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    Jeffrey Epstein, Accused Sex Trafficker

    By hanging, in his second attempt.

    Not suspicious at all, it's not like he had info that would be dangerous to dozens of powerful men. Oh wait...

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/jeffrey-ep...ry?id=64881684
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    He should have converted to Islam and done it in the name of Allah.
    What with the virgins, and all that.

    So apparently, being on "suicide watch" in a NY jail includes having the means to hang yourself and sufficient time alone or unmonitored - or at least unimpeded - to actually do so. I wonder if they provide a rope and a step ladder too.

    Edit: What you want to bet that his suicide watch did not include video surveillance; or if it did, the cameras were on the fritz or the footage accidentally got overwritten?

    Edit again: I just watched some drone footage on Youtube that somebody took of the structures on "Pedo Island". A lot of people were commenting about child sacrifices, murders, and what not. One person said in effect that it was going to be a shame when this guy kills himself with three bullets to the back of the head, LOL.

    There's no doubt that the guy had info about a lot of prominent people that those people would do most anything to keep private; but I think he killed himself because he knew what evidence was coming out; and he didn't want to spend the rest of his life in prison.
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    Dead men tell no tales...here's his death pic. jeff.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aries65 View Post
    Dead men tell no tales...here's his death pic. jeff.jpg
    Great find!

    Yeah - he couldn't lie or buy his way out of this one.
    But maybe he should have just waited and banked on a Presidential pardon or something.
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    Hmm, did he do it himself or did he have "help"? I'll go with the latter.
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    Ms Maxwell might want to start exercising some extra caution about now; I'm just saying.
    She's at that age where her head might suddenly fall off or she might get hurt in a robbery gone bad, that sort of thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mansfield67 View Post
    Hmm, did he do it himself or did he have "help"? I'll go with the latter.
    He has been on suicide watch since the end of July? Hmmmm.....I agree he could have had a little help with that task.

    Good pic Aries65.

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    Not too surprised he got smoked. He knew too much stuff on too many people. People with POWER.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leasie View Post
    He has been on suicide watch since the end of July? Hmmmm.....I agree he could have had a little help with that task.

    Good pic Aries65.
    Absolutely. I think he was silenced, that whole "underground world" keeps it's secrets and players. Too many powerful people involved, I wonder who ordered the hit ?
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    Trump has apparently "retweeted" conspiracy theory stuff claiming that Bill Clinton is responsible.
    Trump, who commented that Epstein was a great guy who liked beautiful women - on the young side, Trump, who paid for sex with a porn star and bragged about getting away with groping women; is helping to perpetuate stories that Clinton was responsible.

    This is probably Trump at his most Presidential; it will only go downhill from here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimC View Post
    Trump has apparently "retweeted" conspiracy theory stuff claiming that Bill Clinton is responsible.
    Trump, who commented that Epstein was a great guy who liked beautiful women - on the young side, Trump, who paid for sex with a porn star and bragged about getting away with groping women; is helping to perpetuate stories that Clinton was responsible.

    This is probably Trump at his most Presidential; it will only go downhill from here.
    WTF ! I was just reading his tweets and this from the President Of The United States ? Pathetic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leasie View Post
    He has been on suicide watch since the end of July? Hmmmm.....I agree he could have had a little help with that task.

    Good pic Aries65.
    According to TMZ, he was taken off sometime between Jul 23 and his death as he seemed 'fine.

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    Former MCC inmate: There’s ‘no way’ Jeffrey Epstein killed himself

    https://nypost.com/2019/08/10/former...illed-himself/

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    Pathologist and Fox News Contributor Michael Baden Hired by Jeffrey Epstein’s Team to Observe Autopsy

    https://www.thewrap.com/pathologist-...serve-autopsy/

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    How many "causes of death" can there be when one hangs oneself in a jail cell?
    I mean, it's not like he tied a rope around his neck and jumped off a 50 foot high cliff or something.
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    They are likely making sure his death wasn't made to look like hanging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cindyt View Post
    They are likely making sure his death wasn't made to look like hanging.
    Good point.
    He might have killed himself some other way and then staged the hanging to throw people off the trail.

