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    Alexis Arquette

    http://radaronline.com/exclusives/20...alexisarquette

    I kept thinking it was a hoax. CNN reporting it now.

    Sorry for the double post, the first is doing that weird link thing.

    I wonder what cause of death was. She was only 47, and apparently was in a coma for 4 days.

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/11/entert...bit/index.html
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    aw wow. didnt know he was sick. RIP

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    Aw so sad to hear this!

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    RIP Alexis. Her singing was my favorite part of the Wedding Singer movie.
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    Very sad, a talented performer she was. When he was still a man he did a very funny film called I Think I Do, great comedic performance. RIP Alexis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by atomicbettie View Post
    I kept thinking it was a hoax. CNN reporting it now.

    Sorry for the double post, the first is doing that weird link thing.

    I wonder what cause of death was. She was only 47, and apparently was in a coma for 4 days.

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/11/entert...bit/index.html
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    RIP Alexis. You fought the hard fight and won. You can sleep peacefully now.
    Wanna see my grandkids?

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    Wow, this one has really flew under the radar. This is the first I've heard of this.

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    Thanks Cyn.

    I didn't know she (then he) was the little boy in the Tubes "She's a Beauty" video!


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    My daughter knew more about Alexis than I did. I was more familiar of the siblings, Sad news all the same.
    I did like how Alexis siblings said they were all there when Alexis made the "transition"...instead of "passed".

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    what did he die from??? It doesn't say at least from what I can see
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiffany View Post
    what did he die from??? It doesn't say at least from what I can see
    They haven't said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiffany View Post
    what did he die from??? It doesn't say at least from what I can see
    I don't whether it's true or not but a friend who last saw him a month ago said he was now back to living as a male which would explain the passing announcement being worded as it was. A few people have said he has Aids as well as an inoperable tumour and he also developed an infection which spread to his liver. The link below also has the last public photo of him.

    http://radaronline.com/celebrity-new...s-final-photo/

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    I read about his passing yesterday, and you're right, shell. He had gone back to living as a male. No idea of his cause of death yet, but I'm glad he wasn't afraid to share who he was, regardless of his gender. RIP brave soul.
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    Yeah - they're reporting aids.

    They need to find a cure for that already
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    Well, I can report that living like a woman is definitely more involved than living like a man and when I don't feel good, I've been known to put my hair in a pony, put on sweat pants and not wear make up, so maybe we all "live as a man," when we're sick. I feel bad that she didn't reach out to her fans in her last days and months so we could let her know she made an impact in our lives but I know that she has a supportive family and friends and I have no doubt that she felt loved in her last days. RIP Alexis.
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    sad but your gonna live that lifestyle, gotta take everything from it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiffany View Post
    sad but your gonna live that lifestyle, gotta take everything from it...
    I'm sorry, what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by McCourt View Post
    I'm sorry, what?
    Seriously.
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    Not sure if it's been posted but here is the full press release about Alexis' passing from Patricia's facebook page.

    https://www.facebook.com/richmond.ar...54498777830879

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    I'm hearing she died from complications from aids.

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    Such a shame, he was a really handsome man, and a very beautiful women, another one gone far to soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiffany View Post
    sad but your gonna live that lifestyle, gotta take everything from it...
    What I would take away from that statement is, if you wish to have unprotected anal sex with a succession of anonymous partners during your adult life, that is a potentially life-endangering risk you have accepted. Even if that is not how (s)he lived & died, if you're an addict who shares needles with other junkies there is a very real possibility you might test HIV-positive one day because of that habit. I read a few years ago in Rolling Stone about a demi-monde of the gay community called "bug chasers", who are actually serial practitioners of the first activity I mentioned and know the risks, but they get a "rush" from courting death when doing it. Go figure.

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    And we're assuming this just because he was gay or trans?

    I don't know, something about that statement rubbed me the wrong way. People of all walks of life get AIDS. I've had blood transfusions in the last year and I've had to sign away the risk of AIDS even in this age. And we don't even know when he got AIDS. Some people got it before it was well known. There's no reason to judge. I understand you play you might have to pay, but I don't have the words to explain why this is offensive. So unless he was a bug chaser, we don't know what the circumstances were and he could have had it since before people knew to take precautions.


