Maybe that guy should be sent a copy of that movie The Gravedancers. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0435653/
Maybe that guy should be sent a copy of that movie The Gravedancers. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0435653/
ok after playing it the second time...I laughed too...that one secret service guy was a real dope!! which way did he go, which way did he go...
The thing that suprises me is even though Reagan was no longer president (I believe ex-pres still have a Secret Service detail) the protester was able to get that close to him, seeing how Reagan had already had an attempt made on his life (albeit some 10 years earlier).
i kind of felt sorry for Reagan - he looked so defenseless
A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another.
Dumb a$$...
The dancing part doesn't bother me, but I despise the urination. I didn't like Nixon either, but there are limits. Just on general principle.
I read a blog about some drunken punks who went looking for a 19th-century alledged serial killer's grave to desecrate it in various ways, including watery relief. The grave once had a marker, but souvenir hunters probably stole it eons ago, so where the grave actually IS, is not 100% certain--- they could have been piddling on some destitute's grave or a slave's for all they knew.
Anyway, on the way back, they experienced all manner of bizarre happenstances that made them believe the murderer's ghost was after them for their misbehavior. Served them right, I guess, though I suppose if someday somebody wizzes on Manson's or his gang's graves, it probably wouldn't bother me as much, yet they didn't kill nearly as many people as any given war.
My own testimony: Over a decade ago, we were at Arlington Cemtery, and stopped at Robert Kennedy's grave. Which, if you've never seen it, doesn't look like a grave at all. I guess it's like a fountain or waterfall reminscent of Frank Lloyd Wright, but looks more like a concrete ashtray by Frankenstein Lloyd Wright. I mean, it had a gutter for the water like the side of the street. You can walk on this platform, and it's shady, so we took a break and my mother (then in her 60s) lit a cigarette. All of a sudden, we were accosted by some large, scary official guide who gave my mother (who was old enough to be his own) a stern lecture about smoking there being forbidden, showing respect, etc.
After he left, mother complained, it's just a grave (and not a pretty one at that), my taxes are supporting it, RFK cheated on his wife so why should anyone respect him, etc., etc. Boy, I was never so glad to leave a cemetery.
This vato is pushing the envelope on Freedom of Speech
I am sorry no matter what you think of the person you shouldn't disrespect their grave.......although that said I might make an exception to the Manson murderers...but they are the only ones...OH and my mom when she drops!
The dancing is not so bad,I dont think he would get more than a slap on the hand.
And the peeing, well he could have used a soda bottle..he's covered with a flag.. he would probulary get way with that one.
My verdict Just Another Attention seeker
I know it seems odd for a "death hag" to be noting this fella's behavior as disrespectful, but it is. Graves are memorials to the person buried below or noted on the stone... to piss on it or anything else is plain old disrespectful.
We're raising such a generation with a lack of respect, all the while these same people who are disrespectful are screaming "respect me! respect me!" just for the mere fact that they're human. We're all going to hell. Seriously.
In the meantime, let me be "disrespectful" by reading about modes of death and looking at a few pictures... no matter who it is, I'll not sneeze, fart or piss on their grave or other memorial. Even those irritating guys rapping in the drive-thru at Taco Bell about 89 cents in that damned commercial. I hate them, but I'll still hold my bladder.
when my ex husband dies and by the looks of him it shouldn't be too long...he weighed 185lbs when I left him and now he's pushing 300..cholesterol over 500 and high blood pressure...I WILL PISS AND DANCE ON HIS GRAVE! sorry if you all think it's disrespectful but that piece of shit used to beat me...so I'm pissing and getting pictures too!
is it disrespectful? well hell yeah it is...but it's also a free country and this guy probably thought he was making some kind of "Statement" who knows! I think dancing and pissing should be reserved for people you "actually know" or scum like serial killers and rapists.
You should only piss on the grave of a personal enemy. It means more that way. Random pissing or pissing for attention just cheapens the act of vengeance.
