Here's a completely different take on this. I think stupidity and irresponsibility are the culprits, not this.
Roe v. Wade responsible for woman having 14 kids
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Here's a completely different take on this. I think stupidity and irresponsibility are the culprits, not this.
Roe v. Wade responsible for woman having 14 kids
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What frys my ass, is that when asked how she was gonna take care of these kids..She said oh I'm gonna have help from friends, family, and the curch....Stupid cunt, how the fuck are you gonna pay to finish your Masters Degree???? Is the church, friends, and family gonna foot the bill for that too. Fuck me man!
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/
So there is a interview with the dingbats mother who is so pissed that her daughter did this.
Also are a few pictures of the interior of the house and some kids. It is on the border of being a trash house. Clothes are piling out of closets, sheets serve as curtains and the reporter called the home "filthy with food smeared all over the walls"
Thats really nice.
So the mother is on record saying that there is no plan to take care of these children. It's obvious her daughter is a fruitcake. It's time for CPS to come into the picture, to make sure these babies have a safe home and are cared for. Or even better, they should make the doctor who did this pay for their care. He should be held accountable in some way, because this woman is in no way capable of making this decision.
OMG!! What a mess!!! I can't imagine having 6 kids in that mess let alone 14, with eight of them being preemies! And they have to feed kids in shifts?! WTF?! I feel horrible for her Mother, but in a way feel like her and her father enabled her to have all of these kids. What would have happened if they would have stopped paying her bills and kick her out after baby #3, or #4? She probably wouldn't have had anymore!Originally Posted by lisalouver
Jeez, it just keeps getting better and better! I wonder when DFS will come in?!
Senior Death Hag
I really feel for the grandmother. She looks tired and she shouldn't be expected to care for all these kids.
I have 2 grandsons. They were here ALL weekend...I'm still tired. When my daughter, SIL and both babies were living here, it was crazy. Along with my 3 boys, myself and my husband it was a total of 9 people living in a 5 bedroom nearly 3000 square foot home and it was crowded. I can't imagine what these grandparents are going through. They shouldn't have to deal with this so late in their lives.
The mother is a selfish, personality disordered witch. She has no clue or doesn't care about anything but what SHE wants.
"Dying is just nature's way of saying, hey, you're not alive anymore!"
oops!
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Is it me or is this chick using the old "oh, my childhood" excuse like so many other fuck ups? I'm an only child and sometimes I thought it would be fun to have a sibling, but hell, people grow up. Once I got older, I realized kids don't stay cute little babies forever and they cost friggin' money. Lots of money!
I seriously hope whatever mental problem she suffers from isn't hereditary because she is deluded with a capitol "D". How the hell did she even pay for all this IVF anyway? My broke ass can't even go to the doctor and this out of work dillhole can go get that done repeatedly? Something in the milk ain't clean.
"You live alone, creating your life as you go." - Edie Sedgwick
Renowned Death Hag
Those poor little babies, they are the victims here. I hope they will be allright, but they already have such a bad start.
Some people just need a high five.... in the face.... with a chair...
The mom - Nadya - is stupid beyond belief. Her mom - Angela - looked like she was either exhausted, or plastered on alcohol/drugs, based that the radaronline video. As for the living conditions, can't really call it "living" at all. It's filthy beyond reason, and it's more like existing in squalor. CPS had better step in big time and take ALL 14 kids away, and have Nadya committed indefinitely. That girl is crazier than batshit. She is not fooling anyone, and the doctor that did all of her ivf's better be held beyond accountable. It's girls like this that are the reason behind why I say "Just because you CAN, does NOT mean you SHOULD." I don't care if ivf, natural, turkey baster, etc was used. It's the continually having kids that pisses me off.
Renowned Death Hag
They showed them on the Today show this morning and it made me so sick with sadness. I hope they are taken care of--they deserve better than what their irresponsible mother has to offer them. It's such a sad situation for them. She's just relying on faith that they will be taken care of. Her parents have sacrificed so much for her, and now her dad is back overseas trying to make money to support everyone. It's just such a disaster.