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    Quote Originally Posted by atomicbettie View Post
    And we're assuming this just because he was gay or trans?

    I don't know, something about that statement rubbed me the wrong way. People of all walks of life get AIDS. I've had blood transfusions in the last year and I've had to sign away the risk of AIDS even in this age. And we don't even know when he got AIDS. Some people got it before it was well known. There's no reason to judge. I understand you play you might have to pay, but I don't have the words to explain why this is offensive. So unless he was a bug chaser, we don't know what the circumstances were and he could have had it since before people knew to take precautions.

    Well said. I was trying to find a nice way to say something like this but couldn't.



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    EXCLUSIVE: Former lover of Alexis Arquette sells a SEX TAPE featuring the transgender rights activist to a porn company for $25,000 just a day after her death - but the website destroyed it to prevent it 'smearing her memory'

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    Quote Originally Posted by McCourt View Post
    Well said. I was trying to find a nice way to say something like this but couldn't.



    HOLY FUCK PEOPLE!!! READ THIS! WHAT A BASTARD:

    EXCLUSIVE: Former lover of Alexis Arquette sells a SEX TAPE featuring the transgender rights activist to a porn company for $25,000 just a day after her death - but the website destroyed it to prevent it 'smearing her memory'

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    His memory. You can't change your chromosomes. He was mentally ill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gottaqhfilly View Post
    His memory. You can't change your chromosomes. He was mentally ill.
    Blaming bad behavior on mental illness might be convenient but I'm not buying it.
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    So Charley Weaver was her uncle....from Hollywood Squares I think?

    I remember her in the Wedding Singer. RIP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leasie View Post
    So Charley Weaver was her uncle....from Hollywood Squares I think?

    I remember her in the Wedding Singer. RIP.
    Wasn't her dad theguy who was on the Waltons? JD..pickett or something? Or am I confusing it with someone else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by McCourt View Post
    Well said. I was trying to find a nice way to say something like this but couldn't.



    HOLY FUCK PEOPLE!!! READ THIS! WHAT A BASTARD:

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    Quote Originally Posted by McCourt View Post
    Well said. I was trying to find a nice way to say something like this but couldn't.



    HOLY FUCK PEOPLE!!! READ THIS! WHAT A BASTARD:

    EXCLUSIVE: Former lover of Alexis Arquette sells a SEX TAPE featuring the transgender rights activist to a porn company for $25,000 just a day after her death - but the website destroyed it to prevent it 'smearing her memory'

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz4KBNYAqAT
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    Good on that company.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDude View Post
    Good on that company.
    I totally agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McCourt View Post
    Blaming bad behavior on mental illness might be convenient but I'm not buying it.
    I was trying not to get in trouble. He was a sexual deviant, can we agree on that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gottaqhfilly View Post
    I was trying not to get in trouble. He was a sexual deviant, can we agree on that?

    NO!
    But I guess you are entitled to your opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gottaqhfilly View Post
    I was trying not to get in trouble. He was a sexual deviant, can we agree on that?
    I don't think so.
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    This may be a little OT but it's something I've been thinking about lately while out walking and such.

    I'm not going to get off too deeply into it, just raise the question because I wonder what some of you might think and what insight you might be able to share.

    How can a person of one gender think that they would be happier or more comfortable\satisfied, etc as the other gender? I'll go with a guy because I am one. A guy might think that he's unhappy as a guy. That unhappiness could stem from that or it could stem from something else(s) that he cannot identify. Being a guy, I don't think that you can really have a concept or empathy of what it really means to be a woman. You can have a perception of what you might think it's like to be a woman, but only a self created perception. It would be sort of like a white guy feeling that he would be happier as a black guy - he can't have any real concept of what it actually means or feels to be of a race other than his own; just a perception of such formed by observation, conversation, etc.

    So I guess the way that it's trying to gel in my mind is this:

    You can know with certainty that you are unhappy or dissatisfied in life.
    You might believe that you can identify the primary cause of that, but you can't truly know without changing\removing that cause.
    You can suspect that something like changing race or gender (neither of which can truly be done) might alleviate that cause.
    You can't have any degree of certainty that such a change might help because you have no concept of what being "someone else" really means, only an idea of what you think it means.

