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    People like her need to be taken out back and shot. Why even bother sending them to prison to be a burden on tax payers. There is no cure for these monsters and they won't be rehabilitated.


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    It won't bring Stephanie back, but this is some small bit of good news, imo:

    A sentence has just been announced in the case of the teenage Toronto girl convicted of murdering Stefanie Rengel.
    The girl has been sentenced as an adult to life in prison with no chance at parole for seven years.
    The adult sentence also means the girl can for the first time be named.
    She's Melissa Todorovic (toh-DORE-oh-VIK)
    Fourteen year old Rengel was murdered on New Years Day last year.
    Todorovic's boyfriend stabbed Rengel six times and left her to bleed to death in a snowbank outside her East York home.
    Todorovic was convicted of first degree murder in March
    The jury agreed with the Crown's argument that the 15-year-old girl had pressured her boyfriend to kill Rengel in a fit of jealousy.
    Evidence showed Todorovic sent repeated texts and Facebook messages to her boyfriend saying she wanted Rengel dead
    Todorovic's lawyer had called for a youth sentence because she didn't actually do the stabbing.
    But the judge said that is outweighed by indisputable evidence that she engaged in an unrelenting campaign for the
    Her boyfriend pleaded guilty to first degree murder shortly after her conviction.
    The Crown is also seeking an adult sentence in that case.
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    Here's a 50-second clip of her police interview:

    http://www.thestar.com/videozone/672886
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    I'm glad that they gave her a life sentence but she will be up for parole in 7 yrs whether she gets paroled or not we'll have to see. Her boyfriend that actually stabbed Stefanie is he getting anything at all? It seems that he should just because he was being forced by her shouldn't let him off the hook. I agree that she should get more than him though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guardmom2008 View Post
    I'm glad that they gave her a life sentence but she will be up for parole in 7 yrs whether she gets paroled or not we'll have to see. Her boyfriend that actually stabbed Stefanie is he getting anything at all? It seems that he should just because he was being forced by her shouldn't let him off the hook. I agree that she should get more than him though.
    His sentencing is coming up in a month or so. He is f***ed, if you ask me. If the instigator was sentenced as an adult, he will be too. But since he was the actual killer, I doubt very much if he'll be getting parole in seven years.
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    She doesn't look much like a murderer, does she?
    On the other hand, what's a murderer look like?
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    Transcript of the 911 call