Seeing that house makes me so sad. If it looks like that now, what will it look like with 8 babies? I just keep imagining them crying--how can you comfort more than 2 at a time when they're fussy? Even two would be hard.
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Yes ..... where the fuck is CPS?? There is NO WAY all these kids can be cared for in her circumstances
Maybe CPS is just waiting to see if she gets her 2 million or whatever form Oprah...or any other 'contibutors' come forward...the whole situation is sickening....
Donna...that is exactly what I was thinking when I saw the first sad "peak tidbit" of the interview friday night... that is coming tonight on Dateline.She looks like a female Joker (ala Jack Nicholson in Batman)....Love that Joker
from Perez hilton:
Joker from Batman
Compare and see
Does anyone else think she has had some work done on her face or lips. She just looks alittle bit UN-normal...whatever???
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This is the latest: Sounds like her mother is beyond pissed. Good bet her dad is too...DUH!
Octuplets' grandmother criticizes daughter
Mon Feb 9, 8:55 am ET
Play Video ABC News – Octuplet Birth Raises Ethical Concerns
AP – This image provided by NBC shows Nadya Suleman, left, speaking with Ann Curry in New York on Thursday, …
LOS ANGELES – The mother of the woman who used a fertility doctor to give birth to octuplets, despite already having six young children, called her daughter's actions "unconscionable" in an interview posted online.
Angela Suleman is caring for the six older children while her daughter is hospitalized after giving birth Jan. 26 to the octuplets.
"She already has six beautiful children, why would she do this?" Angela Suleman said in the videotaped interview with celebrity news Web site RadarOnline.com. "I'm struggling to look after her six. We had to put in bunk beds, feed them in shifts and there's children's clothing piled all over the house."
The Web site posted photographs Sunday from inside Angela Suleman's disheveled three-bedroom home, where Nadya and her brood also live. Heaps of clothing pour from an open closet door and a carpeted bedroom, where a bedsheet serves as a curtain, is cluttered with cribs.
Nadya Suleman's publicist Mike Furtney said that his client has been away for nearly two months, so shouldn't be held responsible for the home's current condition.
Furtney said his client planned to move into a larger home once the octuplets were healthy enough to leave doctors' care.
He declined to comment on any of the remarks Angela Suleman made about her daughter in the interview.
"Those are very personal issues between a mother and a daughter," he said.
Angela Suleman said Nadya's boyfriend was the biological father of all 14 children, but that she refused to marry him.
"He was in love with her and wanted to marry her," she said. "But Nadya wanted to have children on her own."
Nadya Suleman, a divorced single mother, told NBC's "Today" show that the same fertility specialist provided in-vitro fertilization for all 14 of her children.
Angela Suleman seemed to contradict that account, saying the fertility specialist who helped her daughter give birth to the octuplets was a different doctor from the one who aided in the birth of her first six children.
Angela Suleman said she and her husband pleaded with Nadya's first fertility doctor not to treat their daughter again, so Nadya found another doctor to work with.
"I'm really angry about that," Angela Suleman said of the doctor's decision to perform the procedure.
A Medical Board of California spokeswoman said Friday that it was investigating the doctor — who has not been identified — to see if there was a "violation of the standard of care." The spokeswoman did not elaborate on the nature of the potential violations.
Angela Suleman also challenged her daughter's remarks in the NBC interview that she always wanted a large family to make up for the loneliness she felt as an only child.
"We raised her in a loving family and her father always spoiled her," Angela said.
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Remember the fish Mr. Limpet? You got it !!!!!!!
LOL Mr Limpet ..... didn't Don Knotts do the voice for him?
Yeah we pay for everything here.
I just read that we have also been supporting murderer Tex Watson's
4 children.
And now this dumbasses kids I guess.
I won't watch anything on her. She seems to have had these kids
for $.
Yeah we pay for everything here.
