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Thread: Dr. Harold Perelson Murder/Suicide

  1. #251
    BigBootyJudy Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by BelleRain View Post
    oooo ya i bet that might work. We could wear some low cut shirts, tight pants. Im in
    That was my thought, we need to go the most simple and one of oldest way, low cut shirts and just keep the story that we are just regular people who happened upon the house. Wait, does this sound like a bad porno to anyone else?

  2. #252
    Lisamarie Guest
    big booty judy and bellrain I am putting on my pushup bra now...lets go!

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    This thread is soooo intriguing to me and I'm dying to know the connection of the owner to the Perelsons as well as dying to see inside the darn house! I live about two miles from this place and the weekend before last, went up there to check it out. I'm sorry I didn't have my camera with me so no photos... It's on a small, cul-de-sac (I think-I was too busy looking at the house) with a couple of very close neighbors and a security sign posted. I was going to walk up the stairs and and into the yard but I have to admit, the security sign worked! For being abandoned 50 years, the house actually looks in pretty good shape. The yard is overgrown but not 50 years worth. In the 2nd story window you can see the shadow of a staircase and that's what got me... I could imagine the family using the staircase 50 years ago. It's a very beautiful, creepy house.

  4. #254
    Sam Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by Lisamarie View Post
    big booty judy and bellrain I am putting on my push up bra now...lets go!
    OK Lisamarie, I don't even have to imagine you in a "push up" bra! I can see it now.
    Just drive to Ft. Worth and we'll take it from here. You won't even have to put it on until we get close to the house and then you can go into your "Marylin Monroe, Jayne Mansfield, Ginger Grant, Anna Nichole Smith, persona/voice".
    Tell your husband you're safe with me because I'm Gay and then we'll go!

    We'll pick up Big Booty Judy and BelleRain on the way there and I'll play the "Nerdy Birdwatcher"! LOL!
    If a cop shows up we'll at least know ONE OF US can take him in the bushes and make him forget about our trespassing!
    If there's more than one cop then there must be enough of us to go around!
    After all, it IS L.A. !
    Last edited by Sam; 03-23-2009 at 06:08 PM.

  5. #255
    Lisamarie Guest
    Sam...Its on!!!

  6. #256
    BigBootyJudy Guest
    We can always use more partners in crime! Safety in numbers people! Now I am seriously beginning to wonder if playing dumb would work to achieve some kind of info, interview with the owner a brief photo op etc? The worst they could do was tell us to leave right? Maybe we could claim some sort of relation to the previous owners of the house before the Perelson's and not even mention them? The evil wheels are turning now, I need to think more on this..........

  7. #257
    Shamrocker99 Guest
    I am glad to see some of you coming up with great ideas (:::evil ideas:: about getting in there! Now we are talking! Wish I could make the trip too

  8. #258
    Hawk Guest
    Haven't been here in a while but stopped in today and wow, this is a cool story.

    I love old abandoned buildings.

    Am I the only one that wonders if there might be a couple old cars in the garage.

    Also, does any one think that the surviving children at some point in their lives may have "stopped by" the old house??

  9. #259
    Lisamarie Guest
    I wonder great point...I would....then again Im not right in the head....

  10. #260
    Sam Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    Am I the only one that wonders if there might be a couple old cars in the garage.
    I'm a car nut so that's one of the first things I thought of!
    There was an abandoned mansion and I mean MANSION in Lampasas, TX in the late 60's (lots of furniture,cosmetics, even lotion and Kleenex still in there) and there was a 1949 Cadillac limousine in the garage. By the time a couple of my friends got up the nerve to go up there and look there wasn't anything in the garage but the tire tracks where it had sat for almost 20 years.