    You know, the fact that they did an autopsy and then said his cause of death was "pending further information"; instead of saying "asphyxiation by hanging" or something similar is a bit suspicious. I suppose you could also die from lack of blood to the brain rather than asphyxiation if the noose constricts the circulation.
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    She is like the only smart person to seek the
    truth about the whole thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theotherlondon View Post
    She is like the only smart person to seek the
    truth about the whole thing.
    That's not quite true:
    Trump is doubling down on his "Bill Clinton did it" allegation, which means that pretty much all of his supporters now believe it, and we all know that so many people can't be wrong, because even if if they were wrong initially, the weight of so many opinions will alter the facts to align with the opinions, right?

    After doubling down, Trump is either really, really sure; or he's just full of shit, right?

    Oh wait, you said, "Smart".
    And, "Truth".

    Never mind, sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cash View Post
    Pathologist and Fox News Contributor Michael Baden Hired by Jeffrey Epstein’s Team to Observe Autopsy


    https://www.thewrap.com/pathologist-...serve-autopsy/
    Seems to me that there should have been someone there to observe sent by the representatives of the women who have accused him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by john*thomas View Post
    Seems to me that there should have been someone there to observe sent by the representatives of the women who have accused him.
    I so agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cash View Post
    Pathologist and Fox News Contributor Michael Baden Hired by Jeffrey Epstein’s Team to Observe Autopsy

    https://www.thewrap.com/pathologist-...serve-autopsy/
    I used to like Baden in the days of his Autopsy series on HBO, but then he turned all famewhore during the Casey Anthony trial.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimC View Post
    That's not quite true:
    Trump is doubling down on his "Bill Clinton did it" allegation, which means that pretty much all of his supporters now believe it, and we all know that so many people can't be wrong, because even if if they were wrong initially, the weight of so many opinions will alter the facts to align with the opinions, right?

    After doubling down, Trump is either really, really sure; or he's just full of shit, right?

    Oh wait, you said, "Smart".
    And, "Truth".

    Never mind, sorry.
    So true, Donald Trump is full of shit.
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    And now what do we think of the Bill painting? I feel it was probably a sick joke between bros but my god, it‚??s been so long since it was even topical. Like jeeze man, take it down. Or maybe he kept people where he wanted them by keeping shit like that up, to remind them of his power over them? https://www.thecut.com/2019/08/jeffr...yan-kleid.html

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    Autopsy found several broken bones in the neck, possible in hanging, much more likely in strangulation.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime...cid=spartanntp

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...?noredirect=on
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    And of course, there have been "reports" that screaming and shrieking were heard coming from his cell the morning he died:

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jeffrey...tional-center/
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    It’s been almost 3 years you guys! I’ve missed you all! Jeffrey Epstein got me back in the deathag way of life! So he did another good deed other than dying as far as I’m concerned!

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    Hello, lulubaines! Welcome back. You should reread the FAQa page to familiarize yourself about the rules. In this case, Rule 6 stipulates keeping the forum tidy, which includes not posting consecutive comments less than 30 minutes apart. So, would you please combine posts 31 and 32? If you don't know how, feel free to ask me or pktracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soaring_butterfly View Post
    And now what do we think of the Bill painting? I feel it was probably a sick joke between bros but my god, it’s been so long since it was even topical. Like jeeze man, take it down. Or maybe he kept people where he wanted them by keeping shit like that up, to remind them of his power over them? https://www.thecut.com/2019/08/jeffr...yan-kleid.html
    I so think he also had a painting of fat slob Donald Trump in black face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lulubaines View Post
    It’s been almost 3 years you guys! I’ve missed you all! Jeffrey Epstein got me back in the deathag way of life! So he did another good deed other than dying as far as I’m concerned!
    Welcome back lulu!