I just read that we have also been supporting murderer Tex Watson's
4 children.
And now this dumbasses kids I guess.
I won't watch anything on her. She seems to have had these kids
for $.
yap, $$$ and attention, it seems
Ya know its so crazy, because all she has gotten is negative attention. I mean people now know that you live in a filthy house with food smeared all over the walls.
I guess negative attention is better than none.
Renowned Death Hag
Funny you should say that, because today she was mentioned on
www.awfulplasticsurgery.com
Some people just need a high five.... in the face.... with a chair...
LOL Mr Limpet ..... didn't Don Knotts do the voice for him?
Yes and the character had that same hinged mouth.
While I am first to admit that I have no clear understanding about California's economy, aside from what I've read here from our CA hags and also admitting that I certainly have no dog in the fight when it comes to reproductive rights; one thought that has crossed my mind is that perhaps the State of California could better afford to look after the 14 kids of this whackjob woman, other kids in need as well as many other concerns if there were income from marriage licenses to same sex couples again. Perhaps I'm just talking out of turn, from my own odd corner of the world, yet the economy of our entire country would get a shot in the arm if EVERYONE were allowed to marry. The marriage/divorce industry is HUGE, this is an undisputable fact. Another fact, (even though there has only been a short period of my life where I experienced it personally) generally speaking, same sex couples have a higher household income level than our heterosexual counterparts. This may be a gay myth...I can accept criticism and will gladly retract my supposition when proof of the converse is offered. I will not, however, retract my feelings that the octo-mom is a selfish baby hoarder who has no means to feed her 14 kids, much less to provide for their other physical & emotional needs. Children are not collectibles...and deserve better than what that woman can provide. The state of California is the only party that is being screwed.
Renowned Death Hag
I completely agree DJ.
Wanna see my grandkids?
This woman has a serious case of trout-pout.
Toss her a minnow.
Roe Vs Wade is responsible? Holy crap on a cracker some people will reach for an angle.
It's your right to own a car. It's a RESPONSIBILITY to be able to care for the children you bring into the world.
Reproductive rights my ass.
LOS ANGELES —
The Southern California mother of octuplets receives $490 a month in food stamps and three of her first six children are disabled and receiving federal assistance, her publicist confirmed Monday evening. Spokesman Michael Furtney said Suleman did not want to disclose the nature of the disabilities, or the type or sum of the payments.
Furtney confirmed the public assistance payments after two sources told The Los Angeles Times that Suleman was receiving food stamps and federal supplemental security income.
"In her view these are just payments made for people with legitimate needs and are not, in her view, welfare," Furtney said. "She just believes that there are programs for people with needs and she and her children qualify for some of them."
In an interview that aired Monday, Suleman told NBC "Today" show anchor Ann Curry that she does not receive welfare.
Her six other children are under the age of 7. All 14 children were the result of in-vitro fertilization.
Suleman was implanted with embryos at a Beverly Hills fertility clinic run by a well-known — and controversial — specialist who pioneered a method of implantation.
Dr. Michael Kamrava's name emerged Monday as a result of the interview aired Monday with Suleman, who gave birth to eight babies Jan. 26.
Over the past two weeks, the identity of Suleman's fertility doctor has been a source of great mystery because of questions over the ethics of implanting numerous embryos in a woman who already had six children.
Kamrava, 57, would not comment on the issue, but told reporters outside his clinic on Rodeo Drive that he had granted an interview to one of the television networks. When asked to provide more detail, he said, "Watch the news."
Without identifying the doctor, the Medical Board of California said last week it was looking into the Suleman case to see if there was a "violation of the standard of care." The medical board said Monday it has not taken any disciplinary action against Kamrava in the past.
In the NBC interview, Suleman did not identify her doctor by name, but said that she went to the West Coast IVF Clinic in Beverly Hills — of which Kamrava is director — and that all 14 of her children were conceived with help from the same doctor. In 2006, Los Angeles TV station KTLA ran a story on infertility that showed Kamrava treating Suleman and discussing embryo implantation.
