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    He would have been President in 2008 if he had lived. Never would have heard of Obama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cash View Post
    He would have been President in 2008 if he had lived. Never would have heard of Obama.
    Doubt that. Why? Because some idiot would have shot him during the race, that's why. And if by some miracle he made it to the white house some idiot would have killed him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cash View Post
    I have not seen it yet. But in reading this article and a couple of others I will know what to expect from it. Lost in Camelot circa 1960, seeing only the dream and not the reality. And for the record I have always hated that family.
    To really know people is to be able to read between the lines on their faces.

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    I missed it. Just saw bits and pieces on the preview. Does not seem like 20 years ago.

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    Well, I've always loved them. I guess it's an American thing. However, I don't and never have idolized them. Old Joe made his fortune bootlegging. Young Joe wanted to trump Jack's PT=109 heroism and died in the sky. Kick insisted her pilot fly in inclement weather. Jack refused a bubble top on the presidential limo. JFK Jr. insisted on flying without one of his instructors. Books have been written about their self-entitled exploits. They were not cursed. The American writer Henry Miller said "We create our fate every day we live." And we do. And they did.

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    Maybe I am in a bad mood or something, but...

    What did this guy EVER accomplish, other than EVENTUALLY passing the bar? I realize a lot of people think he was cute, but they would never have even seen a photo of him if not for who his father was. Lots of cute people in the world. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by cash View Post
    I saw it. They seemed more interested in talking about how great a guy he was then giving the true story in my opinion. One admission was that far from his salute as a toddler being a spur of the moment thing, it had been planned and practised beforehand and Jackie told him when to do it. They seemed more interested in who he dated and spent a good deal of time going back to that again and again and as usual, Carolyn was portrayed one minute as a women who had more balls than most men, capable of standing up to him and everyone else then the next, she was this does eyed innocent who couldn't deal.

    The crash seemed like an afterthought and there was only one person who said he had no business flying while the rest seemed to blame it on the weather and other factors rather than come out and say he was at fault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shellc View Post
    I saw it. They seemed more interested in talking about how great a guy he was then giving the true story in my opinion. One admission was that far from his salute as a toddler being a spur of the moment thing, it had been planned and practised beforehand and Jackie told him when to do it. They seemed more interested in who he dated and spent a good deal of time going back to that again and again and as usual, Carolyn was portrayed one minute as a women who had more balls than most men, capable of standing up to him and everyone else then the next, she was this does eyed innocent who couldn't deal.

    The crash seemed like an afterthought and there was only one person who said he had no business flying while the rest seemed to blame it on the weather and other factors rather than come out and say he was at fault.
    I got that same impression, easier to look the other way then face facts. I think the family motto was "Because we can" or something like that. Their arrogance, recklessness and abject stupidity has caused a lot of damage not only to themselves but to many others over the years. http://martybhasissues.blogspot.com/...y-dynasty.html
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    I remember seeing an interview shortly after the crash with a pilot there at the airport.
    He talked about how bad the flying conditions were the night of the crash.

    He was there that night and heard a plane taxiing out to the runway for take off and thought something like, "Some fool is going to die out there tonight."
    A faulty hypothesis forming:
    A German scientist using Iranian physics and French mathematics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimC View Post
    I remember seeing an interview shortly after the crash with a pilot there at the airport.
    He talked about how bad the flying conditions were the night of the crash.

    He was there that night and heard a plane taxiing out to the runway for take off and thought something like, "Some fool is going to die out there tonight."
    I've watched quite a few documentaries about the crash and in everyone, they have put the blame on him which is where it should be. There were quite a few pilots interviewed including some with 20+ years experience and even they said they wouldn't dare go out unless they absolutely had to because the weather was that bad.

    A couple of people seemingly did warn him it was a bad idea and even offered the option of someone going with him to be on the safe side when it became clear he was still going ahead but he waved them off saying he would be fine.

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    Carole Radziwill who was married to John's cousin Anthony has said in the past she would never have flown with him because of his inexperience. She should have said that in the interview. Sad that her own husband died a month after John from cancer. I have read John considered Anthony not only a cousin but his best friend, and was very close to Lee Radziwill, more then the Kennedy's.
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