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    Welcome back Lulu, seems the reports are saying it was suicide and having worked for a medical examiner myself, broken bones are common with hanging people think you strangle to death, nope it's from a broken neck when you hang if the hanging is done correctly, if not then you strangle to death. I just feel that he paid someone not to come around for a bit and then offed himself so he wouldn't have to face going to prison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimC View Post
    And of course, there have been "reports" that screaming and shrieking were heard coming from his cell the morning he died:

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jeffrey...tional-center/
    True, the sad thing is I bet there are other rich men
    ready to take his place.(because they think they can
    get away with it)
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    One of the best memes, "Whether suicide or murder, Jeffery Epstein died at the hands of a wealthy pedophile."
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    Still think Donald Trump had him killed in Prison
    because Trump is a low life, racist person who knows
    no bottom.

    Talk about a wealthy pedophile that reads like Donald Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theotherlondon View Post
    Still think Donald Trump had him killed in Prison
    because Trump is a low life, racist person who knows
    no bottom.

    Talk about a wealthy pedophile that reads like Donald Trump.
    I would say this was a group effort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mansfield67 View Post
    I would say this was a group effort.
    True enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theotherlondon View Post
    Still think Donald Trump had him killed in Prison
    because Trump is a low life, racist person who knows
    no bottom.

    Talk about a wealthy pedophile that reads like Donald Trump.
    I think we can all assume you do not love Donald Trump! So who did you vote for in the 2016 election? I won't put forth any of my ideas as I don't know you that well.

    Regarding Epstein- I think we all have wild imaginations and like to see conspiracies all over the place. I have been trying to teach myself to hear horses and not zebras, so I say he just saw what was ahead of him and killed himself rather than face it.
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    Follower you are on the verge of being hostile to another member, It doesn't matter who that person voted for you are free to voice your ideas as long as they do not disrupt the thread and hostile to other forum members. I think Epstein killed himself perhaps paid the guards not to come around for a bit until he killed himself.
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    Government hit. Period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PooBah McGee View Post
    Government hit. Period.
    Was a time when I would have thought that, too. I'm still somewhat of a fan of CTC AM. If you are not familiar with it, it's essentially alternative/conspiracy radio that runs overnight. Their bread and butter is things like the Epstein business. But sometimes imagination can cross over into delusion. I'm trying to train myself not to be so much like that. I appreciate all the possibilities but one can take it too far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PooBah McGee View Post
    Government hit. Period.
    So true, Donald Trump had a hand in killing him.
    Just to shut him up.
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    https://www.tmz.com/2020/01/06/jeffr...stions-raised/

    Photos of a very dead Epstein and his jailcell
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    I don't buy it was a government hit, I feel that he knew he was going away to prison and about to lose everything and he is one of those that would not do well in prison, and he paid the guards to not come by his cell for a while and he offed himself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pkstracy View Post
    I don't buy it was a government hit, I feel that he knew he was going away to prison and about to lose everything and he is one of those that would not do well in prison, and he paid the guards to not come by his cell for a while and he offed himself.
    It does seem a bit far fetched, but then again... I do think it was murder made to look like a suicide. I read Ronan Farrow's book Catch & Kill and that was pretty intense reading. The lengths people will go to protect such predators. People in the media, law enforcement and probably government to some extent. I think what shocked me was how they could turn a blind eye to all of this, no morals or conscience. I guess if the pay off is big you'll do anything. I personally would say no, once your in they own you. Scary, because these people are dangerous.
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    JMO, who cares? All I keep thinking is* Bye bye POS rubbish~ You donít deserve justice- Just HELL. But then again...JMO

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    Let's say he was murdered and it was made to look like suicide. Who did it?

    You might say if he was part of a group of wealthy elites, maybe they would protect him? Maybe they would feel some kinship and would want to save him from whomever wanted to murder him for all of his crimes. In that case who makes up the other group? Possibly family members and friends of his alleged victims. But they would be ordinary people, right? Could they make that hit happen?

    The other possibility (I think we've all heard this) is that he was prepared to smear all his "friends" and business associates possibly to cooperate with authorities and maybe get a lesser sentence, or maybe out of sheer hatefulness, so his "friends" had strong motivation to kill him.

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