    On Jan. 1, 2008, a passing motorist saw 14-year-old Stefanie Rengel staggering down Northdale Blvd., near O'Connor Dr. and St. Clair Ave. E. When she said she had been stabbed, accountant Gavin Shoebottom called 911 at 6:12 p.m. Because of confusion about the location, it took 10 minutes for the ambulance to arrive.
    Here is an edited transcript of that 911 call:
    911 OPERATOR: (phone rings) Emergency. Do you require Police, Fire, Ambulance?
    MALE: Yes. Someone's stabbed. In on ah North —
    OPERATOR: I'll transfer. I'll transfer you to Ambulance. Hang on. (Phone ringing)
    MALE: – Hold it, hold it, hold it. Hold your stomach. Hold your stomach. Hold your stomach. (phone ringing) Hold your stomach.
    AMBULANCE OPERATOR: Where do you need us?
    MALE: Yeah. Someone's stabbed on Northridge ah Crescent, next Bermondsey, um, I think it's Northridge –
    AMBULANCE OPERATOR: – Ber Bermondsey and where? North?
    MALE: Bermondsey Northridge I think it is. You guys should know this.
    AMBULANCE OPERATOR: Do you have a cloth or towel?
    MALE: Do you have a cloth or towel? Oh s---. (noise in background).
    AMBULANCE OPERATOR: What's your first name, sir?
    MALE: Gavin, Gavin.
    OPERATOR: How old is she?
    MALE: I don't know. She seems pretty young. She seems like maybe a teenager or 20. Okay. Where you stabbed?
    OPERATOR: Okay, sir. Is she lying down or sitting?
    FEMALE: (Trying to talk in background, can't understand her)
    MALE: Ah?
    OPERATOR: Is she sitting or standing?
    FEMALE: (T
    rying to talk in background, can't understand her)
    MALE: (female voice in background) No. She's laying in the snow. (female voice in the background)
    OPERATOR: Okay.
    MALE: Where honey, where? (female voice in background) In your stomach?
    FEMALE: Yeah.
    MALE: Oh God.
    AMBULANCE OPERATOR: Whatever you have, okay, any kind of cloth
    MALE: –I have yeah
    OPERATOR: – put directly on the wound
    MALE: – I got a I got a bed sheet. I got a bed sheet.
    OPERATOR : Okay.
    MALE: I'm trying to find the wound but I don't want to (female voice in background) keep ...
    OPERATOR: Find the wound and put pressure on it, Gavin.
    MALE: I'm trying to find it.
    OPERATOR: Okay.
    FEMALE: It hurts.
    MALE: Yeah . . . ambulance . . .
    OPERATOR: Okay.
    MALE: But I can't find her wound.
    OPERATOR: Is the ambulance still nearby?
    FEMALE: (moaning and trying to talk in background)
    MALE: Okay. Where, your stomach? Your stomach?
    FEMALE: (Moaning in background) Yes.
    MALE: Okay. Okay. I got it. Stomach.
    OPERATOR: Okay.
    MALE: Okay.
    OPERATOR: Gavin, is the person who stabbed her still there?
    MALE: Yeah, ah no. I don't think so, I mean I'm looking around. I got a couple of other guys with me now.
    OPERATOR: Okay.
    MALE: She's okay. I think.
    OPERATOR: – Is there a lot of bleeding?
    MALE: Ah, I see a little bit of blood in the snow. I don't see it pouring out um —
    OPERATOR: - Is she completely awake?
    MALE: She yeah, she's completely awake. She's crying. She's in a lot of pain.
    OPERATOR: And it's right in her stomach?
    MALE: I think so. I'm trying to look. I think it's on her side. She's laying on it.
    OPERATOR: Is there more than one wound?
    MALE: I don't think so. I can't really find it.
    OPERATOR: Okay.
    MALE: Okay. I got it. Where's the ambulance?
    OPERATOR: The ambulance is well on the way, okay.
    MALE: Okay.
    MALE: Don't get up. Don't get up sweetie.
    FEMALE: God. (crying)
    MALE: I know. The ambulance is coming sweetie. Don't worry, don't worry.
    FEMALE: (talking. can't understand her)
    MALE: You'll be okay. You'll be okay. Don't worry honey. Don't worry. I'm gonna (sic)
    OPERATOR: – Gavin, can you ask her where he went?
    MALE: Where he went? Where did he go?
    FEMALE: Went that way.
    MALE: He went up towards like . . . Crescent, toward like ah —
    OPERATOR: – O'Connor?
    MALE: Yeah. Yeah.
    OPERATOR: You said westbound on Northline?
    MALE: No. Northline's a Crescent. I don't know if it's here. I don't know these side streets.
    OPERATOR: Okay. What did he look like? Was he black, white?
    MALE: Black, white, Hispanic? What is he?
    FEMALE: He's white (crying).
    MALE: He's white. He's white. What's he wearing? What's he wearing?
    FEMALE: I don't know.
    MALE: I don't know. Where's this friggin ambulance. I heard it but now I —
    OPERATOR: – they're almost there Gavin. They're almost there.
    OPERATOR: – is there any means of getting a description of the gentleman who stabbed her?
    MALE: Um he's white, okay sweetie, how tall, how tall is he? Tall, about? Oh oh.
    OPERATOR: She's not responding?
    MALE: Yes. Are you okay?
    OPERATOR: Okay.
    MALE: Hurry up. Yeah. She's starting not to respond now.
    OPERATOR: Okay. We, we're well on the way. Don't try and push her to talk if she's not comfortable.
    MALE: Okay.
    OPERATOR: That's okay. I don't want to put her in any type of -
    MALE: –Okay. I don't know what to do. I can't find the wound's not really bleeding that much. I can't find it. Ah–
    OPERATOR: – You're doing great, Gavin.
    MALE: Come on sweetie. They're almost here. I hear them.
    OPERATOR: Sir?
    MALE: Yeah?
    OPERATOR: We can't find you. That's the problem.
    MALE: Still can't find me?
    OPERATOR: –so, Northdale and Hollinger?
    MALE: Yeah. It's Northdale. Yeah. That's the one. I should remember that. Northdale and Hollinger. Oh oh. Sweetie. Oh, she's starting to spit up.
    OPERATOR: Okay. Gavin, turn her on her side. Turn her on her side.
    MALE: Okay. She's on her side. She's on her side.
    OPERATOR: Okay.
    MALE: Okay. Yeah. She's starting to spit up. Yeah. I've got a guy here.
    OPERATOR: Are you–
    MALE: – Go to the end of Hollinger –
    OPERATOR: –And see where the stab wound is?
    MALE: Oh. There it is. I see, I see something here.
    OPERATOR: Okay.
    MALE: Okay. I got pressure on one stab wound. Did you only get stabbed once honey? She's totally unconscious now. Oh my God.
    AMBULANCE DRIVER: I'm looking for them.
    OPERATOR: Okay.
    MALE: I don't know. I think she . . . I don't know. F---. You gotta (sic) get here.
    OPERATOR: Very good. Just keep pressure on the wound, okay Gavin? You're doing really good.
    MALE: Yeah. I got pressure on the wound. Okay, come on baby. Come on. Come on. Come on. Okay. I see I see more coughs coming. Jesus Christ. I can't believe this. Okay. I see the ambulance.
    OPERATOR: You see the ambulance?
    MALE: Yeah. Okay. Should I let you go?
    OPERATOR: Just wait till they get right beside you, okay?
    MALE: Okay.
    When the ambulance arrived at the scene at 6:22 p.m., Stefanie was VSA (vital signs absent).
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    HOLY HELL. that is so so awful. that poor man...he tried so hard to help her.


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    That man deserves a hug and a thank you. He tried to comfort her in her last moments. At least she wasn't alone.

    So little blood? I take it that there was lots of internal bleeding?