    That's about as far as I've gotten with it so far - the real question in my mind is how can you think you might be better off being something that you have not ever been and thus cannot fully understand?

    I'm probably reading too much philosophy here lately; sorry for the long post.

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    Sexual deviant ? I don't think so. When I think of sexual deviant I think of Bill Cosby.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimC View Post
    This may be a little OT but it's something I've been thinking about lately while out walking and such.

    I'm not going to get off too deeply into it, just raise the question because I wonder what some of you might think and what insight you might be able to share.

    How can a person of one gender think that they would be happier or more comfortable\satisfied, etc as the other gender? I'll go with a guy because I am one. A guy might think that he's unhappy as a guy. That unhappiness could stem from that or it could stem from something else(s) that he cannot identify. Being a guy, I don't think that you can really have a concept or empathy of what it really means to be a woman. You can have a perception of what you might think it's like to be a woman, but only a self created perception. It would be sort of like a white guy feeling that he would be happier as a black guy - he can't have any real concept of what it actually means or feels to be of a race other than his own; just a perception of such formed by observation, conversation, etc.

    So I guess the way that it's trying to gel in my mind is this:

    You can know with certainty that you are unhappy or dissatisfied in life.
    You might believe that you can identify the primary cause of that, but you can't truly know without changing\removing that cause.
    You can suspect that something like changing race or gender (neither of which can truly be done) might alleviate that cause.
    You can't have any degree of certainty that such a change might help because you have no concept of what being "someone else" really means, only an idea of what you think it means.

    That's about as far as I've gotten with it so far - the real question in my mind is how can you think you might be better off being something that you have not ever been and thus cannot fully understand?

    I'm probably reading too much philosophy here lately; sorry for the long post.

    Maybe since the human default is female since in utero we are women until our change into male. If we are born as a male but the chemical makeup in our brain and body are set to the female chemical makeup it alters everything about us from our moods to our state of mind, to even what we think about.

    Being born a certain race and wanting to be a different race is different because there is really only social science behind that, it might be because you grew up with members of that race or come from a place where that race is predominate. You can only identify from experiences with that race and they might identify you as one of their own.

    If my early morning ramblings make any sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDude View Post
    Maybe since the human default is female since in utero we are women until our change into male. If we are born as a male but the chemical makeup in our brain and body are set to the female chemical makeup it alters everything about us from our moods to our state of mind, to even what we think about.

    Being born a certain race and wanting to be a different race is different because there is really only social science behind that, it might be because you grew up with members of that race or come from a place where that race is predominate. You can only identify from experiences with that race and they might identify you as one of their own.

    If my early morning ramblings make any sense.
    Makes a lot of sense, thanks.

    I've read several things lately about debates among different schools of science concerning whether or not there are really multiple races or just one human race with some different physical characteristics that evolved due to localized or tribal environmental\social pressures.

    It just seems to me that in order for someone to arrive at a logical conclusion that they might be better off had they been born differently; that they would have to believe that they know what it would mean and what it would be like to have been born that way. During the course of that logical consideration; it seems like one would have to recognize that they only have a perception, not certain knowledge; of what having been born that way might entail.

    I'm glad that I'm comfortable in the skin that I was born with; otherwise I would apparently overthink the hell out of the possibilities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDude View Post
    Maybe since the human default is female since in utero we are women until our change into male. If we are born as a male but the chemical makeup in our brain and body are set to the female chemical makeup it alters everything about us from our moods to our state of mind, to even what we think about.

    Being born a certain race and wanting to be a different race is different because there is really only social science behind that, it might be because you grew up with members of that race or come from a place where that race is predominate. You can only identify from experiences with that race and they might identify you as one of their own.