  11. #261
    RogerV Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by Sam View Post
    I'm a car nut so that's one of the first things I thought of!
    There was an abandoned mansion and I mean MANSION in Lampasas, TX in the late 60's (lots of furniture,cosmetics, even lotion and Kleenex still in there) and there was a 1949 Cadillac limousine in the garage. By the time a couple of my friends got up the nerve to go up there and look there wasn't anything in the garage but the tire tracks where it had sat for almost 20 years.
    It would be an incredible find if it turned out there were a couple old cars in the garage... didn't the article say that a note or letter was found in the daughter's sports car (make not mentioned). Half ashamed to admit I didn't go back to look, and this is my thread!

    However, I'd guess that cars probably would have been taken to help pay the debts of the estate, or they even might have been repossessed if they weren't paid for.

    Still, I can dream that there's a 1958 Imperial sitting there, just waiting to be discovered...

  12. #262
    Sam Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by RogerV View Post
    It would be an incredible find if it turned out there were a couple old cars in the garage... didn't the article say that a note or letter was found in the daughter's sports car (make not mentioned). Half ashamed to admit I didn't go back to look, and this is my thread!

    However, I'd guess that cars probably would have been taken to help pay the debts of the estate, or they even might have been repossessed if they weren't paid for.

    Still, I can dream that there's a 1958 Imperial sitting there, just waiting to be discovered...
    The Imperial would be wonderful, but what about a Porsche or a Jaguar?


    Isn't this photo taken in front of the "Clampett Mansion"?

  13. #263
    RogerV Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by Sam View Post
    The Imperial would be wonderful, but what about a Porsche or a Jaguar?

    We could put it in the trunk of the Imperial


    Isn't this photo taken in front of the "Clampett Mansion"?
    Not completely sure about that, but do know that those Ghia-bodied Imperial limousines are quite rare.

  14. #264
    Dixie Girl Guest
    This thread utterly fascinates me...I cannot wait to see if y'all get in there! Pics, pics, and more pics!

  15. #265
    ksol Guest
    just bumping this, has anyone been by there yet???

  16. #266
    Sam Guest
    I told my mother about it yesterday and she was fascinated!
    When we lived in Lampasas in the early 1970's there was a one story Spanish style white stucco house with a red tile roof that had been locked up sometime in the late 1950's. An elderly couple had owned it and both had died fairly close together. The house had been sitting just as it was when they died and had never been put up for sale.
    We drove past it many times and we were just dieing to see inside it, but a next door neighbor took care of the place by mowing the lawn, etc.
    We wouldn't even go up and peek in the windows because my father was a policeman and we could just imagine the scandal if we were caught!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ksol View Post
    just bumping this, has anyone been by there yet???

    I was in LA last weekend to see friends and my favorite musicians and didn't have the time to go!!! I wish I had. One of my friends knows someone who lives in the neighborhood and maybe if I ask nicely, I'll ask for some photos.
    It's hard to ride at night...on your bicycle with no lights to guide...just take a chance and ride. Olson and Louris

  18. #268
    GAdeathhag Guest
    shit----- I cant take it anymore----- someone out there gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo please

  19. #269
    burgtwngrl Guest
    Darn when the thread got bumped I thought someone went up there

  20. #270
    BooMom Guest
    I did too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RogerV View Post
    Not completely sure about that, but do know that those Ghia-bodied Imperial limousines are quite rare.
    Yes, that's the Clampett mansion. I think it's the back view according to trivia that I've read about the show.
    "What if the Hokey Pokey is what it's really all about?" Jimmy Buffett

  22. #272
    Old Soul Guest
    Geeze i loose the net for two weeks and i come back hoping to see some pictures of this place and zip! I live a litte more than one hour away from LA otherwise this would have been done by now!!

  23. #273
    pvezz Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by BooMom View Post
    I did too.
    Me, too - LOL

  24. #274
    RogerV Guest
    I started this thread, and at this point I have to go back and re-read the story... I'm forgetting the details!

