reports are mass casualties with 10 dead , but not yet confirmed.
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reports are mass casualties with 10 dead , but not yet confirmed.
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10 are now confirmed dead via CNN. More than 20 others injured. Shooter in custody
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Here is the link since it wasn't posted yet.
http://news.yahoo.com/shooting-umpqu...182211198.html
now it's 13
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/deadly-sh...college-oregon
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Fox news now saying 13 dead and so is the gunman.
http://video.foxnews.com/v/361913217...#sp=show-clips
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Unbelievable.
To my Father. Even though you have crossed the plane, you will always be with me.
You were not just my Father, but my hero. My life has been a poor attempt to be like you
You taught me music, vocals, and how to fight. I can only hope I am half the man you are
When I close my eyes I can see you. And finally, Thank you Dad. for everything.
March 1934-July 2016
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Shooter was 20 years old and a student at the college.
http://abcnews.go.com/
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20 years old! Rumor has it that he posted his plan on a website and was given some very creative advice from some other crazy people. I'm sure the police will be knocking on their doors now.
The reason a dog has so many friends is because he wags his tail instead of his tongue.
Wash, Rinse, Repeat.
Word on the street is he's a Christian nutbag named Chris Harper Mercer that wanted to kill atheists. He looks half white/half black.... but more white... I dunno. Not that it matters. Just sayin you can't tell by looking at him what race he is. Not sure on the motive either. Just a rumor.
See what I mean?
Sitting ducks.
http://seattle.cbslocal.com/2015/10/...lege-shooting/The community college is a gun-free campus.
“Possession, use, or threatened use of firearms (including but not limited to BB guns, air guns, water pistols, and paint guns) ammunition, explosives, dangerous chemicals, or any other objects as weapons on college property, except as expressly authorized by law or college regulations, is prohibited,” the college’s security policy states.
Joe Olson, former president of the college, told The Associated Press the school has only one security officer on duty at a time, and that person isn’t armed.
jeez ... this place is never boring (for long) ... i must admit as much as i admire the right to protect yourself ... America has got too many guns and not enough bombs
Last edited by human; 10-01-2015 at 09:16 PM.
Is that why when people identified themselves as Christians he shot them in the head and the ones that didn't were shot in the legs or not shot at all?Originally Posted by StewartGilliganGriffin
Word on the street is he's a Christian nutbag named Chris Harper Mercer that wanted to kill atheists. He looks half white/half black.... but more white... I dunno. Not that it matters. Just sayin you can't tell by looking at him what race he is. Not sure on the motive either. Just a rumor.
See what I mean?
must of wanted to take responsibility for god creating all those atheists ... poor idiot probably just needed a good talking to ... killing for god has got to be one of the most unholy actions a person could ever take imo ... if he was a religious nut that is ... but even if it isn't America encourages that kind of dangerous jihad like stupidity, like when Bush called the war in the middle east the next crusade ... i dunno ... maybe a neurologist would be a good president
Last edited by human; 10-01-2015 at 11:20 PM.
I get the neurologist joke. Carson and all. And let's all pray not. That would be dangerous indeed. I think a proctologist is in order.
no i'm serious ... i think the biggest threat to humanity is its own stupidity and he could maybe he could enlighten America with his knowledge of the mind/brain and use the presidency as platform to try move the country away from the superstitious mentality Bush manage to exploit ... honestly that was the thing that scared me the most about 911 ... i couldn't believe he used religion as a weapon
Between 2004-2013
U.S. Deaths by terrorism - 313
U.S. Deaths by gun violence - 316,000
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This makes me a little nervous as I go to Community College but I know realistically there is no reason to worry.
I was much more worried when I worked at the casino, as there were no metal detectors or searches or anything, plus people getting extremely pissed off every day. I can't believe we never had anyone bring in a gun. I was more worried about revenge suicide in the middle of the main casino area, rather than a mass shooting, but I'm still surprised we never saw a gun brandished in there at all. Messing with people's money + crazy people + addiction was not a good combo. We did have a guy who kept threatening to kill himself and security kicked him out many times but they kept letting him back in. We did have several suicides found in the hotel, but never in the casino.
I feel so bad for all those kids who were just trying to better themselves when some crazy person decides he's going to send a message.
I was wondering what the answer was supposed to be to the religion question. Does that mean he was shooting people he thought would go to heaven?
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Word in the media says just the opposite, he wanted to kill christians.Word on the street is he's a Christian nutbag named Chris Harper Mercer that wanted to kill atheists. He looks half white/half black.... but more white... I dunno. Not that it matters. Just sayin you can't tell by looking at him what race he is. Not sure on the motive either. Just a rumor.