Kamrava graduated from the University of Illinois and went to medical school at Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland, according to state records and his Web site.
Some fertility specialists said Kamrava is a controversial figure in the field.
"He's tried some novel techniques and some of those methods have been controversial," said Dr. John Jain, founder of Santa Monica Fertility Specialists.
Jain criticized the decision to implant so many embryos, saying: "I do think that this doctor really stepped outside the guidelines in a very extreme manner, and as such, put both the mother and children at extra high risk of disability and even death."
Dr. Jeffrey Steinberg, a professional acquaintance of Kamrava's, said Kamrava worked to develop an embryo transfer device that allows doctors to implant an embryo — or sometimes sperm with an unfertilized egg — directly into the uterine lining.
"Usually we inject the embryos into the uterus and they float around and attach themselves," Steinberg said. However, Steinberg said there was no evidence the method improved success rates for pregnancy.
It was not immediately known if the technique was used on Suleman.
Suleman said she had six embryos implanted for each of her pregnancies. The octuplets were a surprise result of her last set of six embryos, she said, explaining she had expected twins at most. Two of the embryos evidently divided in the womb.
Medical ethicists have criticized the implanting of so many embryos. National guidelines put the norm at two to three embryos for a woman of Suleman's age, except in extraordinary circumstances.
Kamrava's clinic performed 20 in vitro procedures on women under 35 in 2006, according to the most recent national report compiled by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Of those 20 procedures, four resulted in pregnancies and two in births. One woman delivered twins.
The average number of embryos he transferred per procedure for women under 35 was 3.5, the report said. Fertility doctors often implant more than one embryo to increase the chances that one will take hold.
An in-vitro procedure typically costs between $8,000 and $15,000. Asked on NBC how she was able to afford the treatments, Suleman said she had saved money and used some of the more than $165,000 in disability payments she received after being injured in a 1999 riot at a state mental hospital where she worked.
Dr. Richard Paulson, who heads the fertility program at the University of Southern California, cautioned against rushing to judgment about the fertility treatment in this case because questions remain about the quality of Suleman's eggs and whether there were any extraordinary circumstances that would lead Kamrava to transfer so many embryos.
As for the technique Kamrava pioneered, "those of us who are the scientists in the field do not feel this is a significant improvement," Paulson said. He said some doctors advertise that technique as "a way of making patients feel that they are trying something new."
Suleman, who is 33 and single, told NBC's "Today" show she was "fixated" on having children. Suleman said her doctor "did nothing wrong" and had warned her of possible complications to the pregnancy and risks to the development of the babies.
The octuplets were born nine weeks prematurely but appear relatively healthy. Their names have a Biblical theme: Noah, Jonah, Jeremiah, Josiah, Isaiah, Maliyah, Makai and Nariyah. All share the middle name Angel and the last name Solomon.
On Sunday, Suleman's mother, Angela Suleman, seemed to contradict her daughter's account, telling a Web site the fertility specialist who helped her daughter give birth to the octuplets was not the one who aided in the birth of her first six children.
In an interview with celebrity news Web site RadarOnline.com, Angela Suleman said she and Nadya's father pleaded with her first fertility doctor not to treat their daughter again. She said her daughter went to another doctor.
I knew this creep would be on welfare. In another article I read that she spent mega thousands on the fertility treatments. She paid for it from her workman's comp. So, instead of feeding her kids with that $165,000, she wants US to pay for it. Now, out of those new 8 kids, how many of them will need disability payments if already 3 of her kids are getting it? Why do I think the state should take these kids away from her? ALL of them! I would think that if she had that much money from her workman's comp, that that should have offset her welfare payments. ARGH! I am so pissed over this.
Renowned Death Hag
In this morning's Today show clip, she said she saved up money for multiple fertility treatments when she was working at the mental hospital--she said she worked double shifts. So what happened to the $165,000?