  25. #275
    GAdeathhag Guest
    sobs violently in a tissue-- waiting for more news

  26. #276
    NOVSTORM Guest
    Going to LA in June and am taking new camera has this new thing for taking pics at night ..I am printing out the directions and grand daughter who is a DH too and I are going first in day time to get the lay out and then at night so we can get closer to the house... She says we bhave to dress like Ninjas..so ok we should be able to get some good shots..look for the pics in JULY

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    yay Nov--you rock!
    I told my lawyer he's better step it up or we would both end up on an episode of "SNAPPED"

  28. #278
    RogerV Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by NOVSTORM View Post
    Going to LA in June and am taking new camera has this new thing for taking pics at night ..I am printing out the directions and grand daughter who is a DH too and I are going first in day time to get the lay out and then at night so we can get closer to the house... She says we bhave to dress like Ninjas..so ok we should be able to get some good shots..look for the pics in JULY
    I have been told that when one is making like a Ninja, black is not the best color to wear, because it's TOO dark. Recommended colors are dark gray and dark blue (so I've been told)

  29. #279
    Mrs. Watson Guest
    Completely enthralled with this story.

    What a beautiful beautiful house!

    Roger, thank you for this most awesome thread and everyone else who has added info.

    Definately a link between the current owner and the Doctor. Gotta be.

  30. #280
    Lily_Aleister Guest
    I went searching on a drunken mission last night, and found it. My friend insisted people were living there since there were trash cans, a basketball hoop, and most of the lights turned on in the house.

  31. #281
    Dixie Girl Guest
    I can't wait to hear from you, Lily!

  32. #282
    Lily_Aleister Guest
    I wasn't sure if it was the right one until I just saw the photo of the house again. It was definitely the house. It looked really occupied as well.

  33. #283
    RogerV Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by Lily_Aleister View Post
    I wasn't sure if it was the right one until I just saw the photo of the house again. It was definitely the house. It looked really occupied as well.

    If it is occupied, there is good news, and there is bad news. The good news is that a beautiful, historic, infamous house is going to be preserved. The bad news is that were're not going to know just what artifacts were found in the house, and what was in the unopened presents. That is unless the current occupants write a book or magazine article...

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    Darn it, those unopened presents intrigue me. I want to know what was in them!
    Just drink lots of Kool-Aid, and take one of these blue pills three times a day.

  35. #285
    Lily_Aleister Guest
    I need to go up during the daytime. But there was a basketball hoop and trash bins waiting to be picked up at the curb. Lots of lights inside the house on as well.

  36. #286
    I♥TinyTim Guest
    "The criminal-case part was solved quickly enough. Homicide investigators found that Dr. Harold Perelson bludgeoned his wife to death with a ball-peen hammer, savagely beat their 18-year-old daughter and then fatally poisoned himself by gulping a glass of acid."

    Yeah, because all that killing makes one thirsty.

    Seriously, though, great post! Very interesting! Wish there were more pics. Are there any crime scene pics?

  37. #287
    Lisamarie Guest
    I know one of seriousely need to join the freakin lapd so we can smuggle out the booty of crime scene pics thay have !!!!!!!

  38. #288
    GAdeathhag Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by Lily_Aleister View Post
    I went searching on a drunken mission last night, and found it. My friend insisted people were living there since there were trash cans, a basketball hoop, and most of the lights turned on in the house.
    gawwwdddd--- get drunk again and take a camera

  39. #289
    Sam Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by GAdeathhag View Post
    gawwwdddd--- get drunk again and take a camera
    LOL! And make sure it is the same house.

  40. #290
    RogerV Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by Lily_Aleister View Post
    I need to go up during the daytime. But there was a basketball hoop and trash bins waiting to be picked up at the curb. Lots of lights inside the house on as well.
    Actually, I think I'd prefer to have you sober when you go again . Were you able to tell what kind of shape the yard is in? If it looks like it's being taken care of, (and considering the other evidence) then I'd say that it's definitely occupied.

