Jim took advantage of anyone in any way he could. He was a con-man's con-man, an adulterer, rapist, pathological liar, master manipulator, thief, blackmailer, the ultimate narcissist, a drug...
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Jim took advantage of anyone in any way he could. He was a con-man's con-man, an adulterer, rapist, pathological liar, master manipulator, thief, blackmailer, the ultimate narcissist, a drug...
That's pretty gross. I haven't heard/read that interview yet, but I'll get there. I gave my presentation a few weeks ago, and I concluded it by telling the students that I would be spending the...
I agree with you. Several survivors have said that the conditions in Jonestown toward the end were so bad, (i.e. sleep deprivation, poor nutrition, physical exhaustion) that many people felt death...
I saw another interview with this guy (can't remember where, but I think it was online) where he said he really thought the child would be better off there where there was supposedly no racism, but...
That's what makes me saddest about it. These people were true believers in socialism, which was certainly their right, and they were making it work beautifully in Jonestown, until Jim Jones the...
I have a question for anyone who knows about this stuff--on the autopsy reports found at http://jonestown.sdsu.edu/ it is noted that both Jim Jones and Maria Katsaris had a pink coloring on their...
Seago, that is a fantastic link, thank you!
I often think Jim Jones must have had a miniscule penis.
I think they shot the dogs rather than poisoning them, but still, yeah. That's pretty sick. I have a hard time comprehending the parents giving it to their babies, too. With all the lies Jones was...
I can't see it, where is what looks like a horse? I remember they killed some dogs and the chimp, but I don't remember ever reading about a horse.
Oooh, thank you! I think I have it recorded, but I'm not sure. Hopefully it'll be on again later tonight.
LOL Hopefully he has a better personality!
All right, Seagorath, you get to come to my house and clean up the vomit!
He'd have turned me off as soon as he opened his mouth and started telling me how great he was. The man had an ego the size of Texas + Alaska. Not attractive to me. Ugh.
I think the first counts were always estimates. When they estimated such a low number at first, they drew the logical conclusion that most of the rest must have escaped into the jungle. As they...
That is terrific, baroque1! Thanks so much for pointing us to this one.
As long as there are people, there will be vulnerable people, and there will be people who will exploit those vulnerabilities.
I haven't read it, but I have the new edition pre-ordered at Amazon. It's supposed to be really good. Seductive Poison is riveting.
http://www.youtube.com/user/mrblakemr
This is a link to a...
I read one of the victims had a letter on her person telling Jones that it was ok that he got all the nutritious foods while they basically lived on rice, because his nutritional needs were so much...
Dang it, now I gotta go listen to it again. I have listened to it four or five times, but I never caught the Mr. Muggs reference. But yes, if you're interested in the Jonestown thing, 'Father...
If I'm looking at the same photo you're talking about, you can't really see the face of the woman in the flowered dress. The person most prominent in the picture, right?
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I haven't heard that before. Don't know if it's true or not, but it could be. There is relatively little known about Marceline, I suppose because everyone else lived in the shadows of Jim's...
Politicians will back pretty much anyone who is willing to give them support. Jones commanded a very large congregation in California, therefore he was politically powerful. I might be...
I think that would be an excellent idea. I would love to visit Auschwitz. I don't think it's possible to really imagine the magnitude of these things until you stand in the places where they...
Yep. Those kids on that tape weren't just screaming because they were scared, although I'm sure there was plenty of that, too. And that nurse, telling them, "They're not crying because they're in...
I suspect that's the case, although I haven't seen any writeup that really knows. They say he either shot himself or someone shot him. His wound was consistent with a suicide wound from a...
Yes, all the time "Father" was standing up there telling them there was no pain involved, that it was just "stepping quietly over to the other side," while the people were having convulsions. So he...
There was an elderly woman named Hyacinth Thrash who hid under her bunk and survived. She died in 1995. I found her really impressive, as well as Christine Miller, who at least tried to talk some...
I know! The whole time he's yelling at them, I'm yelling back, "You first, asshole!"
I know I've seen it, I'm pretty sure it's on youtube.
And thanks for the article, Alan!
From what I can tell, you nailed it right there. He started out with enormous arrogance and ego, which grew as it was fed. The man needed to be adored. Plus, for the last few years of his life he...
I watched that again last night, and I was asking my very practical-minded, engineer-type husband what could make it happen that way. He said he thought it was probably superstition, and that the...
Oooh, thank you! I heard that existed, but hadn't located it. There is such a wealth of information on this topic that I almost feel like I'm drowning. I really want to have this presentation done...
Ooh, yes, I love this video! Sadly, when they are showing the piano, I swear all I see is plants.
Wow, Aries, that is so interesting! Keep working on your buddy about those pictures. ;) I tried looking at Jonestown on google earth, and it's so disappointing, you can't really see anything but...
Quoting myself in this older thread so you don't have to read back up the posts to know what I'm talking about. I found a short series at YouTube that is video of a group who went to Jonestown 25...
Thanks! The most amazing thing happened earlier this evening. I kept thinking, "Surely I have a JJ book on this true crime shelf somewhere..." And lo and behold, I did, and it was this book! I...
I'm doing a major presentation on this story for a class this fall, so I'm trying to collect as much info as I can right now. I was in high school when it happened, but I had just turned 18, and it...