    If my early morning ramblings make any sense.
    Good point Dude, Your post makes perfect sense to me.
    However, Because I believe in reincarnation, (are there any threads on this subject?)-- I feel we have all been here before.. I just wonder if it "may" have something to do with a past life? Who knows? Just something to ponder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gottaqhfilly View Post
    His memory. You can't change your chromosomes. He was mentally ill.
    Sorry but just because he was gay doesn't make him mentally ill, I have mental illnesses and I am not gay, so not sure where you're coming from with that statement and it's her death, She choose to be a woman, not a man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McCourt View Post
    Well, I can report that living like a woman is definitely more involved than living like a man and when I don't feel good, I've been known to put my hair in a pony, put on sweat pants and not wear make up, so maybe we all "live as a man," when we're sick. I feel bad that she didn't reach out to her fans in her last days and months so we could let her know she made an impact in our lives but I know that she has a supportive family and friends and I have no doubt that she felt loved in her last days. RIP Alexis.
    I was thinking the same thing. I didn't think of her so much "detransitioning" but just that she was sick and not wanting to dress up. Not only that I believe she was gender fluid.

    Quote Originally Posted by gottaqhfilly View Post
    His memory. You can't change your chromosomes. He was mentally ill.
    NOPE. Being transgender is no longer in the DSM-5 as a mental illness. It was taken out years ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by JimC View Post
    This may be a little OT but it's something I've been thinking about lately while out walking and such.

    I'm not going to get off too deeply into it, just raise the question because I wonder what some of you might think and what insight you might be able to share.

    How can a person of one gender think that they would be happier or more comfortable\satisfied, etc as the other gender? I'll go with a guy because I am one. A guy might think that he's unhappy as a guy. That unhappiness could stem from that or it could stem from something else(s) that he cannot identify. Being a guy, I don't think that you can really have a concept or empathy of what it really means to be a woman. You can have a perception of what you might think it's like to be a woman, but only a self created perception. It would be sort of like a white guy feeling that he would be happier as a black guy - he can't have any real concept of what it actually means or feels to be of a race other than his own; just a perception of such formed by observation, conversation, etc.

    So I guess the way that it's trying to gel in my mind is this:

    You can know with certainty that you are unhappy or dissatisfied in life.
    You might believe that you can identify the primary cause of that, but you can't truly know without changing\removing that cause.
    You can suspect that something like changing race or gender (neither of which can truly be done) might alleviate that cause.
    You can't have any degree of certainty that such a change might help because you have no concept of what being "someone else" really means, only an idea of what you think it means.

    That's about as far as I've gotten with it so far - the real question in my mind is how can you think you might be better off being something that you have not ever been and thus cannot fully understand?

    I'm probably reading too much philosophy here lately; sorry for the long post.
    You are completely off. No offense but being transgender is nothing like that. I have people very very close to me that are transgender. It's more like this: You're a man. You've always felt like a man. To you, you are a man. Now imagine when you look in the mirror, you see a woman's body. Who you are in your head is who you are. Your body is a shell. Doesn't matter what genitalia you have. Your gender is all in your head. Biological sex is different. That has to do with chromosomes. Our brain doesn't always agree. Basically it's a misalignment between your body and your mind and it's also a misalignment between the way you view yourself and the way other people see you (hence the mirror analogy). Out of all the transgender people I've known, not one of them just "decided one day that he was a woman"......this is something they've known about themselves since they were old enough to remember. Being told "you can't do that, that's for girls, you're a boy". What constitutes a man and what constitutes a woman are entirely social constructs. It's hell to know you are a woman but because you have a penis the world tells you, you are a man and you have to be manly and do manly things. You have to pretend to be who other people want you to be.
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    Interesting insights - thanks for sharing. I don't think anyone "just decides one day" to be the other gender. I was thinking that perhaps there is a process of consideration whereby one tries to change or "set right" what they feel might be wrong in their lives; with one of those major things being their gender identity.

    Maybe it's something more like a matter of considering whether or not to try to live life according to the way you feel that you were born instead of according to your physical gender.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimC View Post
    This may be a little OT but it's something I've been thinking about lately while out walking and such.

    I'm not going to get off too deeply into it, just raise the question because I wonder what some of you might think and what insight you might be able to share.

