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    Holiday Or Christmas?

    What are your general thoughts about how Christmas time has been watered down to "Holidays"?
    Personally, I'm tired of it. I'm tired how people might be insulted to actually hear the awful word Christmas so the answer is to eliminate "Christmas" and say Holiday instead so no one is offended.
    This is a classic example of political correctness run amok.
    I don't lump Christmas and New Years and Hanukkah all together. I wish each day individually, not lumped in as one big fraudulent "Happy Holidays!"

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    I say "Happy Holidays" now just out of respect for those that don't celebrate Christmas. If I'm not sure than I go with "Happy Holidays" . For people I know who celebrate Christmas I say "Merry Christmas". It really doesn't bother me. The world we live in today is a global and diverse place.

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    I think Happy Holidays is ok, I think I prefer Seasons Greetings though as I think it encompasses Christmas better. With somethiing like this I always think how would I feel if someone wished me Happy Hanukkah or Happy Diwalhi etc, and I would think it was nice of them. So I think it should just be taken in the way its intended.

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    I concur.

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    I guess it bugs me how in order to not offend certain people, they go and offend many others.
    I think my main focus is on commercials and television/radio.
    Advertising to me seems to be the center on the weakening of Christmas and promotion to a secular greeting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tugboat25 View Post
    I guess it bugs me how in order to not offend certain people, they go and offend many others.
    I think my main focus is on commercials and television/radio.
    Advertising to me seems to be the center on the weakening of Christmas and promotion to a secular greeting.

    That does drive me crazy. The meaning of the Holidays (whichever one is being observed) is reduced to a commercial money making event.

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    Christmas, and I wouldn't be offended if someone wished me Happy Hanukkah, I would then know that they did not believe as I do, but that we are allowed to have difference in faith, as well as opinions.
    Agreed...its gotten waaay out of hand with commercialism. Especially when they put Christmas stuff out in the stores...with Halloween!!

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    I say Christmas and I am never offened but what people call it.

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    Christmas is for kids - JMO.

    I remember when I was a kid, the stores and every where didn't put out their Xmas stuff until the day after Thanksgiving.

    Now it's up in the stores by the summer - ridiculous!

    I usually say "have a happy holiday!" so not to offend the Jewish or those who celebrate the African-American Xmas (sorry, forget the name!)

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    Very often though, Christmas and Hanukkah fall on separate dates. Very often they are even separate weeks. I just don't know why they still get bound together as Happy Holidays (not to mention New Years is a about a week later).
    From what I understand, most Jewish people don't care if they hear or see anything about Christmas. They're generally cool with it.
    The amount of people who would be offended seems so small that it doesn't justify the elimination of Christmas in pop culture/advertising and entertainment.
    No matter who you are, if you look to be offended about something, you will surely never be disappointed. Something will come around.

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    We never say ''Happy Holidays'' here. It's always ''Happy/Merry Christmas''.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magblax View Post
    I say "Happy Holidays" now just out of respect for those that don't celebrate Christmas. If I'm not sure than I go with "Happy Holidays" . For people I know who celebrate Christmas I say "Merry Christmas". It really doesn't bother me. The world we live in today is a global and diverse place.


    Screw those people, it's Friggin Christmas!!!


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    That's the Christmas spirit Gardner!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardner32 View Post
    Screw those people, it's Friggin Christmas!!!

    Damn Right. And Happy Kwanza too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardner32 View Post
    Screw those people, it's Friggin Christmas!!!
    LoL, That's pretty much my boyfriend's sentiments.
    We were talking about this not long ago and I said something like "well it's just to be on the safe side..you don't want to say Merry Christmas to someone who doesn't celebrate it." His response was "I don't give a shit. that's what I celebrate so I'm going to tell everyone else Merry Christmas."

    I guess it has gotten rather commercial. On the whole I want to say Merry Christmas, but I end up subconsciously wishing others a happy holiday since I don't want to "offend" anyone.
    “If you enter this world knowing you are loved and you leave this world knowing the same, then everything that happens in between can be dealt with.” - Michael Jackson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardner32 View Post
    Screw those people, it's Friggin Christmas!!!

    I quite agree. December 25 is celebrated as CHRISTMAS day and whomever doesn't like it can lump it. This country was founded on freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion. If someone doesn't believe, so be it, but they shouldn't get bent out of shape if someone wishes them well in whatever form it takes.

    I say a heartfelt Merry Christmas early to all of you good people here on the board!
    When I die I'm going to be watching and if anyone yells "REPENT" I'm gonna wallop him hard.

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    I'm definately a Merry Christmas kinda girl myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cettie View Post
    I quite agree. December 25 is celebrated as CHRISTMAS day and whomever doesn't like it can lump it. This country was founded on freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion. If someone doesn't believe, so be it, but they shouldn't get bent out of shape if someone wishes them well in whatever form it takes.