Stay in Drugs. Eat your School. Don't do Vegetables.
I am reminded of the novel, "Dance On My Grave" by Aidan Chambers (c)1982. It is a young gay love story, set in England. It affected me a great deal....I will always treasure it. On the first page:
A Life and a Death
In Four Parts
One Hundred and Seventeen Bits
Six Running Reports
and Two Press Clippings
with a few jokes
a puzzle or three
some footnotes
and a fiasco now and then
to help the story along
A promise is a promise - no matter how hard it is to keep.
"If I die first you dance on my grave,' Barry makes Hal promise. Barry's melodramatic request of his lover is fully in character with who Barry is, or who he believes he is: a fast living, fast loving, fast driving rake and seducer. Hal is the opposite: he thinks he has found in Barry his "boy with the magic beans," a bosom and eternal friend and lover.
Needless to say, the intent of the dance in this novel is entirely different from what the guy in the original posted story had in mind. To dance on the grave of someone one never knew personally....sure we've all heard of Reagan & Nixon, but I venture to guess that few of us knew them personally....and it would be highly unlikely that even if we did, before they died, they'd asked us to dance (or pee) on their graves.
Nonetheless, I completely GOT what happened in this novel...and approved. I also approved of the dying wish of one my dear friends brother, who asked that his cremains be scattered on the White House lawn....as he was dying of AIDS during the Reagan years. Sadly, his brother didn't fulfill that wish.....and has eventually succumbed to the ravages of HIV/AIDS.
I'd never desecrate the grave of anyone.....but can sum up the things that I'm feeling now with......All I want is THE CURE.....and all of my friends back.
Last edited by djdeath-hag; 05-27-2008 at 09:39 PM. Reason: clarification
Apparently Ronnie had an apartment with a view overlooking the city of Los Angeles. This of course, was pre-'Mommie' (Nancy.)
Apparently, he invited many actresses (as Doris Day admitted in her auto-biography) to check out the view.
Anybody know where this apartment was?
Last edited by phurball; 09-21-2008 at 09:54 PM. Reason: spelling
Was this his "cornholing" pad?
On February 6, 1911, Ronald Wilson Reagan was born to Nelle and John Reagan in Tampico, Illinois. He attended high school in nearby Dixon and then worked his way through Eureka College. There, he studied economics and sociology, played on the football team, and acted in school plays. Upon graduation, he became a radio sports announcer. A screen test in 1937 won him a contract in Hollywood. During the next two decades he appeared in 53 films.
From his first marriage to actress Jane Wyman, he had two children, Maureen and Michael. Maureen passed away in 2001. In 1952 he married Nancy Davis, who was also an actress, and they had two children, Patricia Ann and Ronald Prescott.
As president of the Screen Actors Guild, Reagan became embroiled in disputes over the issue of Communism in the film industry; his political views shifted from liberal to conservative. He toured the country as a television host, becoming a spokesman for conservatism. In 1966 he was elected Governor of California by a margin of a million votes; he was re-elected in 1970.
Ronald Reagan won the Republican Presidential nomination in 1980 and chose as his running mate former Texas Congressman and United Nations Ambassador George Bush. Voters troubled by inflation and by the year-long confinement of Americans in Iran swept the Republican ticket into office. Reagan won 489 electoral votes to 49 for President Jimmy Carter.
On January 20, 1981, Reagan took office. Only 69 days later he was shot by a would-be assassin, but quickly recovered and returned to duty. His grace and wit during the dangerous incident caused his popularity to soar.
Dealing skillfully with Congress, Reagan obtained legislation to stimulate economic growth, curb inflation, increase employment, and strengthen national defense. He embarked upon a course of cutting taxes and Government expenditures, refusing to deviate from it when the strengthening of defense forces led to a large deficit.
A renewal of national self-confidence by 1984 helped Reagan and Bush win a second term with an unprecedented number of electoral votes. Their victory turned away Democratic challengers Walter F. Mondale and Geraldine Ferraro.
