Missin' you Layne
Your spirit will always live on through your music.
You will never be forgotten.
Missin' you Layne
Your spirit will always live on through your music.
You will never be forgotten.
Never forget
How sad to think about Mikes Birthday with him now gone too and then the day after Layne's deathday
This forum introduced me to Layne and AIC and i'm no longer thirsty for news about Layne because i need to know all i want to i've never been one to dig and delve too deeply about any person but Laynes voice touched my soul his story made me heartsick for him and his family and i learnt to understand more about addiction and to help me understand a bit better to how my son's father lived and coped up until his death so today i raise a glass to Layne (well more a cup of tea as i don't drink alcohol lol) and hope he continues to rest in peace
RIP to the man who still touches my soul. Still heartsick and missing you Layne.
RIP Layne & Mike...brothers forever, On Earth and above:
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] "I just know I'm not the greatest power on this earth. I didn't create myself, because I would have done a hell of a better job." -Layne Staley
RIP Layne you are forever missed <3
Love you and miss you Layne even if I'm to young to know you <3 Rest In Peace four song's for you that make me think of you <3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrkroF1rydo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsyPe21jOro
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkumK..._order&list=UL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VubKh...x=2&playnext=1
Last edited by TeddyBear; 04-06-2011 at 12:30 AM.
baroque1-sorry I missed your post originally. The quote button messed up so my quoted post and your reply are altogether-I thought you'd just quoted my post!
As I've said, I won't go into all the details as I think most of the fans here have heard them already.
The gist is...Layne had a lot of personal posessions taken from him in his final months.
It's been alleged that Mike Starr may've known something about this...specifically some artwork that Layne was working on at the time of his death. I believe it was a family member-nephew?- and was on an easel. When Layne was found, the artwork was missing. I believe the 'person responsible' was spoken to and the artwork returned. I'm trying to be as tactful as I can be here as some fans get upset about this.There were other items that I was told this person' supposedly knew' about too. I'll leave it there! As Ive said..don't know whether this is accurate but the stories came from various sources so who knows?...Whatever, as soon as I saw the clips from Celeb Rehab, everything in my gut screamed it was false. O/T (I also don't trust that Dr Drew guy either. HIs methods seem spurious to me.)
Last edited by Alice_Layne; 04-06-2011 at 04:17 PM.
This was heard from a certain person that posted these things in the first Layne thread. I question their validity. THAT person is the only person I've ever heard that from. Except from people who choose to regurgitate it. Bottom line is that Mike was NEVER charged with ANY crime regarding Layne. There were several hundred dollars in cash in Layne's condo laying on the floor in plain view....why wasn't that taken? And also, Layne's mom would have known if something was stolen and NOT returned. I think she would have called Mike on this during Cel Rehab, I know as a mother I would.
Ok. Well, as I have said, I heard and read from several sources.Maybe it became like Chinese whispers regarding the alleged missing items.I do know that whomever the poster was on here, he'/she was referred to elsewhere and the info appeared elsewhere at the same time.Whether it was someone quick off the mark and copying the poster from here I don't know.(or vice versa)
I very much doubt anyway that the family would have proceeded with charges, gone down the formal route-just my opinion.
As for the money, I'd heard he often had money lying around-probably unable to keep track of it all. Whos to know if any/how much was taken? It mayve looked suspicious to take it all. I'm very into looking into crimes etc-thats how my mind works-I hope you understand what I mean?
Also, I have to disagree with you about Laynes' mother-I really don't think she would have called him out in public-especially given the subject matter of the show. There are some addicts who do unpalatable things for money and simply cannot ever admit to anyone-including themselves-what they have done. This isn't a criticism, it's a fact.
I will have to respectfully disagree with you, Sea of Sorrow, on these points. JMHO.
I've talked to Nancy and Layne's father and many people "in the know"...as I said I've only read that info one place and that was on FAD. I can get on here and say the moon is purple, but that doesn't mean I know a fuck about what I am saying. I would love to see the sevral sources to pick their brains. Nancy doesn't seem to believe ANY of this.