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    I wondered about that too. I would've thought that with six stab wounds, at least one of them fatal, she would've bled more.

    And that poor guy seems so frustrated, at the ambulance not getting there sooner. I guess she was half way down a street, and without being able to see an intersection, he wouldn't be able to see any street signs.
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    if there was snow, perhaps she had a heavy coat or something. he had an awful time looking for it...

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    Yeah she definitely had a heavy winter coat on, which would've absorbed a lot of the blood, I suppose...

    Still, if only he'd been able to give better directions, I can't help but wonder if she'd still be alive. 10 minutes is a loooooong time to wait for an ambulance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by duster View Post
    His sentencing is coming up in a month or so. He is f***ed, if you ask me. If the instigator was sentenced as an adult, he will be too. But since he was the actual killer, I doubt very much if he'll be getting parole in seven years.
    Can't wait to hear his sentence and I am glad that he won't get parole.

    Thanks for the info!

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    Quote Originally Posted by duster View Post


    She doesn't look much like a murderer, does she?
    On the other hand, what's a murderer look like?
    She looks like someone who is destined to be using a Sharpie for eyeliner.
    The problem with monsters is that they look like everybody else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxyMillions View Post
    She looks like someone who is destined to be using a Sharpie for eyeliner.
    The problem with monsters is that they look like everybody else.

    Ahhaaaaaaaa...I think you're right.
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    ugly bitch

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    OMG, that call is soo sad!

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    a video posted by Stefanie's younger brother:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRFxoskzC1c&feature=related

    very sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ksol View Post
    OMG, that call is soo sad!
    I know what you mean. I found that transcript surprisingly disturbing...

    And you're right cash - she's a cow.
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    That transcript is beyond chilling. Followed by her brother's tribute to her, I'm just sick to my stomach. I have absolutely no sympathy for "youthful offenders" who commit heinous crimes like this. They know exactly what they are doing.

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    I realize this is a very old story now but I just found the thread. One thing I caution you all to remember is that you never know the whole story from the news. I am Stefanie's mother and I did speak to Melissa T's mother but it didn't come out in court so you wouldn't know about it. I also spoke to David's mother.
    Nothing could have stopped these two from killing my daughter. Be careful how you assume things and when there is court to think of, families can't say anything publicly for fear of losing the case. It could be quite upsetting for a parent to read when things are already hard enough for them.

    Patricia Hung

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    like the Monsters on Maple Street?
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    looks like dip ass david got into trouble in prison.


    http://news.nationalpost.com/tag/david-bagshaw/

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    How can a prison sentence be called a life sentence if the girl is eligible for parole in seven years and the boy in ten years? That is all the court thinks a person should serve for a premeditated murder of an innocent fourteen year old girl? No wonder Melissa was jealous, Stefanie was cute as can be and Melissa is dumpy looking and ugly and apparently as ugly on the inside as on the outside. David certainly is no prize either. That poor girl died in a horrible way over something stupid. I agree with some others here who commented that this case sounds a lot like the Texas cadet murder case. What does a person have to be convicted of to get a long prison sentence in Canada?

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    To Patricia Hung,
    I know it probably means less than nothing from some faceless stranger on the internet, but I am truly, very sorry for your loss.
    Your impact statement made my heart ache. I will keep you in my prayers tonight.
    Finn

    For anyone wanting to read Patricia's statement, here is a link:
    http://fightforjustice.blogspot.com/...im-impact.html

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    the mastermind behind Rengel's murder is trying to get her conviction overturned on a technicality:

    http://toronto.ctvnews.ca/young-woma...dict-1.1562693

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    Quote Originally Posted by cash View Post
    the mastermind behind Rengel's murder is trying to get her conviction overturned on a technicality:

    http://toronto.ctvnews.ca/young-woma...dict-1.1562693
    Hope it's not overturned...that would be a pisser.

    Wonder if Todorovic is receiving excellent mental health care. She appears to need it. Of course, we all know how successful and rehabilitative prison time is for everybody. What a failed system in so many ways
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    Thank God for that !

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    Reading that transcript I want to weep. I don't even like to think what was going through her mind as she lay there waiting for the ambulance
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    This is a good example of why I plan to home school my son. Kids are just getting worse and worse. My nephew is 12. One day last year he was waiting in line for the bathroom at school and these two boys just jumped him out of nowhere. He didn't even know them. They punched him, slammed his head into the stall wall and pushed him into the toilet. My nephew is a very intelligent, sweet, popular kid.. no one knew why they did it.. they just said they wanted to? I don't understand.

    They just WANTED to? If they were my kids, they'd have just WANTED to get their asses stomped into the ground. Wtf is the matter with my generation, raising psychos like these kids?
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    The transcript left me in tears. How horrible for all involved.
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    At least the killers now have names and faces that will never be forgotten by the outside world, should they ever walk free again.

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    Woman convicted in Stefanie Rengel’s murder has day parole revoked

    https://globalnews.ca/news/5834954/m...rengel-murder/

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    She should have absolutely no access to anything. Keep her locked up 24/7.
    To really know people is to be able to read between the lines on their faces.

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