    I say a heartfelt Merry Christmas early to all of you good people here on the board!
    Thank you thats the first one I have had this year. Merry Christmas to you and a Happy New Year! (Bit early I know but we haven't got any more celebrations till Christmas now)

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    Just had a thought, how many hags will be sneaking off for a crafty fifteen minutes on the forum on Christmas day? lol

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    Personally I say Merry Christmas everyday...it's my dog's name!!!! I say Happy Holidays or Merry Christmas whichever comes outta my mouth.....if people get their panties in a knot over it .... so be it! There are waaay bigger things to worry about and I don't give a hairy rats ass about the twits who get pissed over a greeting!! BTW Bah Humbug LOL

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    ^ lol, well said.
    “If you enter this world knowing you are loved and you leave this world knowing the same, then everything that happens in between can be dealt with.” - Michael Jackson

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    It's Merry Christmas, that's all.

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    Merry Christmas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardner32 View Post
    Screw those people, it's Friggin Christmas!!!
    [SIZE=7]MERRY CHRISTMAS!!![/SIZE]
    [SIZE=5]Dammit.[/SIZE]

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    One of my previous bosses was Jewish, I would wish him a Merry Christmas and he would wish me a Happy Hanukkah. The end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SueWahoo View Post
    One of my previous bosses was Jewish, I would wish him a Merry Christmas and he would wish me a Happy Hanukkah. The end.
    Yep. That's pretty much it here too. People should call it whatever they want as long as they're not purposely trying to shit on someone else's idea of what the holiday is to them. To me, it's Christmas.
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    Yepper, Merry Christmas,

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    I do the holidays until Thanksgiving passes, Then it MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathyf View Post
    I say Christmas and I am never offened but what people call it.
    I agree. Taking away the word Christmas to me is taking away the meaning of Christ-mas which is Christ.
    And I'm not all that religious either.
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    as a federal employee, i would love it if other religious holidays were also observed... like hannukkah, kwaanza, etc... i am for all the days off i can get!!!
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    i gear my greetings towards folks based on their religion... my fave is...

    have yourself a merry little christmas....

    i'm an atheist, but i am respectful of the religions of others...
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    I wish everyone a Blessed Yule and watch the eyebrows raise as they wonder WTF I mean. lol Let's face facts.....xmas is only celebrated when it is because the early church hijacked the pagan holiday (that celebrated the rebirth of the sun king) and tried to make it their own. They couldn't make the early coverts (who were mostly forced to convert anyway) stop celebrating Yule so they conviently moved the birthdate of Jesus to around the same timeframe and made it xmas.

    This explains it quite well....from the site: http://www.tylwythteg.com/Yule.html

    As everyone has heard I am sure, Christmas has always been more Pagan than Christian, with it's associations of Celtic fertility rites and Roman Mithraism. That is why both Martin Luther and John Calvin abhorred it, why the Puritans refused to acknowledge it, much less celebrate it (to them, no day of the year could be more holy than the Sabbath), and why it was even made ILLEGAL in Boston! The holiday was already too closely associated with the birth of older Pagan gods and heroes. And many of them (like Oedipus, Theseus, Hercules, Perseus, Jason, Dionysus, Apollo, Mithra, Horus and even Arthur) possessed a narrative of birth, death, and resurrection that was uncomfortably close to that of Jesus. And to make matters worse, many of them pre-dated the Christian Savior.

    Ultimately, of course, the holiday is rooted deeply in the cycle of the year. It is the Winter Solstice that is being celebrated, seed-time of the year, the longest night and shortest day. It is the birthday of the new Sun King, the Son of God -- by whatever name you choose to call him. On this darkest of nights, the Goddess becomes the Great Mother and once again gives birth. And it makes perfect poetic sense that on the longest night of the winter, 'the dark night of our souls', there springs the new spark of hope, the Sacred Fire, the Light of the World, the Coel Coeth.

    That is why Pagans have as much right to claim this holiday as Christians. Perhaps even more so, as the Christians were rather late in laying claim to it, and tried more than once to reject it. There had been a tradition in the West that Mary bore the child Jesus on the twenty-fifth day, but no one could seem to decide on the month. Finally, in 320 C.E., the Catholic Fathers in Rome decided to make it December, in an effort to co-opt the Mithraic celebration of the Romans and the Yule celebrations of the Celts and Saxons.

    There was never much pretense that the date they finally chose was historically accurate. Shepherds just don't 'tend their flocks by night' in the high pastures in the dead of winter! But if one wishes to use the New Testament as historical evidence, this reference may point to sometime in the spring as the time of Jesus' birth. This is because the lambing season occurs in the spring and that is the only time when shepherds are likely to 'watch their flocks by night' -- to make sure the lambing goes well. Knowing this, the Eastern half of the Church continued to reject December 25, preferring a 'movable date' fixed by their astrologers according to the moon.

    Thus, despite its shaky start (for over three centuries, no one knew when Jesus was supposed to have been born!), December 25 finally began to catch on. By 529, it was a civic holiday, and all work or public business (except that of cooks, bakers, or any that contributed to the delight of the holiday) was prohibited by the Emperor Justinian. In 563, the Council of Braga forbade fasting on Christmas Day, and four years later the Council of Tours proclaimed the twelve days from December 25 to Epiphany as a sacred, festive season. This last point is perhaps the hardest to impress upon the modern reader, who is lucky to get a single day off work. Christmas, in the Middle Ages, was not a SINGLE day, but rather a period of TWELVE days, from December 25 to January 6. The Twelve Days of Christmas, in fact. It is certainly lamentable that the modern world has abandoned this approach, along with the popular Twelfth Night celebrations.