I am not being anything but thorough in what I have heard. Not that it really matters in the whole scheme of things, because the 2 people that know EXACTLY what happened are gone now. So, we will never, ANY of us, know the truth.
As speculation goes Layne rarely let anyone into his condo in his final months so it puzzles me as to how anyone would know what was in Layne's place up to the time of his death that could concur things were stolen, like this famous artwork of Oscar maybe he was drawing it but made a mistake ripped it up etc if he was indeed drawing it at all. Nancy has said things of Layne's were stolen but that was from a lock up/storage place Layne had, nothing at all has been confirmed things were actually stolen from his condo Mike did confirm he was there to spend his birthday with Layne the day before but i really can't see how a drawing could have benefited him in any way surely the money would have been a better steal so i don't believe it either and as for the celeb rehab show i'm sure Nancy and Mike said alot more to eachother that wasn't aired on tv
These are just my thoughts on it all
Last edited by Mysticakasha; 04-06-2011 at 11:47 PM.
Thank you Alice Layne! I didn't mean to stir the pot so I'm asking all members to calm down and move on please. I appreciate the answers to my questions.
My own opinion is that Mike didn't confess everything to Nancy on National tv and Nancy was focused on helping Mike stay sober so she probably edited herself too.
I told my lawyer he's better step it up or we would both end up on an episode of "SNAPPED"
Last edited by tjoy; 04-07-2011 at 08:29 AM.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] "I just know I'm not the greatest power on this earth. I didn't create myself, because I would have done a hell of a better job." -Layne Staley
Remember folks, opinions are like...well, you know. As long you state your opinion respectfully, all will be well.
The most dangerous woman of all is the one who refuses to rely on your sword to save her because she carries her own.
- R.H. Sin
There is a cool book called "Grunge is Dead" by Greg Plato. I got mine from Amazon. It's very interesting and has a chapter on Layne.
I never wrote that everyone on the thread would send vicious responses, but yes, what I wrote is the truth. Please look back at the thread to the responses. My opionion was called bullshit, I was called an idiot and a lame ass. That is pretty vicious.
Regardless, I have chosen to keep my opinion on Layne or Mike to myself because of how people responded to me, which will no doubt make everyone happy as pigs in shit.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] "I just know I'm not the greatest power on this earth. I didn't create myself, because I would have done a hell of a better job." -Layne Staley
Thank you Nessa...I don't think anyone is being rude at all, just stating what we know.
I don't get angry when people don't agree with me...but I get a little miffed when I have met members of Layne's family and talked to them and know a little something and try to explain it to people and they act like they know more than me. And that's fine, but I am not into taking the word of a phantom on a forum, and believing what they say.
I can also say that I think I know the person that said this stuff on here and believe her to be a phony and an embellisher. I think that she knew certain things, things that were divulged to her from MIKE, and she added on and twisted things to benefit herself. That's why I think she is a jilted lover or something.
Regardless, I am glad that Mike got to say his apologies to Nancy, make amends before he died. He carried that burden within himself for a long time and guilt only helped him in his demise.
Copied from Nessa...very befitting, this quote:
"To the living we owe respect, but to the dead we owe only truth."
- Voltaire
Last edited by tjoy; 04-07-2011 at 11:15 AM.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] "I just know I'm not the greatest power on this earth. I didn't create myself, because I would have done a hell of a better job." -Layne Staley
I apologize that you feel that way. There is nothing wrong with a good argument as long as it remains civil. That person shouldn't have talked to you that way, and I am sorry that he/she did. I respect your opinion, and at one time felt almost the same way. Not quite as harsh, because these people are drug addicts. I venture to say that Layne did some very unsavory things under the influence of drugs. But he is dear to so many, they don't hold it against him.
Bottom line is you are repeating what was said on a thread on a forum and you choose to believe it. I am just offering what I do know, so that you can see both sides of it. I am not saying what I have is 100% accurate, but I am saying it is more accurate than what most know. That's all....I can't twist your arm. Anyway...let's get back to Layne. I have a couple new pics from when he was first starting out:
I made them smaller...I have big ones though if anyone is interested...just pm me.