See what I mean?
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Correct as usual Paul. He stood them up, asked if they were christian and said "You will meet God in one second"
To my Father. Even though you have crossed the plane, you will always be with me.
You were not just my Father, but my hero. My life has been a poor attempt to be like you
You taught me music, vocals, and how to fight. I can only hope I am half the man you are
When I close my eyes I can see you. And finally, Thank you Dad. for everything.
March 1934-July 2016
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I agree he does look kind of mixed in that picture but someone today said he had something to do with the Aryan Nation? IDK if that's a rumor or not but I see I was right about him killing Christians since he believed they were going to heaven.
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Like I said in my original post it was just a rumor. Either way it's a fucked up sick mind.... And honestly either thing hasn't been confirmed. I heard one account that said that and that was second hand from a dude that didn't seem too together.
Two things that have have been confirmed is that he had an arsenal of 7 weapons he bought legally, body armor, and enough ammo for a long siege; and it is a gun loving community whose gun nut sheriff said he wouldn't enforce gun laws. Another fact.... states with the strictest gun laws have the fewest gun deaths as opposed to states with the most lenient gun laws have the most gun deaths.
Conclusion: We need more guns
Myth.
It's not a myth when the data backs it up. I'll tell you what IS a myth... that Zionist banks and secret elite memberships are running the world.
Another fact: An entity that loves these shootings is the NRA. The profits soar every time this happens
http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/compa...tvv?li=AAa0dzB
Last edited by StewartGilliganGriffin; 10-02-2015 at 03:08 PM.
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Let's take Chicago and Illinois for an example.......Illinois has some of the toughest gun laws on the books.....they just don't enforce it. Hence....Chicago is a free fire zone.
Moving on
To my Father. Even though you have crossed the plane, you will always be with me.
You were not just my Father, but my hero. My life has been a poor attempt to be like you
You taught me music, vocals, and how to fight. I can only hope I am half the man you are
When I close my eyes I can see you. And finally, Thank you Dad. for everything.
March 1934-July 2016
And there it is. Chicago. One city. How many of those killed in Chicago are criminals/friendly fire due to drug/turf wars? How many due to mass shootings? And still with all that Illinois per capita doesn't make the list. So wanna talk Myths? Start with Chicago being used as an example by the right.
We'll take it further. Here are the top 20 per side. States in blue voted for Obama last election. Pink voted for Romney.
If you notice Illinois is 8.2 per 100,000 which actually makes it part of the safe list by comparison.
Last edited by StewartGilliganGriffin; 10-02-2015 at 03:20 PM.
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This gun thing really is cultural - I was born and raised in Canada and I know nothing about guns and I don't know anyone who owns a gun. I have distant cousins in Ohio who I visited a number of times - they own guns and treat their guns as family members. Sometimes happens when you cross the border.
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A) If you want news on it you could check your homepage/any news source/any news channel etc. This is a message board, not a news site.Wow; I came here to learn about this horrific incident, and I find someone politicizing it. Nothing of which that person posted is true. Why don't you post how many deaths due to automobiles in that same time period? I would like to see cocaine, meth, heroin, etc made illegal.Too much of that out there. I wonder what would happen if we made alcohol illegal? Too bad Chris Mintz also didn't have a gun on him at the time.
Here's something, and I just learned about this- Happyland Social Club - a boyfriend was pissed at his girlfriend at this club, was unable to get a gun, but came back with gasoline and set the place on fire, killing 87 people.
B) It should be politicized.
C) Just because you don't like the facts doesn't mean they are untrue.
D) Your name suits you.
Last edited by StewartGilliganGriffin; 10-02-2015 at 06:13 PM.
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Sane people do not pull the trigger on innocents.
Stay in Drugs. Eat your School. Don't do Vegetables.
Nathan Salminen, a left wing political hack, owns politicsthatwork.com, from which the colorful graph above was lifted. But Salminen even admits...on the same page he posted Gun Deaths per 100,000 color coded by 2012 presidential candidate (as if that has anything to do with the subject, which it doesn't, other than showing political bias)...Salminen states
(Emphasis added)The states with the fewest gun deaths tend to be the states with the most liberal gun control policies and the states with the most gun deaths tend to be the states with the most conservative gun control policies. However, gun control policies do not actually differ that dramatically between most of the states on the 'best' list and the states on the 'worst' list. For example, what freedom do gun owners in Wyoming have that gun owners in Iowa do not?