    Personally, I wouldn't have any problems living in a house where a brutal murder/suicide took place. I wouldn't even mind busloads of death hags driving by (as long as they behaved themselves).

  41. #291
    RogerV Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by I♥TinyTim View Post
    "The criminal-case part was solved quickly enough. Homicide investigators found that Dr. Harold Perelson bludgeoned his wife to death with a ball-peen hammer, savagely beat their 18-year-old daughter and then fatally poisoned himself by gulping a glass of acid."

    Yeah, because all that killing makes one thirsty.

    Seriously, though, great post! Very interesting! Wish there were more pics. Are there any crime scene pics?
    We had a number of people dig into this, and find that there's not much information. There MIGHT be some crime scene photos in a cardboard box in some dusty warehouse somewhere, but they have yet to be discovered if they do exist.

    My feeling is that the case was closed very quickly, possibly more quickly than it would have been today. The childred where whisked off to the East Coast to live with relatives, and if they're still alive, they aren't talking.

    I remarked on the acid thing before... wouldn't a doctor have had access to something a little less painful??

  42. #292
    ksol Guest
    can someone befriend the new occupants???

  43. #293
    Lily_Aleister Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by GAdeathhag View Post
    gawwwdddd--- get drunk again and take a camera
    Much too dark for photos. The flash would be especially obvs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sam View Post
    LOL! And make sure it is the same house.
    Trust, it was.

    Quote Originally Posted by RogerV View Post
    Actually, I think I'd prefer to have you sober when you go again . Were you able to tell what kind of shape the yard is in? If it looks like it's being taken care of, (and considering the other evidence) then I'd say that it's definitely occupied.
    I think it will be sober and during the day. The yard was in impeccable shape, the house definitely has people living in it currently.

  44. #294
    trose Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by RogerV View Post
    I remarked on the acid thing before... wouldn't a doctor have had access to something a little less painful??
    I'm sure that he did. However, wasn't this a spur of the moment thing? Maybe the acid was the closest thing he had at hand.

    I hope if someone is living in the house they are happy - after such tragedy, the house deserves happy people in it.

  45. #295
    RogerV Guest
    I'm sure that he did. However, wasn't this a spur of the moment thing? Maybe the acid was the closest thing he had at hand.
    I don't think we know if it was a spur of the moment thing or not. We know that the family was in conflict -- apparently living beyond its means, and the doctor MAY have been committed by his wife for treatment of mental illness. Public knowledge of this would of course have destroyed his practice.

    Some accounts say "poison" instead of "acid." It's also possible that he took something like prussic acid, which is one name for cyanide.

    I hope if someone is living in the house they are happy - after such tragedy, the house deserves happy people in it.
    I hope that it's a happy home also. My other wish is that the house be preserved in its original style, and not be "modernized."

  46. #296
    Sam Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by RogerV View Post
    Some accounts say "poison" instead of "acid." It's also possible that he took something like prussic acid, which is one name for cyanide.

    Wow, you learn something new every day! I wondered why Lizzie Borden was trying to buy Prussic Acid, now it makes sense.



    I hope that it's a happy home also. My other wish is that the house be preserved in its original style, and not be "modernized."
    Somehow I doubt it will be happy, or preserved, not in Los Angles anyway.

  47. #297
    RogerV Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by Sam View Post
    Somehow I doubt it will be happy, or preserved, not in Los Angles anyway.
    You're probably right about that, though I'd think at a minimum the house would have to be re-wired and re-plumbed to be habitable. It probably had most of its original 1920's era wiring with a few additions when the Perelsons lived there in the 1950's. Same for the plumbing, and just sitting for 50 years is not good for either system.

  48. #298
    ksol Guest
    anyone been by there yet????

  49. #299
    Dixie Girl Guest
    Yep, they have..the house is now occupied.

  50. #300
    GAdeathhag Guest
    we still need new pics....................new mailbox shot......... creepy window shot........

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