I have no idea why she thinks food stamps are not welfare, otherwise known as OTHER PEOPLE PAYING FOR HER AND HER CHILDREN TO EAT. Does she know that $490 is probably a week's worth of food for everyone, if that? And she gets that per month. When Ann asked what she was going to do about income, she said she had an "alternate source" and she was also going to use student loans to get by until she could afford otherwise. I tell you what--she better stop getting her damn fake nails filled.
She has no idea how ridiculous, irresponsible, and stupid she sounds. And, dammit, they showed those babies again and they just break my heart. I want them to go to people who desperately want babies and can afford to give them the lives they deserve.
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Senior Death Hag
What about healthcare for the kids? Is the nearly bankrupt state of California, footing the bill too? They have to get checkups and go to the dentist, don't they?
"Dying is just nature's way of saying, hey, you're not alive anymore!"
She is definately trying to morph herself into Angelina Jolie..it's just strange and those poor kids..and grandparents..I'm wondering where CPS is too..this woman is definately not in her right mind! and I'll get on a plane and whoop Oprah's butt if she gves this woman a dime! These kids don't need money they need a new mother!
Renowned Death Hag
They even did a split screen of the two of them, and they look eerily similar. Except that Angelina Jolie is absolutely gorgeous.
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So terrible to hear that those poor babies are being used as a meal ticket for such a lazy b*tch.
Some people just need a high five.... in the face.... with a chair...
Renowned Death Hag
[quote=Luanne;655780]They even did a split screen of the two of them, and they look eerily similar. Except that Angelina Jolie is absolutely gorgeous.[/quote
And she can actually afford all those kids.
Some people just need a high five.... in the face.... with a chair...
She has a publicist? I hope they tied her tubes or yanked out the clown car or whatever the hell. This bitch is nuttier than squirrel shit.
I wonder howmuch of that 165,000 she has spent on plastic surgery?
And I don't know if it has been mentioned already but her mother said she has paid NOTHING towards the raising of her previous 6 children. She has dumped all the responsibility onto this poor mother / grandmother.
Fucking who does she think she is anyway????? Oh...yeah .... Angie.
And for some reason I really LOL'd at the mention of her being injured during a riot at a Mental Facility.
Renowned Death Hag
I heard she was hit in the back of the head with a desk(?). That probably caused some brain damage.And for some reason I really LOL'd at the mention of her being injured during a riot at a Mental Facility.
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Oh wow .... yeah, that'd fuck you up for sure
I think any media outlet that focuses on this woman should be boycotted.
All this will do is encourage new dumb ass rabbits to have many children for
the purpose of fame and fortune.
NBC should be horse whipped for allowing this creep air time.
I am boycotting NBC. At least as my own personal protest.
I really feel bad for her mom and dad.
They are being put through the ringer.
Renowned Death Hag
Oh I fully agree. Her poor parents. These two should be enjoying retirement and shit like that. Her Poor dad has to go back to I think they said Iraq to work to send money back to support those kids. WTF man!!
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wonder who is paying this hospital bill? this multiple birth situation and the NICU bill would probably be close to a million dollars.
Supposedly the delivery alone was close to 1.3M
I can't imagine what her final bill will be ....
Those precious babies, i saw their picture. They deserve better than this.
She's using that 'only child' bullshit excuse - fuck that. I'm an only child, and I am not into mass breeding. She's plain out fucking nuts.
Renowned Death Hag
Crazy Baby Lady Is On Welfare
*Chuck E. Cheese picture removed by request*
Chuck E. Cheese might be smiling in that picture above with Crazy Baby Lady (pre-cooking oil injected lips), but he won't have a happy look on his face when he finds out that his tax-paying dollars are going into her pocket. He could use that money on more strippers! Damn her!
The L.A. Times reports that Nadya Suleman aka Octo-Mommy aka Single Jolie Female aka Crazy Baby Lady is currently getting $490 a month in food stamps. 3 of her first six kids are disabled, so she also gets federal public assistance for that as well. Her spokeswhore confirmed this mess.