So a Salminen even admits stricter gun control policies have little effect on violent crime. That Oregon college has a total gun ban including the security guard. Now 9 people are dead because of it. Same old story.
http://politicsthatwork.com/graphs/gun-deaths-by-state
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Refute the facts. You gave opinions. No facts. And actually on CNN I just saw a guy that was there 100 yards away from the shooting who had a conceal to carry license... and had a gun on him. But he didn't do anything. Just like no one carrying would have either. What would have stopped this tragedy would have been not to allow this person to legally buy 13 guns, body armor, and enough ammo for a siege.
More guns = more death. That's it. It's been shown over and over again. Strict gun laws leads to fewer deaths. Period. Any argument to the contrary is wrong and spewed by people that love guns and shooting guns more than they like human life. Not having common sense gun laws is insane.
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It's so sad now that whenever there's a mass shooting, it's no longer surprising to read about it.
When Australia implemented the National Firearms Programme Implementation Act the mid 90s because of a mass shooting (Port Arthur massacre), our gun crime/fatality rate dropped significantly (even though it wasn't that high to begin with). There has been no mass shootings here since 1996.
Something similar needs to be done in America.
Nice post. I post Australia as an example of gun laws working. Unfortunately I've had to bring it up several times as these shootings happen here every couple weeks. The gun nuts don't care. They claim your gun laws did nothing. The fact is they don't care how many facts you throw at them, or how many times they get proven wrong. They like guns and they want to have as many of them as they want no matter what. Innocent people be damned.
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I believe that deep down most 2nd Amendment advocates realize that stricter gun laws would make events like this less likely. But the occasional massacre is a small price to pay for the "right to bear arms". As Jim Jefferies said, the only real pro-gun argument is "Fuck off! I like guns!"
Sincerely yours,
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Any crime stats you see on Chicago are only the tip of the iceberg, so far they are on pace for 2,500 shootings for the year, NYC and LA are way behind that amount.
But yet, you hear every Monday am that 20 people were shot over the weekend, every single news report always says "crime is down." So shootings are up, but crime is down?
Incidentally, Illinois was the last state to pass concealed carry, the city of Chicago was the reason. They tried to add language making concealed carry legal in all the rest of the state but Chicago, but after multiple lawsuits they gave up.
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It was not a mass shooting. The 2nd Amendment is the only thing gun nuts have to hide behind, because there is no other logical argument for your gun laws.
"For every 1 million Americans, there are 29.7 homicides by firearm each year, the Human Development Index reported.
While Australia, which saw its gun death rate plunge by more than half since 1996 when it tightened gun laws, has just 1.4 firearm homicides per million."
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-28/a-look-at-gun-violence-laws-in-america/6731234
Last edited by Little Chief; 10-03-2015 at 10:02 AM.
People do know the constitution isn't a holy text right? I mean it wasn't given in a burning bush and all. Written by man. As such, fallible. The writers would have no clue how technology would advance. They wrote that with muskets in mind where the best marksman could get off 3 shots a minutes.... maybe. And it can be changed. It's called amendments. We have several of them. But the constitution talk is just what the previous poster said... it's something gun nuts hide behind. I bet if the constitution said every man had the god given right to stick his cock in another man's asshole you'd be ready to change the holy constitution pretty fucking fast. Then again these massacre type things and "stuff happens".
Jeb Bush said "stuff happens" in response to this massacre. Hence the last line in my post. Just the typical caring, sympathy, and empathy of the right wing in America.
I also saw the guy who was near the college who was carrying. He stated he proceeded toward the scene but when he arrived he was stopped by authorities. That's the reason he "didn't do anything".
Re Australia, violent crime has increased dramatically since the 1996 gun ban, according to the National Center for Policy Analysis.
As of 2009, Australia's total violent crime rate had risen 42 per cent as opposed to the US 32 percent decrease.
For example, an Australian woman is 3 times as likely to be raped as an American woman, an increase of 30 per cent between 1995 and 2007 as opposed to the US drop of 19 percent rape during the same time period.
Ban guns and gun crime may decrease little, if at all. However overall violent crime increases dramatically, stats the gun grabbers like to ignore.
http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=17847
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Any minute now all of these pro\anti gun arguments are going to work like magic and everybody is going to change their mind and start arguing the other point of view.
As for me:
Fuck off - I like my guns.
I like my signature too...
And even if I had a constitutional right to stick my...
Well, having the right and exercising the right are two different things of course.
A faulty hypothesis forming:
A German scientist using Iranian physics and French mathematics.
LMFAO!!! The NCPA? Why not just post stats from the NRA? Allen West is the founder and CEO baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahaha Very unbiased and true analysis from that fucking nazi I'm sure. Fucking sad. Other than the atomic bomb and conservatives I'm starting to think the worst thing ever invented is the internet.
And Jim you're right. If the slaughter of so many babies at Newtown won't change you gun nuts minds nothing will. The blood is on all your hands.
