pixelated and you can vaguely see a few gashes on Diana's face.
I can't be sure if the graphic pics that claim to be of Diana are real. I would think with the major impact the car had with the pole in the tunnel, Diana's face wouldn't be as uninjured as the first doctor on the scene claims it was. I think he might have been trying to be tactful about it, so as not to upset Diana's family or fans any more than they already would be.

[Miho]

Can someone please repost the link for the unpixled pic?

["What Tha....?"]

http://www.anorak.co.uk/wp-content/u...ath-picure.jpg

This is the one I was talking about, Miho. If you look around Diana's eyes you can vaguely see scratches and gashes.

BTW, sorry if the previous website I posted is too "far-right". I wasn't posting the website for political reasons, only for the article and blog about Diana.

["What Tha....?"]

Oh, since we're on the subject of pictures, any pics of Dodi, Henri Paul or Trevor at the crash scene, out there?

[Miho]

Oh, since we're on the subject of pictures, any pics of Dodi, Henri Paul or Trevor at the crash scene, out there?

I have never seen any. Even in a documentary I saw on HBO(?) awhile ago. I can only imagine that they were fucked up. I am surprised she wasn't more of a mess. Especially considering the impact tossed her backwards and ripped her heart apart.

[Miho]

Thanks What Ta :-)

[Serendipitous]

Oh, since we're on the subject of pictures, any pics of Dodi, Henri Paul or Trevor at the crash scene, out there?

I don't think so, but if you look at the picture of Diana, and focus on the area framed by the rescuer's leg and arms, it sort of looks like a face!

[Miho]

Did they ever disclose where the rest of the people were found in the car?

[chrisdr]

There are always theories regarding her death. I do know awhole lot of questions that have not been answered do not add up. When documentaries such as this appear there are always "those" who will do what they can to make it seem this is just a stupid movie filled with lies.

Then there are those that say after almost 15 years we should leave it alone. You got to wonder what have they got to hide?


www.duchessfriends.com

[Miho]

Whenever records are sealed for a period of time it means there is something to hide. Aka Kennedy

[ssors1233]

What a terrible waste of a beautiful person. I hope Kate fares better.

[duchessmary]

I do that Henri Paul's legs were crushed, and Dodi's jeans were ripped open down the crotch, which is weird. The impact must've been horrific.

[rucyco2]

and Dodi's jeans were ripped open down the crotch, which is weird.

Apparently so were Arnold's.

Ba da bum tsh.

[rucyco2]

Whenever records are sealed for a period of time it means there is something to hide. Aka Kennedy

The other thing that they (Kennedy's / Royal Family) have in common is that they both have a boat load of money to use in keeping their dirty laundry selaed up.

[Tiffany]

^^ speaking of Arnold & Kennedy- someone said Arnold's news event is makes the Kennedys look like saints. Ha I don't think so... Kennedys will always be worse with the Kennedy curse, alcoholics, murder..etc. **I know off topic**

[Pat Bateman]

I do that Henri Paul's legs were crushed, and Dodi's jeans were ripped open down the crotch, which is weird. The impact must've been horrific.

Dodi and Henri Paul had their spinal cords severed by the impact.

[Tiffany]

Would Diana, if survived have been perhaps paralyzed from the waist down? Neck broke? What do you think her injuries might have been ?

[chrisdr]

Her leg was broken so she would of eventually walk with a limp. I doubt she would of been paralyzed but she would of had health issues from the accident for the rest of her life..

["What Tha....?"]

I'm still trying to comprehend how much impact the car must have had with the pillar to seperate her heart from the vena cava. This doesn't seem like a very common occurance in a car crash. Especially if you're in the back seat.

[rucyco2]

seperate her heart from the vena cava

Wow really? If that's true I'm surprised that she lasted as long after the accident as she did...I'm surprised that she was not dead at the scene...unless they had to make a token effort like they did with JFK

["What Tha....?"]

Originally Posted by "What Tha....?"
seperate her heart from the vena cava

Had to search for where I read this before. It was posted in this thread previously:

Her heart was bascially ripped away from the vena cava, if I am understanding it correctly. I don't know how they could have saved her without knowing what was wrong immediately. I'm sure she bled out very quickly.

I'm guessing that this previous post is factual. I had to google what the vena cava is. Still not quite sure I understand what it means. Any Cardiologists out there?
Closest I could determine, the valves that are attached to the heart were ripped away from the heart at the time of impact. YIKES! What a way to die!

[Tiffany]

Yes I'm assuming for something like that to happen the car had to have hit the object at... I"m only estimating and guessing here, what 125mph..??? Someone please do explain because I too am interested in learning how a heart can literally, break apart, from an autombile accident.

[duchessmary]

I'm not an expert, but from what I've read the princess was thrown so violently (no seat belt) that she ended up on the floor, facing the rear of the car, one leg bent under her. One of her earrings was found embedded in the dashboard of the car. The car was going about 65 mph, and became airborne at the entrance of the tunnel. (I've been in that tunnel. Those pillars are wicked looking) It hit the pillar, spun around, coming to rest facing the entrance of the tunnel. Her heart was literally torn loose.

[Tiffany]

Just reading that makes my stomach turn. I'm almost glad Diana is at peace.

[STsFirstmate]

Her injuries and everyone in the car's injuries were awful. Given that she was reported to be conscious and after the accident appeared to be aware of what was going on around her I hate that the last memory she has was the paparazzi swarming the car and snapping pics of her and the other as she was dying.
Death hag though I may be these guys turned my stomach and it upset me that they were never held even partially accountable for accident, drunk chauffeur aside.
Regards,
Mary

[Tiffany]

Yes she was even talking ; Diana said something like "my god what happened?". My stomach is just turning knowing she was conscious.

[duchessmary]

She didn't say anything. This was verified by the physician on scene. She was out of it. A small blessing, perhaps.

[STsFirstmate]

She didn't say anything. This was verified by the physician on scene. She was out of it. A small blessing, perhaps.

That is good to know thanks! I guess her final words stories were just one of those urban myth sort of deals. I prefer to go with what you are saying. That gives me a bit if peace about it!
regards,
Mary

[Miho]

On the documentary that I saw the first doctor who found her said the only thing he heard her say was "Go away" and "stop."

I also remember in that documentary they said the hospital was very close by, but it took a very long time to get there because of her heart condition. She would flatline and they would have to stop to revive her because of the injuries.. Let me see if I can find it somewhere...

[Miho]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb7YV...eature=related

[Miho]

The one I am thinking of is called Diana: Witnesses in the TUnnel

["What Tha....?"]

SHAZAAM! Once again, Miho's on her game! Thanks Constitution State Gal!