Get your umbrellas out and slap a diaper over your face, because there's going to be a shit storm in 3...2...
During her interview with Ann Curry on Today, Crazy Baby Lady denied that she was a welfare mommy. Her spokeswhore said she doesn't think food stamps and public assistance counts as being on welfare. She went on to say, "They are part of programs designed to help people with need, and she does not see that as welfare." She doesn't SEE that as welfare, because all she sees is millions of babies dancing around in her eyes cooing, "Birth me, Angelina! Birth me, Angelina!"
And maybe her spokeswhore should tell her client to take some time out from torturing her uterus and maybe pay a visit to a dictionary or even Wikipedia to look up the word "welfare." Bitch is on welfare. And I was also unaware that there was a government program for nails in need of an elegant manicure.
Nadya's rep wouldn't tell the Times what disabilities her three kids have. Um. I think their disability is having a crazy bitch for a mommy.
In her interview with Ann, Crazy Baby Lady said she was going back to school to get her masters in counseling (crazy leading the crazy) so that she could take care of her child army. She also said, "I will do the best I possibly can. In my own way, in my own faith, I do believe wholeheartedly that God will provide in his own way."
And by "God" she means YOU.
http://www.dlisted.com/
I just freaking love this god will provide crap. God provides you as a human being with a brain. That's how he provides. Then YOU use that brain and provide for yourself.
Apparently God in this case is government assistance. You know... not welfare.
Students loans are just that - STUDENT LOANS...meant to pay for higher education.
Apparently we will be footing it as well.
She won't have a bill, it will end up getting paid by the rest of CA. Why else you think she's got that nuttier than squirrel shit just pulled one over on yall grin on her ugly face?Supposedly the delivery alone was close to 1.3M
I can't imagine what her final bill will be ....
Her octo ass IS on welfare. And she knows it.Crazy Baby Lady Is On Welfare
*Chuck E. Cheese picture removed by request*
Chuck E. Cheese might be smiling in that picture above with Crazy Baby Lady (pre-cooking oil injected lips), but he won't have a happy look on his face when he finds out that his tax-paying dollars are going into her pocket. He could use that money on more strippers! Damn her!
The L.A. Times reports that Nadya Suleman aka Octo-Mommy aka Single Jolie Female aka Crazy Baby Lady is currently getting $490 a month in food stamps. 3 of her first six kids are disabled, so she also gets federal public assistance for that as well. Her spokeswhore confirmed this mess.
Get your umbrellas out and slap a diaper over your face, because there's going to be a shit storm in 3...2...
During her interview with Ann Curry on Today, Crazy Baby Lady denied that she was a welfare mommy. Her spokeswhore said she doesn't think food stamps and public assistance counts as being on welfare. She went on to say, "They are part of programs designed to help people with need, and she does not see that as welfare." She doesn't SEE that as welfare, because all she sees is millions of babies dancing around in her eyes cooing, "Birth me, Angelina! Birth me, Angelina!"
And maybe her spokeswhore should tell her client to take some time out from torturing her uterus and maybe pay a visit to a dictionary or even Wikipedia to look up the word "welfare." Bitch is on welfare. And I was also unaware that there was a government program for nails in need of an elegant manicure.
Nadya's rep wouldn't tell the Times what disabilities her three kids have. Um. I think their disability is having a crazy bitch for a mommy.
In her interview with Ann, Crazy Baby Lady said she was going back to school to get her masters in counseling (crazy leading the crazy) so that she could take care of her child army. She also said, "I will do the best I possibly can. In my own way, in my own faith, I do believe wholeheartedly that God will provide in his own way."
And by "God" she means YOU.
http://www.dlisted.com/
Renowned Death Hag
That's one of the first things I thought of, too. She better not be getting "fills" from anyone unless they're free. Those nails aren't elegant either; they look like the ones some of the ladies on The Real Housewives of OC wear. Blehh.
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A-fucking-men!!
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