In 1986 Reagan obtained an overhaul of the income tax code, which eliminated many deductions and exempted millions of people with low incomes. At the end of his administration, the Nation was enjoying its longest recorded period of peacetime prosperity without recession or depression.
In foreign policy, Reagan sought to achieve "peace through strength." During his two terms he increased defense spending 35 percent, but sought to improve relations with the Soviet Union. In dramatic meetings with Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev, he negotiated a treaty that would eliminate intermediate-range nuclear missiles. Reagan declared war against international terrorism, sending American bombers against Libya after evidence came out that Libya was involved in an attack on American soldiers in a West Berlin nightclub.
By ordering naval escorts in the Persian Gulf, he maintained the free flow of oil during the Iran-Iraq war. In keeping with the Reagan Doctrine, he gave support to anti-Communist insurgencies in Central America, Asia, and Africa.
Overall, the Reagan years saw a restoration of prosperity, and the goal of peace through strength seemed to be within grasp.
It's sad that the current administration flushed a lot of Ronnie's hard work down the shitter.
one of my favorite presidents...loved him!
Yea, there was something so lovable about him...he connected with a lot of people. One of our best presidents in my opinion.
"Mr. Gorbachev...Tear down this wall."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3638320/
His famous 1964 speech...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt1fYSAChxs
To tell the truth this is where I got the idea to breakdance in front of the Viper room, but there was a 274 pound bouncer there that changed my mind!
I never heard of the Richard Springer incident. That's some scary stuff considering Reagan had almost been assassinated.
Does anybody know what happened to Springer? How long was he in prison?
O'l Ronnie was ok.
Interesting about the current debate about who is qualified to run the country (USA). If you look at any of the four (Pres and VP) candidates none of them really has had any training that qualifies them to run the most powerful economy in the world. To be quite frank, until you get the top slot I suspect nobody does.
However, if California were a country, they would have the seventh largest economy in the world. O'l Ronny presided over that state for quite a while and that must have given him a taste of what it would be like to be in the big chair.
He and Thatcher were kindred spirits in that they knew that the private sector was more efficient at running state enterprises. Hayek over Keynes.
Btw, I dont quote this stuff from Wiki, think tanks or any other 'independant organization'. It is just my thinking.
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I am a sick puppy....woof woof!!!
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Carping the living shit out of the Diem. - Me!!
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I remember when the Berlin wall came down. I was pretty young and it's one of the first news stories I remember. I asked why all these people were breaking down a wall. We took a picture of a section of the Berlin wall when we went to the Ronald Reagan Library or whatever it's called in California where he's burried. I remember Nancy kissing Ronald's coffin and breaking down. That made me cry. And his funeral made me cry. He was the president when I was born so he'll always have a special place in my heart but Clinton was the first president that I was old enough to understand what he was doing and what was going on. I don't remember the first Bush's reign. Clinton's gotta be my favorite president so far. But hey, there have only been four presidents in my lifetime.
I am appalled by that dude--that is one Un-American bastard--Like them or hate them they were our Leader-- moron-
I think Reagan was an outstanding President-- my daughter is named for him and we sent them a birth announcement to them and got a nice letter back that she will have always-
Nixon- good and bad-- mixed opinion about him but still was the Leader of our country
hmmm I;m not sure what to think of this guy. Since he said he's going to try to dance on more graves than anyone maybe it's some sort of performance art? after all art doesnt have to be some great piece it just has to make you stop and think?
Why do some people get their 15 minutes of fame!! What a shameful act., dumb ass!
There's more to the truth than just the facts. ~Author Unknown
Eh--this gets an eyeroll and a "who cares" from me.
Like them or not, these two men came from humble backgrounds and wound up moving the world.
This dude is a pimple on the ass of their achievement.