I hope there is a heaven and when/if you all get there you get the rude awakening you all deserve. Not all shootings can be stopped with gun control. But some can. And all the ones that could be stopped with common sense laws.... laws even Ronald Reagan was in favor of!!!!, are your fault. Each and every one of you selfish mother fuckers.
Last edited by StewartGilliganGriffin; 10-03-2015 at 07:35 PM.
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Like it or not, The Constitution is the law of this land. I'll trust the brilliant group of men behind the inception of it far beyond I'll trust those who want to ignore/pervert it. Everything that's written into The Constitution is in there for a damn good reason. Learn a bit of history and you'll see why. Here's something that may be of interest to those keen on to why the 2nd Amendment matters -- the "Battle Of Athens" - 1946, and also, of course- the American Revolutionary War.
Jeb Bush is a joke.
Thank you, Bidmor, for expanding on chose claims made by those expressing partial truths.
Dont like guns? Don't own one. Don't like mass shootings? Get a gun and help stop them.
Last edited by Lt. Frank Drebin; 10-03-2015 at 07:51 PM.
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OK - I'm good with that.
I'd like to post a bit more on this but my .45 is insisting that I let it out to kill something.
Maybe when it's done...
A faulty hypothesis forming:
A German scientist using Iranian physics and French mathematics.
I'll give someone a dollar American if they tell me what Frank's real handle is. Coward is obviously using an alt to troll.
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Robert Farrell
Australian Gun Law Update
Here's a thought to warm some of your hearts....
From: Ed Chenel, A police officer in Australia
Hi Yanks, I thought you all would like to see the real
figures from Down Under.
It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced by a new law to
surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by our own
government, a program costing Australia taxpayers
more than $500 million dollars.
The first year results are now in:
Australia-wide, homicides are up 6.2 percent,
Australia-wide, assaults are up 9.6 percent;
Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent)!
In the state of Victoria.....
lone, homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent.(Note that
while the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals did not
and criminals still possess their guns!)
While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady
decrease in armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past 12 months, since the criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed.There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins andassaults of the elderly, while the resident is at home.
Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public
safety has decreased, after such monumental effort and expense was expended in 'successfully ridding Australian society of guns....' You won't see this on the American evening news or hear your governor or members of the State Assembly disseminating this information.
The Australian experience speaks for itself. Guns in the
hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws affect only the law-abiding citizens.
Take note Americans, before it's too late!
Will you be one of the sheep to turn yours in?
WHY? You will need it.
FORWARD TO EVERYONE ON YOUR EMAIL LIST.
DON'T BE A MEMBER OF THE SILENT MAJORITY.
BE ONE OF THE VOCAL MINORITY WHO WON 'T STAND FOR NONSENSE
AUSTRALIA: MORE VIOLENT CRIME DESPITE GUN BAN
FLA
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Apparently Christians weren't targeted. Neither were atheists. I knew that guy that told the story his daughter told him to CNN was off. It made no sense. His daughter probably told him he asked if anyone was a Christian. He made up the rest in his warped mind. Probably a persecution loving christian. Anyway here is the account of an actual survivor.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/oregon-shooters-suicide-after-rampage-was-planned-survivor/ar-AAf47xu?li=AAa0dzB
Here is an excerpt of the relevant info from the article posted:
Despite some reports to the contrary, McGowan said Harper-Mercer didn't appear to target Christians in particular.
"He didn't really, honestly," McGowan said in a quiet voice while standing on the doorstep of his house in Roseburg, Oregon, on Saturday morning.
McGowan’s right arm was wrapped up after surgery from a gunshot wound.
"Obviously he was asking what religion, but he wasn't really just targeting. He was kind of just saying, 'Oh, since you have a God, you'll be joining him in a little bit," McGowan told The News.
"It wasn't really like, 'I'm targeting you and I'm going to kill you,'" he said.
Last edited by StewartGilliganGriffin; 10-03-2015 at 08:32 PM.
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FU 2, you imbecile.
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I thought the whole targeting Christians thing sounded a bit off; but there again perpetrating something like this is way off to begin with. Does anyone else find it a bit surprising how far off the initial media reports were? The first reports I saw had 20 dead, 15 wounded and people being "lined up" and questioned about their faith with Christians being shot in the head; non-Christians or people who didn't answer the questions being shot in the legs.
A faulty hypothesis forming:
A German scientist using Iranian physics and French mathematics.
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News outlets get in too big of a hurry nowadays trying to be first. The fog after a horrific event can make 50 people see 50 different things from the same event. Throw in the internet and it becomes a shit storm.
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so agreed Clean!
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