    How can a person of one gender think that they would be happier or more comfortable\satisfied, etc as the other gender? I'll go with a guy because I am one. A guy might think that he's unhappy as a guy. That unhappiness could stem from that or it could stem from something else(s) that he cannot identify. Being a guy, I don't think that you can really have a concept or empathy of what it really means to be a woman. You can have a perception of what you might think it's like to be a woman, but only a self created perception. It would be sort of like a white guy feeling that he would be happier as a black guy - he can't have any real concept of what it actually means or feels to be of a race other than his own; just a perception of such formed by observation, conversation, etc.

    So I guess the way that it's trying to gel in my mind is this:

    You can know with certainty that you are unhappy or dissatisfied in life.
    You might believe that you can identify the primary cause of that, but you can't truly know without changing\removing that cause.
    You can suspect that something like changing race or gender (neither of which can truly be done) might alleviate that cause.
    You can't have any degree of certainty that such a change might help because you have no concept of what being "someone else" really means, only an idea of what you think it means.

    That's about as far as I've gotten with it so far - the real question in my mind is how can you think you might be better off being something that you have not ever been and thus cannot fully understand?

    I'm probably reading too much philosophy here lately; sorry for the long post.
    Live and let live......I don't have to understand everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimC View Post
    Interesting insights - thanks for sharing. I don't think anyone "just decides one day" to be the other gender. I was thinking that perhaps there is a process of consideration whereby one tries to change or "set right" what they feel might be wrong in their lives; with one of those major things being their gender identity.

    Maybe it's something more like a matter of considering whether or not to try to live life according to the way you feel that you were born instead of according to your physical gender.
    There you go. I'm so glad that my gender identity matches the biological sex I was born as (which is called cisgender) because it has to be hell to not be comfortable in your own skin like that. The suicide rate for transgender people is something like 41%.

    "Live and let live......I don't have to understand everything." John*Thomas....that works too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Domino View Post
    There you go. I'm so glad that my gender identity matches the biological sex I was born as (which is called cisgender) because it has to be hell to not be comfortable in your own skin like that. The suicide rate for transgender people is something like 41%.

    "Live and let live......I don't have to understand everything." John*Thomas....that works too.
    I'm not surprised the suicide rate is that high because for many that actually make the full transistion, there are still those who refuse to see the person as anything but the sex they were born as and think it's alright to throw their opinion in people's faces. It's 2016 yet people still find it okay to harm someone over something that they have absolutely no control over and their excuse is always 'they ain't right' conveniently forgetting the fact that somewhere in their brain, something said it was okay to harm someone just because they didn't line up to what they thought was normal.

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    Beautifully said, shellc !
    Today you could be standing next to someone who is trying their best not to fall apart. So whatever you do today, do it with kindness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shellc View Post
    I'm not surprised the suicide rate is that high because for many that actually make the full transistion, there are still those who refuse to see the person as anything but the sex they were born as and think it's alright to throw their opinion in people's faces. It's 2016 yet people still find it okay to harm someone over something that they have absolutely no control over and their excuse is always 'they ain't right' conveniently forgetting the fact that somewhere in their brain, something said it was okay to harm someone just because they didn't line up to what they thought was normal.
    I think the fact of the matter is that there is no "normal," and the sooner each of us get that the better for all of us. Everyone has something "odd" about them or something "not mainstream." The fact that someone here actually tried to get us to agree that someone was mentally ill or is a deviant, is the real problem. The only people I can judge are those who've I've actually had sex with and I've never had sex with anyone famous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shellc View Post
    I'm not surprised the suicide rate is that high because for many that actually make the full transistion, there are still those who refuse to see the person as anything but the sex they were born as and think it's alright to throw their opinion in people's faces. It's 2016 yet people still find it okay to harm someone over something that they have absolutely no control over and their excuse is always 'they ain't right' conveniently forgetting the fact that somewhere in their brain, something said it was okay to harm someone just because they didn't line up to what they thought was normal.
    Very well said.

    Quote Originally Posted by McCourt View Post
    I think the fact of the matter is that there is no "normal," and the sooner each of us get that the better for all of us. Everyone has something "odd" about them or something "not mainstream." The fact that someone here actually tried to get us to agree that someone was mentally ill or is a deviant, is the real problem. The only people I can judge are those who've I've actually had sex with and I've never had sex with anyone famous.
    McCourt, I love you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Domino View Post
    Very well said.



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