As ol' Ronnie might say, "There you go again!"
rude, no matter how much you don't like them
everyone has loved ones
before Nancy's mother died RR used to send her flowers on Nancy's birthday--to thank her for Nancy.... that always tears me up...
Lets see, I can see this ass-clown making a list
1) crash the convention ,
2) sneak up on Pres Reagan from behind,
3) smash his award,
the part that gets me is where he goes 'Excuse Me President Reagan' as he strolls forward to the mike as if he was gonna address the crowd...
I understand the dude is an ass-clown. I understand that he wants publicity but for the life of me what I don't get is why bother with the "Excuse me" part after establishing your bona fide's as an ass-clown.
i still recall this one that wasn't supposed to go out over the air.
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv13ZnkpWos
That's always been one of my favorite quotes by the President. In my personal opinion, Ronald Reagan won the Cold War. I believe that the Soviets were convinced this man was not in any mood to relent in building up our armed forces and was not going to be shy in using them either.
I think that his solid re-election to a second term made them realize that the American people were solidly behind him. He just had that moral authority and conveyed that effectively. We haven't had a president who could do that since.
His farewell address...
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=gIouq2u9kUo
spot on armcast...
although maggie thatcher and the pope played a strong role.
ronald reagan was born to do two things: chew gum and kick commie ass....and he ran out of chewing gum in '63...
he was too slow to recognize the aids crisis but most of america was also.
he wasn't a homophobic (billy haines was a close friend of his) and he certainly made some political miscues.
but he was the most influential president of my lifetime.
Last edited by johnny; 09-22-2008 at 10:09 PM.
Ha ha, love that soviet quote too!
Another fave, when asked by reporters how a difficult meeting with Bishop Desmond Tutu went, Reagan responded:
"Tutu? So-so."
I miss Reagan too. When he was prez I was too busy being young and rebellious to appreciate him.
As a connoisseur of big, pomp-filled funerals, I have to say that Reagan's was definitely something the likes of which I don't expect to ever again see for a US President-very much a "royal" funeral (probably in keeping with some of the more pompous and regal posturings I recall from his two terms as implemented by Nancy). And RR actually carefully planned it all out (as do most presidents). It's the sheer drama of it that I recall (and morbidly I own a copy of it and occasionally watch it)-what other US president would EVER have the traditional English hymn "Jerusalem" sung at their funeral (albeit with altered words to fit the US setting), a decision apparently inspired because RR loved it when he heard it in "Chariots of Fire." Or the absolutely stunning music for the recessional-Glennie's themes from the film "We Were Soldiers" alternating back and forth between echoing kettle drums-sad and poignant and very moving. I hone in on the musicality of these things and like Princess Grace's funeral and the overwhelming (in all senses) use of varied music there and Diana's funeral (with Requiem and the goose-bump inducing recessional there), RR's struck me as pure theater, which made it all the more moving regardless of my personal opinions of his presidency.
I liked the setting of the funeral. Simi Valley has majestic, sweeping views of the valley and mountains, very "California"....very Reagan.
Also, as I recall, the sun was slowly setting in the West as the service went on....quite dramatic and symbolic.
The Reagan Library, where he is buried, is a fabulous destination. You get there via the scenic Ronald Reagan Freeway. It's very fun, lots of cool artifacts and displays about the Hollywood years, the presidency, his ranch, the assassination attempt, Nancy's dresses. His life really tells a unique story of America in the 20th Century. There's Air Force One, plus a hunk of the Berlin Wall. Highly enertaining and highly recommended!
Last edited by Noelle Page; 09-23-2008 at 08:27 AM.
Somehow Presidents with ouija boards and atrology charts don't make my day
Simi Valley's beautiful, great hiking.
In addition to its natural "Californian" beauty, Simi is one of the most conservative cities in America. So it really was a fitting location for the Reagan Library.
FYI ...I neither missed a boat, nor missed my pointed humor
A little warm right now, but Simi Valley remains a great place to hike