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  1. Good find Astronaut. You're right, these two...

    Good find Astronaut. You're right, these two photos from this documentary don't look like any photos included on the Google Drive. The earlier photo appears to capture the terrible moment when fire...
  2. I've reserved this in my local library, and I...

    I've reserved this in my local library, and I look forward to reading it, but with a critical eye.





    We got name checked! That's nice, and it's clear the author used our forum as a resource.
  3. I wanted to add that I always thought JR's...

    I wanted to add that I always thought JR's comment "that's not good" was part of his schtick. He had been known for making little sarcastic asides, like near the beginning of their 1991 song Call It...
  4. Welcome Mark and other newbies. We've only been...

    Welcome Mark and other newbies. We've only been analyzing the short bit of the Pickett tape audio that has come to light for less than a year. So more details will likely be fleshed out. But I...
  5. I thought they were a Police clone back then, and...

    I thought they were a Police clone back then, and dismissed them. But I think their music aged well, and is respected today. Remember the Bounce commercial a few years ago, that parodied "Your...
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    Most likely an accident, though due to neglect. ...

    Most likely an accident, though due to neglect. Apparently 2750 tons of ammonium nitrate had been stored at the port of Beirut for years, and officials had been concerned that it should be moved and...
  7. Great post pcwhiz! We'll eventually get your...

    Great post pcwhiz! We'll eventually get your transcript on the Google Drive as the alternate version, to go along with the original audio version.

    I really like your insight about Ron Barak, the...
  8. When my hard drive returned in the mail from...

    When my hard drive returned in the mail from Rhode Island 6 years ago, I checked for two things first: Matthew Pickett's audio and the Butler video. I was disappointed, but not surprised, to find...
  9. I've found this particular point very...

    I've found this particular point very frustrating. The original Butler video was available on DVD for a while, then not anymore. Wouldn't that mean that it's now in the public domain? I just wish...
  10. No problem bustakita. I wanted to be sure I...

    No problem bustakita. I wanted to be sure I didn't miss anything either.

    I got curious so I went back and found when the preshow music ID was made. It was on page 6 of the current thread, in Dec...
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    Nice full decade bump to this thread! This...

    Nice full decade bump to this thread!

    This event in Chicago is the reason there was a cameraman at the Station Nightclub on 2/20/2003 who captured the tragic fire on video. He was there to get...
  12. The preshow music was IDed a couple of years ago...

    The preshow music was IDed a couple of years ago in this forum. They were playing the CD Blown by the band Deeds over the sound system. It was released in 2002, so it was new at the time. Here is...
  13. As we know, Irina Gershelis makes an appearance...

    As we know, Irina Gershelis makes an appearance in the Butler preshow video as "the shot girl". She doesn't speak, but I remembered that she called in to a radio show which is included in the videos...
  14. Thanks Irishman, but this isn't new to us. ...

    Thanks Irishman, but this isn't new to us. Although it is the full 20 minute video, it is pretty low quality. I appreciate the effort though! We need to keep looking for the original hi-res version...
  15. Hell yes we're interested! Please post the link....

    Hell yes we're interested! Please post the link. Or if it's not online, pm me and we can figure out how to get it posted. Thanks!
  16. RodentLady found it on YouTube back in December. ...

    RodentLady found it on YouTube back in December. It's in a YouTube posting of a John Barylick presentation. In it, he plays the first 2 minutes of the Butler video synced to the Matthew Pickett...
  17. Yes Bill, I agree that the transcript needs to be...

    Yes Bill, I agree that the transcript needs to be updated on the Google Drive. I'm working on something else for the Drive too, I'll keep you all posted.

    However now that we have the excellent...
  18. I agree with you CWC. That makes sense with the...

    I agree with you CWC. That makes sense with the context of the situation. That's just what someone would say, pointing ahead toward the front door and saying "just like we got in."
  19. Like most of you, I've been preoccupied lately by...

    Like most of you, I've been preoccupied lately by the surreal world we are now living in. Just now joining the latest discussion, I also congratulate subarctican on the great YouTube find! It shows...
  20. Yes I play drums as a hobby, and I was very...

    Yes I play drums as a hobby, and I was very impressed with Dale Latulipee's drumming! He made it look effortless and fun to play. And it's hard to record a good drum sound outside a professional...
  21. I think you're right subarctican. However I have...

    I think you're right subarctican. However I have heard rumors that some fire departments have a copy as well, for training purposes. It may be that all of them are the degraded version with the...
  22. Billoween: Amazing story from David Brennan. We...

    Billoween: Amazing story from David Brennan. We need to start collecting these and add them to the Google Drive as survivor statements, or something like that.

    I am happy and honored to know that...
  23. Nice find subarctican! The screen grabs are from...

    Nice find subarctican! The screen grabs are from a (new?) trailer for The Guest List, more professional than the earlier one that I seem to remember seeing. At least I don't remember seeing this...
  24. Life is short and can end in the blink of an eye,...

    Life is short and can end in the blink of an eye, treasure it. I wonder how many will be at the memorial at 11:07 tonight. Wishing them all peace and thinking of those we lost 17 years ago.
  25. Yes it could have been another woman, but as for...

    Yes it could have been another woman, but as for Charlene are you thinking of someone else Frank? Charlene Prudhomme was pulled from the front door by her husband Al. He was reaching in pulling...
  26. Welcome back subarctican, and welcome Carpenter...