    Of course, the Christian version of the holiday spread to many countries no faster than Christianity itself, which means that 'Christmas' wasn't celebrated in Ireland until the late fifth century; in England, Switzerland, and Austria until the seventh; in Germany until the eighth; and in the Slavic lands until the ninth and tenth. Not that these countries lacked their own mid-winter celebrations of Yuletide. Long before the world had heard of Jesus, Pagans had been observing the season by bringing in the Yule log, wishing on it, and lighting it from the remains of last year's log. Riddles were posed and answered, magic and rituals were practiced, wild boars were sacrificed and consumed along with large quantities of liquor, corn dollies were carried from house to house while caroling, fertility rites were practiced (girls standing under a sprig of mistletoe were subject to a bit more than a kiss), and divinations were cast for the coming Spring. Many of these Pagan customs, in an appropriately watered-down form, have entered the mainstream of Christian celebration, though most celebrants do not realize (or do not mention it, if they do) their origins.

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    I never understood how/why Merry Christmas became Happy Holidays over the pond until last year - and I was horrified. WTF is going on these days that we have to pussyfoot round all the do-gooders at the expense of something we enjoy?

    I would refuse point blank to use the (dammed stupid) Happy Holidays as surely if someone you know doesn't celebrate Christmas then you wouldn't wish them a merry one anyway???

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    Happy holidays. That covers it from Thanksgiving til Jan 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by susalu View Post
    as a federal employee, i would love it if other religious holidays were also observed... like hannukkah, kwaanza, etc... i am for all the days off i can get!!!
    I say Christmas because I celebrate Christmas. If I know someone celebrates Hannukah or any other variation..I extend the appropriate greeting..It's sad that with everything going on in the world people can still find things like that to get upset about!
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    it's Christmas. I don't see why people have to be so PC about it. it was Christmas for hundreds of years. why change it now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Death Hag Chris View Post
    it's Christmas. I don't see why people have to be so PC about it. it was Christmas for hundreds of years. why change it now?
    totally agreed!
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    I want all of you to marry me.

    I belong to a board that discusses etiquette- and this because a highly debated topic every year- because they look at it from "is it polite to wish a Jewish person a Merry Christmas etc". Bleh.

    Its Christmas. If you don't like it, I won't get you a present.

    Christmas Christmas. So there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DietCokeofEvil View Post
    I want all of you to marry me.

    I belong to a board that discusses etiquette- and this because a highly debated topic every year- because they look at it from "is it polite to wish a Jewish person a Merry Christmas etc". Bleh.

    Its Christmas. If you don't like it, I won't get you a present.

    Christmas Christmas. So there.
    HAHAHA!!!! i'm gonna use that line, "If you don't like it, I won't get you a present" next time I wish someone a Merry Christmas.

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    I always find myself saying " Have a Good Holiday" but it pisses me off all this you have to be politically correct shit.So I have made uo my mind this year it is MERRY EFFING CHRISTMAS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNpuck View Post
    That's the Christmas spirit Gardner!

    Thank you!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by susalu View Post
    as a federal employee, i would love it if other religious holidays were also observed... like hannukkah, kwaanza, etc... i am for all the days off i can get!!!

    Yep.....me too! Hubby complains that we get too many days off!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardner32 View Post
    Yep.....me too! Hubby complains that we get too many days off!
    if we celebrated every holiday for every religion in the US, the government would shut down!! love it!
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    Merry Death Hag Christmas!

    It's fo' the shorties.

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    Airblown up Christmas Decorations

    Yes the Blow up Christmas decorations not blow up dolls!!

    Anyway I a sure you have all seen these, they range from like 6 to 8 feet high when inflated! I bought a snow globe one and a Santa coming out of the Chimney one and they are fairly easy to set up!

    I was able to set up both and have working in under an hour!

    I don't do Christmas lights its to cold and such a pain in the ass to set up!

    The inflatables are a bit expensive but they are worth it! Been awhile since I saw something that said "easy set up" and it was!!

    So this is my "Consumer Report" on them! LOL
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    You know, I wish we decorated the outside of our houses for christmas like some of you guys over there, but then, it probably wouldn't feel so special when I see a house over here thats taken the effort to do it well. My parents still put fairy lights on the trees on our front garden, and now the neighbours have started to copy, I hope it turns into some angry competition between the people on our street to see who can decorate the outside of the house the best. I wanna make my own Santas Grotto.

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    I've never gotten any of those... but thought about it... Thanks for the info... its a good thing to know! Makes my decision whether to get one or not easier!
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    I thought this thread was about blowing up(with explosives) Christams Decotations, not Blow-Up(with air) Christmas Decorations. My bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondin View Post
    I thought this thread was about blowing up(with explosives) Christams Decotations, not Blow-Up(with air) Christmas Decorations. My bad.
    I guess the title is kind of decieving!! LOL

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    We are going to decorate even better than we did for Holloween
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