Lisa Kudrow was a good choice for Mrs. Holmes. After seeing some pics of the REAL Mrs. Holmes - she sort of looked like her.
Renowned Death Hag
Lisa Kudrow was a good choice for Mrs. Holmes. After seeing some pics of the REAL Mrs. Holmes - she sort of looked like her.
Death Hag
I think watching the movie with the commentary make it easier to follow.Originally Posted by Sam
I'm sure I found it more interesting than he did just because of this web site, so if it hadn't been for his complaining maybe I would have actually enjoyed it?
He's also one of those people who talks all through a movie asking, "Why is he doing that? Where is she going? Who are those people?"
I tell him, "Why don't you be quiet and we'll find out together?"
I watched the movie Wonderland last night.I now am connecting the dots.Their are alot of references to Boogie Nights in that movie too.I can't believe Sharon Holmes was buddy buddy with John's girlfriend.
2500 not in my life im moveing to a 1 bedroom 450 incl
She still is! She lives with her now! There's a pic here of Sharon on her 2/2007 post:
http://www.dawn-schiller.com/
Well we really don't know what is going on with Sharon and Dawn right now There hasn't been a post on Dawn's webpage since 1/08 and nothing more about Sharon.
I hope she is alive and well that's all I can say.
Renowned Death Hag
They were able to find blood at the Lizzie Borden house not too long ago, so you're right. If they used a luma light, they'd be able to pick up all sorts of blood and it would be chilling indeed!!!!
Too Chilling for me! I couldn't live there.
I just now remembered that the video of the Wonderland murders was on FAD (I can't see vids at work. Asses.) and man--I thought it was simply awesome work, Scott and FilmMaker. I love that kind of stuff. It was simply engrossing. Very, very well done, loved the inter-splicing of yesterday and today, then and now, murder scene and empty, quiet apartment.
I was all about to embed it on my MySpace, but then thought...nobody (except maybe Zombiegirl!) would have any idea what it was or WHY I had it on there.
I still might, though. It ROCKS. Why yes, I'm twisted...but you already knew that!
Thanks for the great vid and hard work. Double thumbs up here!
Love the pics of the house...it hasn't changed at all!
I was bored and went on the Dawn Shiller Site... She posted back in July that her Webmaster died of Cancer. She says that's why the site has been abandoned and that there are new people in charge that will be making changes.
Just wanted to let you all know.
Burgtwngrl
She died fairly recently...maybe a year or two ago. I saw it somewhere on the web.
Last year I watched the movie Wonderland and the dvd extras showed (to my surprise the crime scene video with bodys and all). But the thing that disturbed me and sent chills up my spine was............... A FAN, yes a blue fan that sat in a doorway. I had to rewind and pause on this fan to examine it and it looks exactly like a fan I had bought a few months before at a flea market. The switches were the same, the color that is a light or aquaish blue all the same but a little worse for ware. I only paid $2.00 for the fan. I asked the seller if it worked and he showed me that it did. To me who loves older things I saw the rusty white grills and my favorite shade of blue that was chipping in places, and looked like a half doller size black burn spot on the top as a good renovation project. I did repaint the white grills but not long after I got this fan my luck seemed to get real bad. My cat who was my pride and joy disappeared without a trace, my house went into foreclosure, the dog got cancer (he died this past spring). And the cat who was always all over anything new I would bring in the house seemed to walk far around it.
I try to tell myself it is just coincidence (and you all probably think I am crazy).
But is it possible I could own the fan that was in that house?
Does anyone by chance know where the furnishings of that house went?
Here are some details on the fan ( I tried to look it up and could not find a fan with the name that looked anything like it) It is a light blue or aqua blue square floor fan with three steel blades, white protective grills and white Handel on top, the name is Eskimo, two-speed model#20137. I got it at the GIBRALTAR TRADE CENTER, MT. Clenens MI
I am sure there tons like it. And it probably is not the Wonderland murder house fan yet it still gives me the creeps I wanted to just toss it out but a weird morbid side of me says hang on to it.
hmmmmmmm-- very interesting
So Susan Lanius Is now Dead? I didn't know that. Does anyone know where the victims were buried?
Just wondering
Renowned Death Hag
Cursed object. It would be really hard to trace something as simple as a fan. But now you got me thinking of things I bought at flea markets. Could all the bad and good be passed on from a object.
Does anyone know the status on the Wonderland house (Johnny Wadd) like who lives there, are there people that even live there???....I was reading the story (again) on Crimelibrary and was just wondering..
thanks all
why does this ring a bell,,, damn it...what was it about again?
We drove up there and parked (not get out) and it looked occupied. But it was a Saturday a couple of months ago and things change daily in L.A.
You know Johnny Holms the porn star accused for aiding in the the murders in the Wonderland house...very bloody sight!!!!!
OHHH ya damn I hate that when I forget, I must be getting to be an OLD DEATH HAG hahahah
i heard it was designed by robert byrd, a popular architect in LA at one time. Byrd also designed the house on ciello drive where the tate murders took place and the house where phil hartman was killed. he also did a really wierd, but cool house up laurel canyon that charles manson used to visit. i guess people should beware of byrd houses.
I collect masks. Bought one at an antique store in Denver--it was tooled leather, in the shape of a lion's face, and quite large and striking. Terrible things happened while I had that mask hanging in my house (for several years)--friends/relatives died, relationship ended, you name it. Everyone I knew hated that mask the instant they saw it. Finally when my partner told me it gave him the creeps and to please take it out of the house, I took it off the wall and checked out the back--scratched in the leather was the artist's name, and then, "HAITI." In the trash it went, things have been much better ever since. Voodoo?