This is a strange angled pic of Layne and Mike...I was going to rotate it but it is still better off kilter!!
I never had a bad thing to say about Layne, and think he touched each of us in a special way. I only wish he would have been able to get well.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] "I just know I'm not the greatest power on this earth. I didn't create myself, because I would have done a hell of a better job." -Layne Staley
Thanks for keeping it friendly, guys and gals!
The most dangerous woman of all is the one who refuses to rely on your sword to save her because she carries her own.
- R.H. Sin
Well, sorry but I've found this and your last post rude towards me! I have been nothing but courteous to everyone on this site and would expect the same courtesy to be extended.
Your 'evidence' is that you claim to have spoken to Laynes' parents. Fine. Why would the family divulge certain things to someone outside of the inner circle?
As for Laynes father............
We don't know each other-there's no reason for you to believe me and vice versa.
However, I am not a 'phantom'-I do happen to be real!
I had already stated that I would have to disagree with you and that should have been enough.
About 85% of the posts on this site are speculative-thats what the site is. People speculate about events surrounding deaths of others-just because the speculation is about someone you happen to like, dosen't mean that people cannot comment as they see fit-so long as they are not being rude!
I tried very hard to be tactful on this subject & therfore resent being made to feel that I acted like 'I knew more than you'. I posted part of what I know-which may or may not be credible-same as you.
Please respect my right to state my opinion. Thank you.
Ok..heres a link to a forum that hints at what I was trying to say in my posts re Laynes' death/last hours.
Note, there is a person on the thread who is a musician, has written a book and claims to have been a friend of Mikes'.
Make your own judgement about it. What I have heard /read is not confined to some posts made here by someone I've never even heard of!
It is possible for more than one person to know about something!
Anyway, here's the link:
http://www.thegearpage.net/board/sho...d.php?t=863311
I have had personal correspondence with Nancy (Layne's mother) and I would ten times believe her over others claiming to intimately know Layne and Mike.
And really...what does it matter now? They are both gone. I believe they both have the right to rest in peace.
They've both "paid their dues".
Just my 2 cents
Anyway, love to remember the periods when Layne was clean...
What is Layne's mom going to tell you? Information she heard from Layne through letters and phone calls. NONE OF US KNOW WHAT LAYNE AND NANCY DISCUSSED. She can talk until she is blue in the face but that does not exclude THE FACT that she lived in Alaska during this time and was not privy to Layne's health or reactions. He told her what he wanted her to know.
All of you can say that you have spoken to Layne's mom and dad, but that doesn't change anything. All of us are aware that neither of them were that privy to what Layne was experiencing at the time (Layne's mom lived in Alaska and his dad was *who knows where*). Any guilty parent will also tell you what they want you to believe to take the blame off of themselves for guilt that they were not more active in his life. They, like us, don't even know what happened that last night so it is neither here nor there.
As far as I am concerned, MY OPINION was and still is NOT respected by the majority of the people on this thread and that is disheartening. I can say what I want, but will be attacked unforgivably for doing so.
Last edited by tjoy; 04-07-2011 at 07:22 PM.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] "I just know I'm not the greatest power on this earth. I didn't create myself, because I would have done a hell of a better job." -Layne Staley
Absolutely true^^...I wasn't referring to anyone on here now. This wasn't anything regarding you at all, so I'm not sure where the resentment would be coming from. I apologize for you feeling that way. It certainly wasn't my intention.
And my answer to tjoy was very sincere. It isn't right that someone talked to her that way and they were dealt with by the mods. As they should have been.
Layne & Mike with Jennifer Beals:
Nancy, Mike & Gayle Starr on Celebrity Rehab, regarding Layne:
Nessa are these pictures an OK size??
I've read that before. Bobby D has mentioned several times before that he was good friends with Mike and saw Layne back in 2001. There are a couple of others on that board that knew Mike and basically gave a very similar story about Mike and Layne's last days. You can do your own digging if you want to.