    Welcome back subarctican, and welcome Carpenter and helenff! Carpenter, your stories about Becky Shaw are invaluable. They help us really understand who she was, and give a human dimension to this...
  27. Do you mean this post of yours Bill? ​If so,...

    Do you mean this post of yours Bill?

    ​If so, this video is already on the Google Drive. I'm not sure what you mean about it coming from the RIAG. I got it from a video torrent site a few years...
  28. That was weird, I had to change the color of your...

    That was weird, I had to change the color of your text to read it Frank.

    I'm still here. Life is busy for me, but I'm loving all the activity lately. Frank, your work is much appreciated. Bill,...
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    This thread is going to have renewed interest,...

    This thread is going to have renewed interest, I'm sure. Netflix recently released a 3 part documentary about Luka Magnotta and the internet sleuths who helped track him down. The show is called...
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    Very sad day. I'm an engineer by day, but a...

    Very sad day. I'm an engineer by day, but a musician at heart. Neil was my drumming inspiration, and though I had private lessons and training in percussion in school band, I learned a lot about...
  31. Do I sense a little sarcasm Bill? Lol! Yes it's...

    Do I sense a little sarcasm Bill? Lol! Yes it's hard to keep all the facts straight about this event even for the most obsessed of us! Plus this thread went mostly dormant for at least a year, so...
  32. Great first post subarctican! I have several...

    Great first post subarctican! I have several comments which I've isolated from your post:




    Yes indeed! I'm making many new conclusions based on hearing the Pickett audio, as well as some of...
  33. In my opinion this is the biggest news in this...

    In my opinion this is the biggest news in this Station Nightclub Fire thread since the hard drive was received 5 years ago! RodentLady has made a huge find here!!

    She contacted me about this...
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    I live in Oklahoma and I consider myself an...

    I live in Oklahoma and I consider myself an amateur storm chaser. Like many storm enthusiasts I was devastated to hear of the death of several chasers from the 5/31/2013 El Reno tornado. They were...
  35. Video shows officer shooting fleeing Fresno teen

    ... in the back of the head. The 16-year-old minor died later at the hospital. After being handcuffed first. What gets me is the boy had jumped a metal bar fence and was running away, clearly not a...
  36. Welcome back Bill! Gotta do my taxes soon too..

    Welcome back Bill! Gotta do my taxes soon too..
  37. Thinking of the fallen and their loved ones on...

    Thinking of the fallen and their loved ones on tonight's 16th anniversary. We still remember.
  38. Thanks for the update RL! I can't decide whether...

    Thanks for the update RL! I can't decide whether a feature film or miniseries would be a better way to tell this story and get it out to the public. Probably a miniseries, since it would allow...
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    Nancy Grace has spoken! She makes some memorable...

    Nancy Grace has spoken! She makes some memorable comments in this recent 20/20 episode on the case:
    https://abc.go.com/shows/2020/episode-guide/2018-12/07-120718-the-devil-in-disguise
  40. So the release date of October 1 for The Guest...

    So the release date of October 1 for The Guest List shown on IMDB has come and gone. To their credit, the official movie website never showed a date and still shows a pending status for dates of the...
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    Watched the 20/20 episode.. very interesting to...

    Watched the 20/20 episode.. very interesting to hear the girl's recounting of events. And congrats to pkstacy, Bettie and Upset, you were correct about a possible destination of Mexico! Turns out...
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    See this story here -...

    See this story here - https://www.snopes.com/news/2015/11/22/donald-trump-cheering-911/
    There weren't cheering Muslims in NJ on 9/11, they were a small group of Israeli youths who per the story were...
  43. There is a nice website now for the upcoming film...

    There is a nice website now for the upcoming film The Guest List: https://www.theguestlistfilm.com/

    I am a bit confused by the press details on the site. It is promoted to be a documentary film,...
  44. Billoween was correct! I'm glad the Google Drive...

    Billoween was correct! I'm glad the Google Drive is still a good resource for interested folks.

    Also thanks to Billoween for carrying the torch, pardon the pun, of this thread lately. I'm sure...
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    So very sorry to hear this. Another tragedy for...

    So very sorry to hear this. Another tragedy for the Abbott family. I'm sure Vinnie never got over seeing his brother murdered onstage in 2004.

    As a fellow drummer and metal fan, I hold sticks...
  46. Thanks CWC67 for your suggestion of things to add...

    Thanks CWC67 for your suggestion of things to add to the Google Drive. The only YouTube videos I've added are the victim impact statements and news stories directly about the Station Fire. I...
  47. Great find Billoween! Here is the link to the...

    Great find Billoween! Here is the link to the YouTube video that Tim Cormier comments on:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxVd3ZnvayY
  48. It's been a while since I posted. First...

    It's been a while since I posted. First excellent work Frank on the positive ID on Bruce Cormier as the guy who says "Timmy, just.. c'mere!" in the Butler video. Great to put a face with the name,...
  49. First, good post Bill, I reread Walter Castle's...

    First, good post Bill, I reread Walter Castle's witness statements. He did have quite an experience for the short time he was inside. From his description, he was surely the last survivor to make...
  50. Cool Frank, good work! I've been having trouble...

    Cool Frank, good work! I've been having trouble posting images lately too. How did you get yours to post?
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