Sorry, I'm o.t.
This whole street/area gives me the creeps.
There is a book called "The Other Hollywood: The Uncensored Oral History of the Porn Film Industry" which has three chapters regarding the Wonderland party scene and murders. It is quite interesting, since it is told in the words of the cops, quotes from Susan Launius and John Holmes. It also has some stuff from Sharon and Dawn too. I know you can pick it up on Amazon.
Not sure if this has been said but the crime scene vid is on the main site of findadeath.com
Some rap duo, called LMFAO (I think), live in the house now. It was on TMZ and the cameraman accompanied them to a party at the house and they were bragging about how it was the same house.
If you look at one of their videos on MySpace, you can tell it's the same house. Just creepy if you ask me.
Thanks for the tip, I will check out the myspace thing....their name really is LMFAO?
that is kind of creepy
Has anyone checked Dawn Shiller's Blog Recently? She finally has a publisher and a release date for her book... 2010! She has Black Hair now. No news about Sharon Holmes. I hope she's still with us.
Wanted to bump up the thread since Tomorrow is the anniversary of the Eddie Nash Robbery and the 1st is the Anniversary of the Wonderland murders.
Oh wow. Thanks for the heads up burgtwngrl. I'm facinated by this case.
Porn is great...
That is strange, I wonder why. I assumed there's books about this case. I've always been fascinated about this, one of my favourite murder cases ever.
Today's the Anniversary I think it's been 28 years ago today that the wonderland murders took place. I've always been fascinated by this case.
Renowned Death Hag
I saw the movie last night. Wanted to bump
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"I will be buried in a spring loaded casket filled with confetti, and a future archaeologist will have one awesome day at work."
wow. what people do to one another.
her book comes out August 10 , 2010
Found some crime scene pics:
The living room where the first victim, Barbara Richardson was found
http://www.franksreelreviews.com/ima...ombldwalls.jpg
Richarson's body was found on the living room floor in front of the sofa.
http://www.franksreelreviews.com/ima...chardsonlr.jpg
http://www.franksreelreviews.com/ima...hardsonlrb.jpg
Victim two, Ron Launius was bludgeoned to death on his bed.
http://www.franksreelreviews.com/ima...nd/victim2.jpg
Location of the so-called 5th victim, Susan Launius was found at the foot of her husband's bed. She would survive her wounds.
http://www.franksreelreviews.com/ima.../5thvictim.jpg
Victim three, Audrey Miller was beaten to death on her bed.
http://www.franksreelreviews.com/ima...ct3-3rdflr.jpg
The fourth victim, Billy DeVerell as he died on the floor of the 3rd floor bedroom. There were blood stains behind the television set, which was still running and tuned to channel 3.
http://www.franksreelreviews.com/ima...ct4-3rdflr.jpg
Senior Death Hag
I live in NYC, but L.A. is one crazy place. I just finished reading the story about the Wonderland Murders. California is one wild place to live, its got New York beat for sure...think about all the killings that have taken place in L.A. over the years...The Mason Family...ect, ect
How long had these folks been dead?
Is that crazy jerk Eddie Nash still alive. ? These A --- Holes live forever . I can't understand it.
Renowned Death Hag
Umm I believe they were killed in the early morning hours (2 or 3 a.m.) and were found later that day.
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"I will be buried in a spring loaded casket filled with confetti, and a future archaeologist will have one awesome day at work."
I have watched Scott's video a few times of him going through the place where the murders happened. Erie. Has Scott talked about what it really felt like to be there? I couldn't imagine...
I heard they found John Holmes' weener prints at the crime scene....on the floor and the ceiling....nyuk (just one nyuk)
Guest
That's "Wiener", not "Weener"!
I've recently finished both Dawn's book and John Holmes: A Life Measured in Inches by Jennifer Sugar & Jill Nelson. Both are great reads. The second is packed full of info (581 pages) about John's life, drug use, the murders, etc. I didn't see that this book was mentioned, so just throwing it out there for those of you still looking for an interesting book on it.
Also, I looked on Dawn's website and she has posted on the comments under the 2/07 picture of Sharon that she was sorry to report that Sharon's health was almost completely gone and that she was now her legal representative. I don't have the page open now, but I believe she posted it on 8/10 or around then.
I've followed this board for years now, joined a couple of years ago, and just decided to start posting. I felt it was time to join in on the discussions, so a big hello to everyone!
Editing to add the post about Sharon:
http://www.dawn-schiller.com/2007/02...here/#comments
August 8, 2010:
"Thank you. I’m humbled. I am Sharon’s legal guardian as she is no longer able to manage her affairs. Her illness is incurable and I just make sure she is comfortable now. Sorry to tell you.
Dawn"
Hopefully adding the link and quote aren't against forum rules. I suppose I should read those before I start bombarding the board with posts, huh?
Last edited by amyruba; 09-05-2010 at 03:50 PM. Reason: Adding Link and Quote
Bought and read Dawn's book and have Dawn on my facebook as a friend now as well.
I thought that the book was good, but those who are looking for hot info on Holmes or Wonderland will be disappointed.
Dawn has made it her life goal now to work on "throwaway teens" as she considers herself to have been.
She lives in the Pacific NW and has a yougn daughter (I think about 12 years old) names Jade.
Sharon is indeed slipping away and no longer has a memory from what I've read.
Indeed, Nash still survives. In his 80's, I think about 82 now. Still living in the LA area.
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